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December 12, 2015, 02:36:56 AM
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I am starting this thread to know the feasibility of having a bitcoin farm here in india. i have seen many farms in china ,most of them are really successful. i just want to know is there any big mining farms in india. if so i would like to hear from them. The main reason i started this thread is i am willing to lease my 27 acres of land for setting up the gig or join hands in setting up the farm. i just want to know the possibilities from experienced miners.
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December 12, 2015, 06:28:58 AM
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location of land? electricity cost in area?
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December 12, 2015, 06:57:27 AM
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location of land? electricity cost in area?

its in southern part of india and the cost of electricity is rs 3 per unit i guess. if i get a good project report then we can talk about that. it can be generated from solar power. it wont be an issue.
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December 15, 2015, 02:37:06 PM
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location of land? electricity cost in area?

its in southern part of india and the cost of electricity is rs 3 per unit i guess. if i get a good project report then we can talk about that. it can be generated from solar power. it wont be an issue.

sounds pretty interesting. if that is the cost of electricity, then some profit can be made.
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December 15, 2015, 04:58:00 PM
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I am in, count me... would be ready to invest in mining
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December 19, 2015, 02:14:31 AM
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I am in, count me... would be ready to invest in mining

can u enlighten me on how to count u in. can u be specific on how u want to invest

cheers
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December 29, 2015, 08:18:03 AM
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Count me in..!!
Am ready for the connections and everything set up..  Grin
as i don't have much to invest..  Cry  Grin

what connection you are talking about.  Wink


i am keeping this thread open. anyone having any plans just PM me.. cheers
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January 03, 2016, 01:02:26 AM
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Count me in..!!
Am ready for the connections and everything set up..  Grin
as i don't have much to invest..  Cry  Grin

what connection you are talking about.  Wink


i am keeping this thread open. anyone having any plans just PM me.. cheers

Ok here are some suggestions for you to consider more than anything.

Bitcoin mining is not what it was back in 2010 or during the peak trading bubble in 2013 and with the price swings and the big issue of BTC's legal status in India poses a serious threat to anyone looking to get into BTC mining.
I am going to parrot something which someone - a big time investor in BTC - told me about investing in BTC; "In bitcoin mining there is no exit strategy for investors especially big investors, the moment the price swings for the worse there is nothing else you can do other than panic sell everything. There is no way to even break even the same amount if the price swings or the gv. cracks down on the setup" - which in this mega scale they WILL.
Imagine someone setting up a huge bitcoin farm in 2013 with 1 BTC = $1000 price point in mind, they could be still waiting for a day to at least break even or have already liquidated their assets for a fraction of it's cost.

If you really however prep your acres of land for future bitcoin business then create a solar / wind power generation hub in these lands.
Maybe even create a market for the bitcoin to be used in, right now there are bunch of exchanges and investors mining bitcoin making some profit but all the while standing on the edge of a sword.. barefooted.

With your power generation hub as the backbone many more investors would want to jump into your wagon because you are not just trying to earn some extra cash by Bitcoin mining - but also helping to solve a big problem in India, i.e by improving the Power generation & related infrastructure of that area.

I hope it made sense.


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January 07, 2016, 10:12:04 AM
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apparently there is not much money in generating solar energy, unless you have govt. subsidy and on top of that have someone to sell the power to at a good price. the rate of return and duration of return do not warrant the large amount of investment required.
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January 08, 2016, 08:52:50 PM
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I am interested to collaborate in this.

Solar powered bitcoin farming sounds a good thing for india

Is your 27 acres outside city limits ?
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January 08, 2016, 11:55:17 PM
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Bitcoin Mining requires following resources - 1. miners(asic) 2.Mining equipment(cooling, rackmounts, etc) 3. energy(electricity) 4.labour(physical and sysadmins)

As you can see, mining does not require much land since units can be mounted vertically. But land is wealth nevertheless, so you can use your land by either converting it to a source of money or a source of energy.

Source of money: Simply lease out the land for anything and use the income to buy the above resources.
Source of energy: Use biomass by growing high calorific value wood per unit area like miscanthus or a biofuel crop and convert it onsite into energy. This requires much much less investment than solar or wind system and is also much much more environment friendly than solar.

All profitable large-scale mines are 1. At a cold place 2. Near a cheap private energy resource
Land being in South India is a big problem because cooling costs would be huge! Since everyone has the same mining equipment and near free electricity, the profit comes down to cooling costs.

I will highly advise you to not do this if you're motive is purely regular profit. Only do this if you feel that even if you are incurring losses for 6 months, you will still continue bcoz you believe you will still make profit due to bitcoin price rising a huge amount. That is a very big risk.

If you still want to do it, then lease out your land for best possible local application and with the money start an operation in a hill station, near a private hydroelectric project, with good internet.

(PS: There is a thread by a chinese miner who is coming to India in feb, you should talk to him)

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January 10, 2016, 09:53:31 AM
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So you are sayin ,
the temperature is the only issue here right..
what if we can achieve a temperature optimum for minin indoors will it be suitable then for mining.
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January 10, 2016, 10:51:35 AM
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So you are sayin ,
the temperature is the only issue here right..
what if we can achieve a temperature optimum for minin indoors will it be suitable then for mining.


Forgetting rain? wind? dust? If you are able to overcome these issues including changing temperatures optimum available energy for use and backup, then you're better off collaborating with NASA they could use your expertise in their next MARS mission. I'm serious. You could make much more than what you can with bitcoin / altcoin mining.

Basically having a lot of land does not have a direct relation to a profitable mining.


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January 10, 2016, 10:59:47 AM
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But hey don't get me wrong here there are hundreds of opportunities especially with international merger and acquisition agents who can best help you if you have a lot of land available just collecting 'dust'. Such deals can be very lucrative and provide a substantial boost to the economy of the country.
I don't have the money nor the connection with such people with so much available space but I do have some M&A connections who in turn have clients who are investing into startups here in India and are on the lookout for new 'land' which in states where the state govt. has some kind of extra benefits for such international projects.
So yeah if you have a lot of land and dont want to go and build a real estate project, there are surely other more new age options available.


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January 11, 2016, 01:52:25 AM
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So you are sayin ,
the temperature is the only issue here right..
what if we can achieve a temperature optimum for minin indoors will it be suitable then for mining.


Yes, temperature is not the 'only' issue but it is 'the' issue. Every farm has the same equipment and comparable electricity rate so the difference in profit essentially boils down to 2 key factors:
1. Less money spent on cooling
2. Contacts & connection with manufacturers to receive ASICs as soon as possible (when a new faster ASIC launches, even a few hours of early mining can mean a lot). <-This is why mining is called an arms race.

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January 11, 2016, 10:54:49 AM
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But hey don't get me wrong here there are hundreds of opportunities especially with international merger and acquisition agents who can best help you if you have a lot of land available just collecting 'dust'. Such deals can be very lucrative and provide a substantial boost to the economy of the country.
I don't have the money nor the connection with such people with so much available space but I do have some M&A connections who in turn have clients who are investing into startups here in India and are on the lookout for new 'land' which in states where the state govt. has some kind of extra benefits for such international projects.
So yeah if you have a lot of land and dont want to go and build a real estate project, there are surely other more new age options available.

M&A,can you provide any leads in return of of some Bitcoins.
Firstly I would not want to work with NASA or any big companies.
I Am a architect hence I am confident enough to know how to get a passive cooling done in a built form.
I need investors as I have 2 big ideas.I think we as a country need to embrace change and get out of this crab mentality of pulling other down.
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January 11, 2016, 06:25:53 PM
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I am starting this thread to know the feasibility of having a bitcoin farm here in india. i have seen many farms in china ,most of them are really successful. i just want to know is there any big mining farms in india. if so i would like to hear from them. The main reason i started this thread is i am willing to lease my 27 acres of land for setting up the gig or join hands in setting up the farm. i just want to know the possibilities from experienced miners.
1. If you really want to do mining in such a scale where 27 acres of land may be required, start with chip designing or at least sale a part of the land and co-own a fabrication lab.

2. If you just want to convert the 27 acre land into profit off bitcoin, just sale the land and buy bitcoin. Hold the coins till 2020 block halving.

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January 12, 2016, 02:55:34 AM
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But hey don't get me wrong here there are hundreds of opportunities especially with international merger and acquisition agents who can best help you if you have a lot of land available just collecting 'dust'. Such deals can be very lucrative and provide a substantial boost to the economy of the country.
I don't have the money nor the connection with such people with so much available space but I do have some M&A connections who in turn have clients who are investing into startups here in India and are on the lookout for new 'land' which in states where the state govt. has some kind of extra benefits for such international projects.
So yeah if you have a lot of land and dont want to go and build a real estate project, there are surely other more new age options available.

M&A,can you provide any leads in return of of some Bitcoins.
Firstly I would not want to work with NASA or any big companies.
I Am a architect hence I am confident enough to know how to get a passive cooling done in a built form.
I need investors as I have 2 big ideas.I think we as a country need to embrace change and get out of this crab mentality of pulling other down.


1. Are you calling me a crab?  Undecided

I am not pulling anyone down here, just stating facts, like the rest of the community members here have done, don't like the advice you get from us crabs, fine, be the salmon and end up in a bear's stomach. And if you are really lucky to make it to the end and lay your eggs, great! Now you're too old and will die from exhaustion.

2. About providing leads, sure I can, being a liaison that is part of my job, but that would mean you'd have to talk about your projects with me and I'd be approaching my contacts, once someone shows interest then you deal with them directly, and we're not talking about some btc's here, we're talking about a commission based on the entire deal amount that gets closed. What, how much, what's the process, for all that you'd have to initiate a private conversation.

A last tip though, keep in mind I am now a crab.


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January 28, 2016, 12:53:35 PM
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thanks legendster and skang and other for their input. the thing i was holding back from starting a bitcoin farm a year ago is its unstable price in the first place ,i do have some coins at my disposal . as long as there is no regulation regarding the currency the prices can be manipulated as we can see from other coins in recent weeks, i expected this a long back .its just like wall street during 1870 to the early 19th century. anyone can manipulate the price that is the reason from a financial stand point in my opinion is not a good market.
as i said i am willing to lease the property if someone out there is interested in starting something ,lets say ,be it anything. have any idea you can PM me.

i dont want to sell property to purchase coins Grin to be honest i really thing the price of bitcoin is inflated , and its really a monopoly in the hands of a few big miners who controls mining, that have to change. Wink

@ newIndia regarding chip design ,long back i even had a plan designing chips , met with some companies regarding it and i didnt hear a positive response from them ,at that time bread board design was even better  Cheesy and the price dropped just like that, so didnt bother after that.
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March 30, 2016, 03:11:19 AM
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your intiative is very good sir, we are planning to establish huge farm and run miners or solar so that roi is just  9 months for more details please visit our facebook page and contact us https://www.facebook.com/cryptohardminingindia/ we are looking for investors if interested please contact us phone number in the facebook page
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