Inside kills, outside heals

[repentance]

...so what are you doing inside, posting on a forum?

(Honestly surprised this wasn't asked in the first reply.)

He's 18.  The default assumption is that he has an iPhone (or at least a smart phone/tablet which is glued to him).

[Vod]

apostis (cell death)

Apoptosis. 

iPhone spell check, you got it.

 

[deepceleron]

http://oneplusonedirect.com/man-freezes-to-death-in-ontario-snow-storm/851739/
http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/video/midwest-storm-kills-15-east-coast-deep-arctic-deaths-wind-chill-sam-champion-12390281

The outside is not always your friend. We have had a week of sideways cold rain, which won't kill you very fast, but sure does suck.

[Buffer Overflow]

Freezing here. I'm staying in today.

[AndrewBUD]

Freezing here. I'm staying in today.

It has been cold lately.. Today is supposed to be rather mild.. about 13'C 

[DarkHyudrA]

Sry you North Hemisphere guys, 27ºC here.
Well not exactly here, in my work is always something like ~20ºC.

[AndrewBUD]

Not bad. It has been below 0'C lately... Southern Ontario Canada

[myrkul]

Sry you North Hemisphere guys, 27ºC here.
Well not exactly here, in my work is always something like ~20ºC.

Yeah, Aussie/NZ weather reports start turning into tourism ads right around October.

[repentance]

Freezing here. I'm staying in today.

I stayed in for most of last week because the temperature was nudging 40 C.  I hate El Niño years.

[SgtSpike]

Finding something you love to work on, that truly benefits the world is the trick. 

Otherwise, and for 99% of people: works sucks, and it's a scam to rob you of your energy, see: The Matrix

It's *really* sad that people equate not working with being lazy etc.  I'm guessing - American?  In actuality, the world is a mysterious and amazing place, and there isn't enough time for any of us to read any significant fraction of the great literatry works, learn a language or two, learn to draw and paint and sculpt, or play any number of instruments, or do any of the countless things you could be doing if you weren't imprisoned by your work.

The full time job prevents you from doing these things, therefore a full time job prevents you from growing and maturing as a person.  And your wife and kids would rather have you come home alive with life, vibrant, intelligant having enriched your life all day, rather than slaving away at a keyboard working for profit (paid in fiat no doubt).

OP was 100% right!  Also, some of us understand that and design our lives so our job IS outside in the fresh air and sunshine.

When you can find me a part-time job that pays the mortgage, puts food on the table, and pays for gas and other misc expenses, then I'll listen.  Otherwise... a full time job it is!

I live like no one else today so that I can live like no one else tomorrow.  And that includes working a full time job so that I can retire quickly and comfortably and have the monetary freedom to do whatever I damn well please.    I could be a bum too, but that would limit the possibilities of what I want to do/explore/see/learn in the future.

[fgervais]

Why don't you get your parents to pay for your mortgage? #danklogic

[Audriux9]

When you can find me a part-time job that pays the mortgage, puts food on the table, and pays for gas and other misc expenses, then I'll listen.  Otherwise... a full time job it is!

I live like no one else today so that I can live like no one else tomorrow.  And that includes working a full time job so that I can retire quickly and comfortably and have the monetary freedom to do whatever I damn well please.    I could be a bum too, but that would limit the possibilities of what I want to do/explore/see/learn in the future.

Just curious... Do you think you will enjoy your retirement time with "monetary freedom" as much as you would enjoy your current time, when your capabilities, desire and willingness are at the peak? 

Currently, your full time job probably limits your abilities to enjoy life, develop yourself and enrich your understanding as much as you could afford having more free time.

Personally, I think when you reach "monetary freedom", you realize that it isn't so great as you expected...

[SgtSpike]

When you can find me a part-time job that pays the mortgage, puts food on the table, and pays for gas and other misc expenses, then I'll listen.  Otherwise... a full time job it is!

I live like no one else today so that I can live like no one else tomorrow.  And that includes working a full time job so that I can retire quickly and comfortably and have the monetary freedom to do whatever I damn well please.    I could be a bum too, but that would limit the possibilities of what I want to do/explore/see/learn in the future.

Just curious... Do you think you will enjoy your retirement time with "monetary freedom" as much as you would enjoy your current time, when your capabilities, desire and willingness are at the peak? 

Currently, your full time job probably limits your abilities to enjoy life, develop yourself and enrich your understanding as much as you could afford having more free time.

Personally, I think when you reach "monetary freedom", you realize that it isn't so great as you expected...

I suppose I do not really see a way to live joblessly right now even if I wanted to, unless I wanted my family to be homeless.  So it's not really an option.

Regardless, I know that I live much happier when I am not financially stressed.  I also know that if I lived for today instead of tomorrow, I might enjoy it for a little bit, but then have to pay for it tenfold down the road.  Been there, done that already.  Now, I am focused on financial freedom.  Paying off my remaining debts as quickly as possible, saving money into investments, etc.  If I decided to enjoy myself "in my prime", I would very quickly imprison myself to working until whatever age at which social security would kick in.  Instead, I am using my prime to provide for my family and better myself in terms of employability by gaining experience, as well as continuing to set myself up for an early retirement and living stress-free with regards to my finances.

I am very happy with this choice.  I can see that you do not share the same sentiment, which is fine.  Some people like to live for today without regards for tomorrow, and I suppose they will be the ones still working a minimum wage job when they are 70 years old, waiting for the social security to finally kick in. 

[dank]

You won't have to pay ten fold if the system collapses, which it inevitably will, since money represents an I-O-U to the state. It's debt, like most of our economy. You can make something out of nothing, but it'll only exist until people stop believing in it.

[Buffer Overflow]

You won't have to pay ten fold if the system collapses, which it inevitably will, since money represents an I-O-U to the state. It's debt, like most of our economy. You can make something out of nothing, but it'll only exist until people stop believing in it.

But wealth doesn't have to be stored in money. More assets you have got if it collapses the better.

[SgtSpike]

You won't have to pay ten fold if the system collapses, which it inevitably will, since money represents an I-O-U to the state. It's debt, like most of our economy. You can make something out of nothing, but it'll only exist until people stop believing in it.

That's certainly a viable strategy to take.  I have seriously considered NOT paying down my debts beyond making minimum payments, and instead investing more, banking on some seriously high inflation in the near future.  But I suppose I would rather have the certainty of becoming debt-free instead of the uncertainty of betting on the economy.  When I am done with everything but the lower interest loans (student loans and mortgage), then I may reconsider my course of action...!

[Audriux9]

I suppose I do not really see a way to live joblessly right now even if I wanted to, unless I wanted my family to be homeless.  So it's not really an option.

Regardless, I know that I live much happier when I am not financially stressed.  I also know that if I lived for today instead of tomorrow, I might enjoy it for a little bit, but then have to pay for it tenfold down the road.  Been there, done that already.  Now, I am focused on financial freedom.  Paying off my remaining debts as quickly as possible, saving money into investments, etc.  If I decided to enjoy myself "in my prime", I would very quickly imprison myself to working until whatever age at which social security would kick in.  Instead, I am using my prime to provide for my family and better myself in terms of employability by gaining experience, as well as continuing to set myself up for an early retirement and living stress-free with regards to my finances.

I am very happy with this choice.  I can see that you do not share the same sentiment, which is fine.  Some people like to live for today without regards for tomorrow, and I suppose they will be the ones still working a minimum wage job when they are 70 years old, waiting for the social security to finally kick in.  

I see your point. But I also see how huge is money impact for you. You seem to be in a financial distress very deeply like most of the "normal" people. It also looks like you are not planning to change your values in a near future (money). It was your choice to take a mortgage, to have things, that you cannot afford now. Instead building it step by step, you have chosen to have it now, but pay higher price and have greater financial distress and liabilities.

Of course no one can blame people who have to obey the law and current financial system. You can't buy a house for your family by saving money in a pocket. But it is wrong system, that you have to take loan and then be full time slave for decades until you pay off and get a retirement.

 I thought the main idea of Bitcoin, was at least partially to escape current monetary system based on DEBT. But it is also important to notice that only people can change this. Bitcoin itself won't bring any fair system, if majority of users base their values on current "wrong" financial system.

Actually I support Dank opinion that current financial system is going to collapse anytime soon if people change their way of thinking and understanding "money and debt".

[Vod]

Actually I support Dank opinion that current financial system is going to collapse anytime soon if people change their way of thinking and understanding "money and debt".

It obviously does not take a genius to realize the US financial system cannot sustain itself without change.

[Audriux9]

Actually I support Dank opinion that current financial system is going to collapse anytime soon if people change their way of thinking and understanding "money and debt".

It obviously does not take a genius to realize the US financial system cannot sustain itself without change.

But maybe it even shouldn't sustain for the better?

[dank]

Actually I support Dank opinion that current financial system is going to collapse anytime soon if people change their way of thinking and understanding "money and debt".

It obviously does not take a genius to realize the US financial system cannot sustain itself without change.

No change can sustain it for any significant amount of time.  Let's try again, this time, without money.