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December 01, 2012, 07:37:22 PM |
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You can sell your homemade porn on clips4sale. Or stream on streamate, myfreecams, cam4btc. Good luck!
Streaming with live shows is probably your best bet. More $ to be made there, than just selling videos.
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Charlie Kelly: I'm pleading the 5th. The Attorney: I would advise you do that. Charlie Kelly: I'll take that advice under cooperation, alright? Now, let's say you and I go toe-to-toe on bird law and see who comes out the victor? The Attorney: You know, I don't think I'm going to do anything close to that and I can clearly see you know nothing about the law. 19GpqFsNGP8jS941YYZZjmCSrHwvX3QjiC
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December 01, 2012, 07:49:26 PM |
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Now I have only $18 per a day from mining, $540 per month. But I owe the banks $ 600 a month (the half of this, $300 is monthly percents; and only the half, $ 300 is reduce debt).
A 3600/10000*100=36% loan? That's not a bank, that's Mafia. If it were a bank you need to get refinanced. If you put your house as collateral you can easily reduce the rate down to 5% ($41 interest per month), given you have a clean slate. Now - this assumes that your story has an ounce of truth.
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December 01, 2012, 08:38:23 PM |
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Now I have only $18 per a day from mining, $540 per month. But I owe the banks $ 600 a month (the half of this, $300 is monthly percents; and only the half, $ 300 is reduce debt).
A 3600/10000*100=36% loan? That's not a bank, that's Mafia. If it were a bank you need to get refinanced. If you put your house as collateral you can easily reduce the rate down to 5% ($41 interest per month), given you have a clean slate. Now - this assumes that your story has an ounce of truth. Yes, loan percent is 28-38% in different banks. Russia is not USA. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Flurkmore.so%2Fimages%2F9%2F9f%2FSt.jpg&t=665&c=duZG9r1v1JLFJA) In Russia the word "government" and the word "mafia/outlaw/thief" are equal. If you live in Russia and took a loan, you will be poor for a long long time. But I made a mistake because I am the stupidest.
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Пpoкypaтypa зaпpeтилa иcпoльзoвaть кpиптoвaлюты, a тaкжe дeнeжныe cyppoгaты, зaвeдoмo пeчaтaeмыe пpecтyпникaми, т. e. pyбли. Дaёшь нaтypaльнoe xoзяйcтвo!
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December 01, 2012, 08:42:30 PM |
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You can sell your homemade porn on clips4sale. Or stream on streamate, myfreecams, cam4btc. Good luck!
Which any of these sites can I withdraw money in Russia? Thanks!
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Пpoкypaтypa зaпpeтилa иcпoльзoвaть кpиптoвaлюты, a тaкжe дeнeжныe cyppoгaты, зaвeдoмo пeчaтaeмыe пpecтyпникaми, т. e. pyбли. Дaёшь нaтypaльнoe xoзяйcтвo!
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December 01, 2012, 08:48:19 PM |
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If you live in Russia and took a loan, you will be poor for a long long time. But I made a mistake because I am the stupidest.
You know there are moral obligations and there are legal obligations... The place where I live, requesting a 36% interest on a loan per year is considered unconscionable. I advice you to find a lawyer.
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December 01, 2012, 09:00:10 PM |
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If you live in Russia and took a loan, you will be poor for a long long time. But I made a mistake because I am the stupidest.
You know there are moral obligations and there are legal obligations... The place where I live, requesting a 36% interest on a loan per year is considered unconscionable. I advice you to find a lawyer. Russian banks requesting 25-80% a loan per year. Russian lawyers is very very high price but they are useless and stupid.
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Пpoкypaтypa зaпpeтилa иcпoльзoвaть кpиптoвaлюты, a тaкжe дeнeжныe cyppoгaты, зaвeдoмo пeчaтaeмыe пpecтyпникaми, т. e. pyбли. Дaёшь нaтypaльнoe xoзяйcтвo!
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December 01, 2012, 09:11:06 PM |
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If you live in Russia and took a loan, you will be poor for a long long time. But I made a mistake because I am the stupidest.
You know there are moral obligations and there are legal obligations... The place where I live, requesting a 36% interest on a loan per year is considered unconscionable. I advice you to find a lawyer. Russian banks requesting 25-80% a loan per year. Russian lawyers is very very high price but they are useless and stupid. Then you don't have a money problem - you have a social problem. You need to find a way to resolve this without getting killed. What happens if you declare bankruptcy?
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December 01, 2012, 09:12:34 PM |
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If you live in Russia and took a loan, you will be poor for a long long time. But I made a mistake because I am the stupidest.
You know there are moral obligations and there are legal obligations... The place where I live, requesting a 36% interest on a loan per year is considered unconscionable. I advice you to find a lawyer. Russian banks requesting 25-80% a loan per year. Russian lawyers is very very high price but they are useless and stupid. Good to know my counterparts overseas are just as respected there as we are here ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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Charlie Kelly: I'm pleading the 5th. The Attorney: I would advise you do that. Charlie Kelly: I'll take that advice under cooperation, alright? Now, let's say you and I go toe-to-toe on bird law and see who comes out the victor? The Attorney: You know, I don't think I'm going to do anything close to that and I can clearly see you know nothing about the law. 19GpqFsNGP8jS941YYZZjmCSrHwvX3QjiC
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December 01, 2012, 09:19:34 PM |
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If you live in Russia and took a loan, you will be poor for a long long time. But I made a mistake because I am the stupidest.
You know there are moral obligations and there are legal obligations... The place where I live, requesting a 36% interest on a loan per year is considered unconscionable. I advice you to find a lawyer. Russian banks requesting 25-80% a loan per year. Russian lawyers is very very high price but they are useless and stupid. Then you don't have a money problem - you have a social problem. You need to find a way to resolve this without getting killed. What happens if you declare bankruptcy? In Russia there is no laws about bankruptcy individual person, it privilege of large wealthy organizations.
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Пpoкypaтypa зaпpeтилa иcпoльзoвaть кpиптoвaлюты, a тaкжe дeнeжныe cyppoгaты, зaвeдoмo пeчaтaeмыe пpecтyпникaми, т. e. pyбли. Дaёшь нaтypaльнoe xoзяйcтвo!
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December 01, 2012, 09:25:20 PM |
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In Russia there is no laws about bankruptcy individual person, it privilege of large wealthy organizations.
Unfortunately I don't know much about the existing laws in russia. But this doesn't make sense. Unless the only way to become debt free is to spent some prison time.
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December 01, 2012, 09:27:07 PM |
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In Russia there is no laws about bankruptcy individual person, it privilege of large wealthy organizations.
Unfortunately I don't know much about the existing laws in russia. But this doesn't make sense. Unless the only way to become debt free is to spent some prison time. Dont drop the soap.
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December 01, 2012, 09:47:11 PM |
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What's your hashrate? Looking at your setup (6830s? Really?), I'm guessing the US$18/day was before the reward splitting and you're about 5GH/s right now. Basically, I'd say you're about screwed. You picked cards with low resale value, so without knowing your setup it's hard to give good advice.
At this point, even with $0.05/kWh electricity you're going to be losing money after taking into account your interest payments. I would sell everything online and try to pay down the debt. Maybe you can get it to a more manageable level.
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December 01, 2012, 09:53:54 PM |
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What's your hashrate? Looking at your setup (6830s? Really?), I'm guessing the US$18/day was before the reward splitting and you're about 5GH/s right now. Basically, I'd say you're about screwed. You picked cards with low resale value, so without knowing your setup it's hard to give good advice.
At this point, even with $0.05/kWh electricity you're going to be losing money after taking into account your interest payments. I would sell everything online and try to pay down the debt. Maybe you can get it to a more manageable level.
13 Gh/sec and 8000 kW*h per month (but I steal electricity at night, 25% monthly electricity). 8000-2000=6000 kW*h Different GPU's 5xxx/6xxx/7xxx, overclocked.
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Пpoкypaтypa зaпpeтилa иcпoльзoвaть кpиптoвaлюты, a тaкжe дeнeжныe cyppoгaты, зaвeдoмo пeчaтaeмыe пpecтyпникaми, т. e. pyбли. Дaёшь нaтypaльнoe xoзяйcтвo!
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December 01, 2012, 10:08:11 PM |
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Loan's from the mafia and steals electricity to help from going under. good job, you couldn't do that here with all the crazy smart meters.
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Why aren't you posting on the Russian board. If anyone could help you out, it would be someone there. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=10.0
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December 02, 2012, 05:09:18 AM Last edit: December 02, 2012, 08:21:00 AM by Nolo |
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Just leave Russia. You talk about how bad it is there. (I've never been to Russia, but I imagine it is pretty accurate to what you are describing.) You don't have a job. You're massively in debt beyond your ability to repay. I'm sure there is some other country that would take you in that would be better.
But curious. What happens if you default on the loans? You say there isn't a form of consumer bankruptcy over there. Does that mean there is a "debtor's prison"?
That's one of the founding principles of the U.S. You can't be put in jail just because you owe someone money. (Except in the case of child support, which isn't being jailed for not paying a debt, it is being jailed for defying a court order, i.e. contempt.)
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December 02, 2012, 08:05:52 PM |
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I don't understand why if you knew all of this about loans why you would take one out.
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December 02, 2012, 08:48:01 PM |
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13 Gh/sec and 8000 kW*h per month (but I steal electricity at night, 25% monthly electricity). 8000-2000=6000 kW*h
Different GPU's 5xxx/6xxx/7xxx, overclocked.
It's a good thing you have cheap electricity, 8000kWh a month is about 11kW constant draw. 1.17MH/J is pretty terrible. Even if it was free you won't be able to pay off your debt with the setup you have now. You might only have a few more weeks before ASICs hit and you have no appreciable income.
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December 04, 2012, 02:57:28 AM |
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But curious. What happens if you default on the loans? You say there isn't a form of consumer bankruptcy over there. Does that mean there is a "debtor's prison"?
That's one of the founding principles of the U.S. You can't be put in jail just because you owe someone money. (Except in the case of child support, which isn't being jailed for not paying a debt, it is being jailed for defying a court order, i.e. contempt.)
No prison, but take away all the property and large share of official income for a long years. It kills my dream about village home and plant potatoes. All my life I'll urban poor.
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Пpoкypaтypa зaпpeтилa иcпoльзoвaть кpиптoвaлюты, a тaкжe дeнeжныe cyppoгaты, зaвeдoмo пeчaтaeмыe пpecтyпникaми, т. e. pyбли. Дaёшь нaтypaльнoe xoзяйcтвo!
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December 04, 2012, 02:58:17 AM |
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Russians don't have money.
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Пpoкypaтypa зaпpeтилa иcпoльзoвaть кpиптoвaлюты, a тaкжe дeнeжныe cyppoгaты, зaвeдoмo пeчaтaeмыe пpecтyпникaми, т. e. pyбли. Дaёшь нaтypaльнoe xoзяйcтвo!
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