Satoshidice you owe me (55.58+1.85)*12.50=$717.88 [RESOLVED]

[lightlord]

Draw starts as soon as I get my balance.
Hurry and get in the draws, and get your chance
to win 75% of a bitcoin!

Anyone that can offer insight, or information on whats exactly happening,
or advices or good tips, or any information that can help me towards
of getting my funds, or an explanation to this. Will get a ticket
into the draw of 0.75 BTC and 150 PPC. Do note
some evidence is required.

If you can offer several tips or information, you get more tickets.
Do note it has to be a reasonable effort, and not just nothing.
Also if you can invalidate the other person information,
you take there ticket away!

Now the winner will be offered a choice, 0.75 BTC and 150 PPC
or 0.75 BTC and 115 PPC Btc equivalence, if you don't want
to go through hassles of downloading client.

Tickets so far:

1) Stephen Gornick *Evidence & information.
2) Yuhfhrh *Double spent information, and insight *forfeits ticket to Stephen Gornick
3) Stephen Gornick *Different information, double spending doesn't do anything, its just double spending of double spending.
4) dooglus *20,000 BTC, graph information


Dooglus takes Number: 4   (25% Chance of winning)
Stephen gornick, 1,2,3       (75% Chance of winning)


The second post, if you scroll to the bottom, is my story on satoshidice  

I have made a bet of 45 BTC, And I have achieved a win.
I haven't gotten payed out for over 10 hours.

http://satoshidice.com/lookup.php?tx=&limit=50&min_bet=45&status=UNKNOWN

Details   2012-12-01 14:46:13   lessthan 52000   a2dde181   4e951907   1AThpQ6   UNKNOWN   45.00000000
WIN   55.57721384   1678

And I also made another bet, of multiple bets about 10 hours later,






Details   2012-12-02 00:15:18   lessthan 52000   8483446f   3faf4834   13cjE1V   PENDING   1.50000000   WIN   1.85209046   40845, I played 30 bets all from 0.0015% to 50% and then 1.5 BTC on 79%.
That was a win.

But nothing and nothing.

I contacted the admin, he didn't respond, Its been a longtime.
Site says immediately, and its not. This is the worst delay I ever had.
It has over 79 confirmations.

I tested bitzino out to confirm if its my side, and it got 1 bitcent instantly, it works perfectly.
So its satoshdice side.

From the delay, I want interest  

Satoshdice is one of the biggest transaction on the network,
and its there job to make sure everything goes right, after all
it says payout is immediate.

From going against all your terms, and this unbelievable delay.
Make my 45 BET a 50% bet and it won for 90 BTC.
After all that's pennies and nickles to how much Satoshidice has made so far.
And it goes against all terms, so where's my interest

Okay maybe that's high, but I should get a compensation, for holding my funds,
and going against your terms, and not just my funds about. I should get extra.

Besides this is the second time this delay occurred.

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[lightlord]

Me on satoshidice site
--------------------

Me: Lose
satoshidice:  

Me: Lose
satoshidice:  

Me: Lose
satoshidice:  

Me: Lose
satoshidice:  

Me: Win
satoshidice:   NO?! FU! NO PAYMENT EVER?!

Me:  

The end.....

[Arrogance]

That's pretty sad.

I'm sure they'll sort your problem out but Im not so sure about the interest.

[lightlord]

That's pretty sad.

I'm sure they'll sort your problem out but Im not so sure about the interest.

The thing is they go against there quote of Immediate payout,
and after all they are holding $717.88 Cash of my money!
That's a lot of money, and I want immediate access!
If someone holds my money, and I can not have access to it,
I should at least get interest or something, because
that time could be a time where I lend it to someone.

I lose out, and BTC can drop in value, and lets say I want to sell now.
Well I get hugely punished, I guess it goes both ways.
But The point is, if I was them, I would pay interest,
out of niceness, and compensation.

I mean they can be a complete utter jerk, and just hold my
money for 20 hours, and then pay me 100% back.
Even though its against there statement.
Because of that I should be rewarded.

Anyways I hope to get at least something,
if at all a 100% back is better then nothing!

[lightlord]

Payout is sent almost immediately (doesn't need to wait for confirmation). Super fast, easy...

Surely, they should change it to *may be extreme delay.
Now they lied, or a mistake occured. Now my compensation or interest?  
I'm not trying to sound like a jerk, but after all they are holding
$720 cash equivalence, and that's a shit ton of money.

*doesn't need to wait for confirmation*

-Okay its been 80 confirmations. So that's a lie

[Stephen Gornick]

I'm not trying to sound like a jerk,

And the first couple of times you expressed your concern, you didn't.

There seem to be extended delays at SatoshiDICE.com right now, from looking at their site:
 - http://satoshidice.com/lookup.php?tx=&limit=1000&status=ALL

If you are hoping for fast payouts, you might want to not make any new wagers until SatoshiDICE staff gets things resolved.

[lightlord]

I'm not trying to sound like a jerk,

And the first couple of times you expressed your concern, you didn't.

There seem to be extended delays at SatoshiDICE.com right now, from looking at their site:
 - http://satoshidice.com/lookup.php?tx=&limit=1000&status=ALL

If you are hoping for fast payouts, you might want to not make any new wagers until SatoshiDICE staff gets things resolved.

You are given a ticket, thanks for your info. Anymore different info's will give you more chance of winning the jackpot above.

[Yuhfhrh]

You are not the only one:
http://satoshidice.com/lookup.php?tx=&limit=1000&min_bet=10&status=UNKNOWN

I'm going to take a guess that it's just a technical problem, or part of the coins that were supposed to be your reward were double spent, so satoshidice couldn't make the payment. Some of the people have gotten a payment from satoshidice that are on that list, that have been unconfirmed for many hours, raising my suspicion. I think all you can do at this point is wait for satoshidice support.

Edit:
Example: The first transaction on the top of the list:
http://blockchain.info/tx/54a24ae9144184fa0e68c474a7f7106863a1c1a57fc77df3b162274e7b9eb9d7

Satoshidice supposedly sent the transaction many hours ago (9 hours?), and it has not been included in any blocks.

So, possibly, one of these addresses performed a double spend on satoshidice?
1MSzmVTBaaSpKDARK3VGvP8v7aCtwZ9zbw
14719bzrTyMvEPcr7ouv9R8utncL9fKJyf
1DpsR91YmHUDTtiuH1pPCuG3RqAkmg6YKB
14ChPPM8rPYJeHnw6kMVUDnNNKx1KnjYW4
18XSLnBZ8ydMUkaifU6sQBMJzmm7JvDeUp
1JmcV7G3r8k7ev2EkS84MmsvxGyhiRGP84
1HVpyjYEPwQhvRQ3dL8tGe9kiydti616sX
1HjDauL2kth6KJUz5vX198Nvp1xN1hgYRb
1PeohaRGaTF8cSzDqP1yYfzDah66xiriEQ
1L4EThM6x3Rd2PjNbs1U136FpMq4Gmo3fJ

Edit2:
The first address on the list has a ton of unconfirmed transactions to satoshidice taking place many hours ago:
http://blockchain.info/address/1MSzmVTBaaSpKDARK3VGvP8v7aCtwZ9zbw

Hold on I'm getting ahead of myself, all of these addresses belong to satoshidice.

[lightlord]

You are not the only one:
http://satoshidice.com/lookup.php?tx=&limit=1000&min_bet=10&status=UNKNOWN

I'm going to take a guess that it's just a technical problem, or part of the coins that were supposed to be your reward were double spent, so satoshidice couldn't make the payment. Some of the people have gotten a payment from satoshidice that are on that list, that have been unconfirmed for many hours, raising my suspicion. I think all you can do at this point is wait for satoshidice support.

Edit:
Example: The first transaction on the top of the list:
http://blockchain.info/tx/54a24ae9144184fa0e68c474a7f7106863a1c1a57fc77df3b162274e7b9eb9d7

Satoshidice supposedly sent the transaction many hours ago (9 hours?), and it has not been included in any blocks.

So, possibly, one of these addresses performed a double spend on satoshidice?
1MSzmVTBaaSpKDARK3VGvP8v7aCtwZ9zbw
14719bzrTyMvEPcr7ouv9R8utncL9fKJyf
1DpsR91YmHUDTtiuH1pPCuG3RqAkmg6YKB
14ChPPM8rPYJeHnw6kMVUDnNNKx1KnjYW4
18XSLnBZ8ydMUkaifU6sQBMJzmm7JvDeUp
1JmcV7G3r8k7ev2EkS84MmsvxGyhiRGP84
1HVpyjYEPwQhvRQ3dL8tGe9kiydti616sX
1HjDauL2kth6KJUz5vX198Nvp1xN1hgYRb
1PeohaRGaTF8cSzDqP1yYfzDah66xiriEQ
1L4EThM6x3Rd2PjNbs1U136FpMq4Gmo3fJ

Edit2:
The first address on the list has a ton of unconfirmed transactions to satoshidice taking place many hours ago:
http://blockchain.info/address/1MSzmVTBaaSpKDARK3VGvP8v7aCtwZ9zbw

Interesting, but I checked and I notice that from there address, they sent nothing. *on block explorer
Wouldn't it mean that they would have to send the winning, but
a double spend attack would make it that it doesn't reach my wallet?

Or am I getting it completely wrong?

And I can't provide the block explorer link because,
the site isn't loading for some reason,
And I don't remember the 79% Satoshdice address off heart,
to copy and paste the link above for you to see.

[Yuhfhrh]

Interesting, but I checked and I notice that from there address, they sent nothing.
Wouldn't it mean that they would have to send the winning, but
a double spend attack would make it that it doesn't reach my wallet?

Or am I getting it completely wrong?

Simple version of what I'm envisioning:

Several transactions were sent to satoshidice, but were double spent to other addresses. Satoshidice assumed it had those coins, and tried to send them to several people but couldn't.

So you are right, the coins could never reach your wallet in this scenario.

[lightlord]

Interesting, but I checked and I notice that from there address, they sent nothing.
Wouldn't it mean that they would have to send the winning, but
a double spend attack would make it that it doesn't reach my wallet?

Or am I getting it completely wrong?

Simple version of what I'm envisioning:

Several transactions were sent to satoshidice, but were double spent to other addresses. Satoshidice assumed it had those coins, and tried to send them to several people but couldn't.

I given you a ticket

[Yuhfhrh]

http://blockchain.info/double-spends

Shows a couple of double spends involving satoshidice, but not nearly as much as I was thinking.  I'm not sure.

[lightlord]

http://blockchain.info/double-spends

Shows a couple of double spends involving satoshidice, but not nearly as much as I was thinking.  I'm not sure.

Ouch. I guess satoshidice can't offer the instance payout features. They will have to wait 6 confirmations.
Bitparking lost 150 Bitcoins once do to this.

I just hope they didn't lost too much, to declare bankruptcy and forfeit everyone winning payments.
I notice they are doing all the little payments.

They should cancel all little payments, and give big payments 1st priority.
Alone fulfilling all little payments could cover some big payments.

Having a thousand people lose $8 is better then 20 people losing $400 I think.
I think higher should be given priority, and should be arranged like that.

[Yuhfhrh]

http://blockchain.info/double-spends

Shows a couple of double spends involving satoshidice, but not nearly as much as I was thinking.  I'm not sure.

Ouch. I guess satoshidice can't offer the instance payout features. They will have to wait 6 confirmations.
Bitparking lost 150 Bitcoins once do to this.

I just hope they didn't lost too much, to declare bankruptcy and forfeit everyone winning payments.
I notice they are doing all the little payments.

They should cancel all little payments, and give big payments 1st priority.
Alone fulfilling all little payments could cover some big payments.

Having a thousand people lose $8 is better then 20 people losing $400 I think.
I think higher should be given priority, and should be arranged like that.

They have plenty of money to cover these losses, if they are in fact actual losses. I haven't marked off technical problem yet lol

[Stephen Gornick]

I just hope they didn't lost too much, to declare bankruptcy and forfeit everyone winning payments.
I notice they are doing all the little payments.

FFS, Would you just relax.

This is not the first time this happened.  Every transaction on SatoshiDICE that is a WIN eventually gets paid.    This is provable using the blockchain.

Your transaction confirmed.  It shows WIN.  You will get paid, just not right now apparently for whatever reason.
 - http://satoshidice.com/full.php?tx=a2dde18101ec3485fecb0d7b717371e1a61ff2ae2dff96002cf3683bde545b30

Incidentally, wagers that are double spends don't cost SatoshiDICE a thing, because even if they sent a payout for the WIN already the payout will not confirm either as it too will be a double spend.  And it is then no different from having never made a payout at all.

When these situations happen with SatoshiDICE, they can take a day or two to resolve.

There's nothing you can do but wait.

[Yuhfhrh]

I just hope they didn't lost too much, to declare bankruptcy and forfeit everyone winning payments.
I notice they are doing all the little payments.

FFS, Would you just relax.

This is not the first time this happened.  Every transaction on SatoshiDICE that is a WIN eventually gets paid.    This is provable using the blockchain.

Your transaction confirmed.  It shows WIN.  You will get paid, just not right now apparently for whatever reason.

 - http://satoshidice.com/full.php?tx=a2dde18101ec3485fecb0d7b717371e1a61ff2ae2dff96002cf3683bde545b30

Incidentally, double spends don't cost SatoshiDICE a thing, because even if they paid out the payout will not confirm either as it too will be a double spend.

When these situations happen with SatoshiDICE, they can take a day or two to resolve.

There's nothing you can do but wait.

This is the best answer.

[lightlord]

I just hope they didn't lost too much, to declare bankruptcy and forfeit everyone winning payments.
I notice they are doing all the little payments.

FFS, Would you just relax.

This is not the first time this happened.  Every transaction on SatoshiDICE that is a WIN eventually gets paid.    This is provable using the blockchain.

Your transaction confirmed.  It shows WIN.  You will get paid, just not right now apparently for whatever reason.

 - http://satoshidice.com/full.php?tx=a2dde18101ec3485fecb0d7b717371e1a61ff2ae2dff96002cf3683bde545b30

Incidentally, double spends don't cost SatoshiDICE a thing, because even if they paid out the payout will not confirm either as it too will be a double spend.

When these situations happen with SatoshiDICE, they can take a day or two to resolve.

There's nothing you can do but wait.

This is the best answer.

I know I am extremely hype, but if it was 1 bitcoin I wouldn't be reacting at all.
Its just that $720 doesn't grow on trees, and ironically I am suppose to pay
someone 26.5 BTC for a 7970 graphic card.

Now you may ask why I bet in the first place. I had amount of 45 BTC.
And I wanted to play with 4.5 BTC on 79% Odds, but after I clicked submitted,
I realize it was actually in fact 45 BTC.

*I was also confirming a address, and he responded a few hours later,
it was 4am in the morning, and then I decided to do this little bet for fun.
But made a massive insane error.

God damn I am lucky it was a WON. Most careless or biggest **** error I ever made.
I guess worst comes to worse I would go to an Canadian exchange and take out another $350,
and wait for another 5-7 days if I had lost.

Ironically even after the idiocy error, it rewarded me in the end with a $120 UP.

Ever since this happened I been triple checking or even quadruple checking that I don't make a mistake again.

[🏰 TradeFortress 🏰]

lightlord,

you will get your $717.88 in 72 hours.

I will even bet 18.572 bitcoins. If accept and get your $717, you send me 18.572 btc. If not, I give you my entire wallet in 72hrs.

The countdown starts when you accept.

[Stephen Gornick]

lightlord,

you will get your $717.88 in 72 hours.

I will even bet 18.572 bitcoins. If accept and get your $717, you send me 18.572 btc. If not, I give you my entire wallet in 72hrs.

The countdown starts when you accept.

Heh.   Don't do it. lightlord or at least ask for like 100:1 odds.

[Edit:  TradeFortress ... at least make it look somehow fair.  "If not, I give you my entire wallet in 72hrs."]

[lightlord]

^^ Updated my post, 2nd closest to bottom.