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December 02, 2012, 08:53:48 PM |
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Watch them, folks, as they fart into the wind, defending organized, systematic, theft.
Leave the housing development run by the home owner's association that you pay dues to, and go live in another housing development then. The nation you live in was here before you, and it doesn't need you.
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myrkul
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December 02, 2012, 09:00:25 PM |
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panda1
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December 02, 2012, 09:01:39 PM |
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The opposite would be "I got you, bro."
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FirstAscent
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December 02, 2012, 09:02:02 PM |
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myrkul, you're a whiner.
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myrkul
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December 02, 2012, 09:03:45 PM |
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myrkul, you're a whiner.
It's spelled "winner."
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FirstAscent
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December 02, 2012, 09:04:45 PM |
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myrkul, you're a whiner.
It's spelled "winner." Then act like one.
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December 02, 2012, 09:09:31 PM |
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myrkul, you're a whiner.
It's spelled "winner." "Winner", he whispers to himself in the mirror. "WINNER!", he said again, noticing how much BETTER he looks than other people. The children playing outside upset him for a second, one screaming "I WON! I WON!" after a footrace. He shuffled across the room, trying not to knock over anything as he made it to the window. "WINNER!", he screamed at the children. "WINNER WINNER WINNER WINNER", he continued to them as they ran away while pounding himself on the chest. "They don't understand", he thought. "I doubt a single child has as much gold as I", he mused as his eyes were drawn back to the mirror. "WINNER!", he smirked.
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myrkul
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December 02, 2012, 09:55:17 PM |
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December 02, 2012, 09:58:18 PM |
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"Love you, have this."
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December 02, 2012, 10:06:56 PM |
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Grasshoppers play a role in the ecosystem. Balance is important. Your fable is cute, but ignores the necessity of fully understanding the ecosystem that scientific study reveals. Likewise, your ideas lack a solid background in ecology, environment, human behavior, etc. AnCap is also a fable.
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myrkul
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December 02, 2012, 10:46:41 PM |
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Grasshoppers play a role in the ecosystem. Balance is important. Your fable is cute, but ignores the necessity of fully understanding the ecosystem that scientific study reveals. Oh, Jesus, are you an idiot.
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December 02, 2012, 11:11:12 PM |
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Grasshoppers play a role in the ecosystem. Balance is important. Your fable is cute, but ignores the necessity of fully understanding the ecosystem that scientific study reveals. Likewise, your ideas lack a solid background in ecology, environment, human behavior, etc. AnCap is also a fable. Meh, I think it's a valid tale for kids encouraging them not to be lazy, and to save for a rainy day, etc. It doesn't seem to fit the antisocial vibe of the "FY,GM" thing though. To make it more accurate, you'd have to change the story a little bit: Both the grasshopper and the ant spend all Summer collecting food for the winter. Nobody does any singing. When winter arrives, by a freak occurrence the grasshopper's larder gets flooded and he eventually runs short. So he goes to the ant to see if he has any spare food. The ant replies (in Eric Cartman's voice) "let me get this straight, so you spent all summer singing and doing nothing, while I toiled in the hot fucking sun, and now you want some of my spare food bitch? You green ones are all the same!" "But without the grasshoppers there will be a missing parts of the local ecology that will indirectly effect you!", the grasshopper said. "The death of any creatures of the forest effects everything in the forest!". "We are totally independent of the natural world and do not need any help, nor will we be forced to contribute outside of our own hive. We don't believe in the interconnectivity of all things, because that leads to systematic theft of everything we hold dear. Greenie, you need to have secured your holdings more completely with insurance and better security." said the ant, which was entirely oblivious to the tenuous nature of their hive in the grand scheme of things.
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myrkul
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December 02, 2012, 11:19:08 PM |
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"Love you, have this."
Lol, good answer. Not sure how opposite the first parts are but kinda tricky to argue on a public forum That is a good answer, and is the opposite of "Fuck you, got mine," as intended. However, a good opposite of "Fuck you, got mine," as presented, would be "Fuck you, gimme."
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Rassah (OP)
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December 03, 2012, 05:34:17 AM |
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Looks like there are three options then:
1) Fuck you, got mine. 2) Love you, here's some. 3) Fuck you, gimme.
I doubt any of them are applied fairly though. Especially the first one.
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December 03, 2012, 06:54:05 AM |
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Kidney theft at gunpoint is a FY,GM action yes. You won't find a high instance of that in a socialism though
Um...how about China, and its habit of harvesting organs from prisoners? (Not just kidneys, either, but other, rather more vital organs.)
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December 03, 2012, 07:59:21 AM |
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Kidney theft at gunpoint is a FY,GM action yes. You won't find a high instance of that in a socialism though
Um...how about China, and its habit of harvesting organs from prisoners? (Not just kidneys, either, but other, rather more vital organs.) You realize that communism and socialism are different things, right?
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December 03, 2012, 02:36:50 PM |
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I've heard the term, "fuck you, got mine," a few times, pretty much exclusively used in a derogatory way. From what I understand, it is supposed to describe an individual who is of the opinion that as long as they have attained the item they strove to acquire, they don't care if someone else, who may really need the item as well, does not have it. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
So, my question is, what is the opposite of "Fuck you, got mine?" Is it something like, "I didn't do shit, give me yours?" I'm trying to understand the meaning behind the derogatory connotation. Is it really just the disagreement between the "I worked my ass off for it, I deserve it" class, and the "We're all in this together and we should all share equally" class?
Actually I have seen this in a clothing line. It is called DGK ("Dirty Ghetto Kids" - don't get me started on the name). One of their popular shirts I see says "What Recession?" on the front and "Gots Mine" on the back. Here is a link to Images. It represents is sort of live for today, self-centered and narcissistic attitude and is becoming more prevalent these days. I had an ex-friend I knew that wore this stuff and to be honest, it really summed up his outlook and that is just not what I am all about, so we fell out. I thought this fit with the theme of this post. Dalkore
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December 03, 2012, 02:49:35 PM Last edit: December 03, 2012, 04:22:03 PM by Dalkore |
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Watch them, folks, as they fart into the wind, defending organized, systematic, theft.
Your really out of sorts in this thread Myrkul. There are times when the whole's needs is actually greater than the individual. I know this may sound like heresy to you. Yes you will die some day, like me and other around us. But the human species will go on and if you rightfully and lawfully came into a resource that had a greater good than you sitting on it and profiting, we may just come take it, only by force if you did not voluntary release it and take some form of compensation. That is just the world we live in and it over it, it could happen to any of us. FYI - These "folks" you talk about are not very many, your a fringe group in a sense. Most people would not want to live in such a self-interested society and god-forbid if we ever get to a point where we accepted your point of view completely. I am not saying we are all equal or we should share everything, but we should never go to ANY extremes no matter what direction. You find balance.
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December 03, 2012, 03:09:41 PM |
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The reason this derogatory statement buried me is because it seems to be quite often misapplied to Radians and AnCaps. I can see it applying to the casting off by yourself in a lifeboat scenario. Another couple of examples where FY,GM applies:
Illegal immigrant policies (fuck your lack of jobs in your country. I got mine, and you ain't taking it) Regulations against shipping jobs overseas (same as above) Tariffs (taxes) on imports like steel and sugar (fuck your resources, production, and need to trade for food, got mine here) Minimum wage laws (There is only so much revenue from this company to spread around, so fuck you, employee whom the company can no longer afford, rest of us got our $7.25) Continued support for farm subsidies (fuck your family farm, got my gov check to undermine your prices with) Continued support for highway and road construction (fuck your struggling railways, got my trucking and roads)
These are things that both of the popular political spectrums are guilty of (Dems and Repubs). They are also all things that libertarians like Randians and AnCaps, are against. So I think a term that would fit libertarians best would be "Got mine, go get yours" I don't think I've met a libertarian who would actually prevent someone who doesn't have something from getting it, as long as they went for it in a fair way, through their own work. So I'm not sure the "fuck you" applies. Rand was certainly all for everyone getting everything they wanted, as long as they worked for it, and used their heads instead of relying on bailouts.
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December 03, 2012, 03:13:37 PM |
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and if you rightfully and lawfully came into a resource that had a great good than you sitting on it and profiting
The only way he could profit from that resource is by selling it to other people, for their greater good. You can't profit from a resource by sitting on it.
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