ASICs for EU-market

[Peter Jelinek]

Dear miners from EU, I want to ask you you something. For now we can buy ASICs only from US-based companies like BTFL, AVALON and BTCFPGA.
That means that we must pay import taxes(7%), VAT(depends on country, but its 15%+) and international shipping costs.

Goods imported from non-member states are subject to VAT at the rate applicable in the member state into which the goods
are imported. VAT is generally charged at the border, at the same time as customs duty and using the price determined by customs.

for example :
Base price of Single SC is €1,081 (PayPal conversion rate)
+ Import taxes 7%
+ VAT ... depends on country, we have 20%
+ International Shipping €73
-------
€1446

Lets say that I am able to import this goods for much less. You dont need to give me money in advance.
I am just curious, if it will be some demand if I will sell them inside in EU for price €100-€150 lover than final price for EU-buyer.
Len me know, or make an offer.


NEXT SHIPPMENT DETAILS :

Next cargo will leave the USA on ~20th February, estimated time of goods arrival to klients is end of March.

[Mapuo]

In EU we dont pay any ''+ Import taxes" for Computer Peripherals, only VAT(20% for me in Bulgaria).

So,

Base price of Single SC is €1012
Without Import taxes
International Priority Shipping €68
VAT 20% from €1080(€1012+€68) is €216

The final price is €1296.

All with PayPal, but without their conversion rate.

[Peter Jelinek]

No customs duty for Computer Peripherals in EU ? Are you sure ?

So still its almost €300 difference for one piece 

Ok, so lets say my price will be €150 down from €1296 ... I earn €150, client saves €150... that's fair.
I' am able to buy hardware in US and take it with "my" plane into the EU ... i have a lot of free space, i know the waters and i am traveling a lot.

Discounts for bulk orders are welcome.

So if someone want to do business, let me know.

[Easy2Mine]

Any proof of "your" plane?
We have to be cautious, just in case.

[Kuma]

Yeah, from US you should pay just the VAT in EU. You could check that at TARIC

[Mapuo]

No customs duty for Computer Peripherals in EU ? Are you sure ?

So still its almost €300 difference for one piece 

Ok, so lets say my price will be €150 down from €1296 ... I earn €150, client saves €150... that's fair.
I' am able to buy hardware in US and take it with "my" plane into the EU ... i have a lot of free space, i know the waters and i am traveling a lot.

Discounts for bulk orders are welcome.

So if someone want to do business, let me know.

No, thanks. Keep flying with "your" plane.

[Bogart]

Avalon will be shipping from China.

[Peter Jelinek]

Any proof of "your" plane?
We have to be cautious, just in case.

Easy2Mine, what kind of proof do you want? Ofcourse, its not my plane, i am just an employee with this possibility.
As I said, i don't want any money in advance, so i cant scam anyone.Don't worry... just looking for business partners.
I think the best proof will be the first satisfied clients from BitcoinTalk.

So, what do you do when you land in the EU and your plane is inspected by customs?
If you're able to get around that bit, then why don't you just fill the plane with cocaine and screw the ASICs?

Yes I am able to get around that, but no with drugs

WHY so skeptic

[Peter Jelinek]

WHY so skeptic

Well, mainly because you're talking to someone who's been convicted of attempting to evade €30,000 in import taxes. I've got years of experience in this area, it usually doesn't go well in the end, customs officers are really really smart, you'd be very surprised, I was

If you are able to get a full plane of electronics into the EU without a customs inspection, then well done dude, my advice would be don't bother with the ASICs & move onto bringing in high profit electronics from China and wholesale them, then enjoy your millions.

I am doing this for years, never had problem ... €30 000 ... you should know me earlier as an employee i don't have whole plane for myself. And I am working only on US-EU lines... never on China-EU. Not looking for millions either, but thank you for advice

[monstrs]

So what you say, maybe you are a pilot?

[Mapuo]

I don't think so.

As I said, i don't want any money in advance, so i cant scam anyone

He just want some free ASICs.

[Peter Jelinek]

I don't think so.

As I said, i don't want any money in advance, so i cant scam anyone

He just want some free ASICs.

How free??? I must pay for them with my money, if i want buy them, you don't think so?

I want to help community so please dont act like ... thank you. 

[Mapuo]

If you want to bye some asics, and ship them to my door without taxes, you're welcome.

[nelisky]

If you are thinking about turning this ability of yours into a BTC business, how about you providing carrier service for items sold here and in bitcoin auctions between the two sides of the pond? How much weight can you carry?

I mean, many times have I given up on a deal because it would be expensive to ship (heavy or bulky) and I'd have VAT on my side too (21%). If you would charge 5~10% over the sale price that would be much cheaper for me and a good deal for you.

There's obviously the issue of trust and once on the EU side you'd have to ship the item so I could receive it, so not straight forward. Just an idea really... (I would love it if you could carry a rack mountable server for me ).

[Peter Jelinek]

If you want to bye some asics, and ship them to my door without taxes, you're welcome.

Great ! This is what I want to hear

How much weight can you carry?

weight or size isn't a problem

If you would charge 5~10% over the sale price that would be much cheaper for me and a good deal for you.
There's obviously the issue of trust and once on the EU side you'd have to ship the item so I could receive it, so not straight forward. Just an idea really... (I would love it if you could carry a rack mountable server for me ).

Usually i take 10% provision from product price, but for expensive goods like servers we can negotiate about price. Yes about trust ... we could use some escrow service (https://escrow.com/), or if my capital allows it I can buy it from my own. And you will pay me, after you receive it. Write me more details into PM please.

[Mapuo]

I mean with your order number(not mine), and payment on my door(with ASIC in my hand). If you can make this - wellcome.

[AniceInovation]

... or if my capital allows it I can buy it from my own. And you will pay me, after you receive it.

If you are really willing to ship before getting paid, i would take 2 mini SCs.

[Peter Jelinek]

I mean with your order number(not mine), and payment on my door(with ASIC in my hand). If you can make this - wellcome.

If you are really willing to ship before getting paid, i would take 2 mini SCs.

Sure... no problem guys. Now we just need to wait for the date when the ASICs will be on market

Meanwhile i can get you other available electronics goods, if anyone needs something, just write, all the orders are welcome.

[2GOOD]

I mean with your order number(not mine), and payment on my door(with ASIC in my hand). If you can make this - wellcome.

If you are really willing to ship before getting paid, i would take 2 mini SCs.

Sure... no problem guys. Now we just need to wait for the date when the ASICs will be on market

Meanwhile i can get you other available electronics goods, if anyone needs something, just write, all the orders are welcome.

Crazy statement. I'll be totally in, how often do you travel?

[AniceInovation]

I mean with your order number(not mine), and payment on my door(with ASIC in my hand). If you can make this - wellcome.

If you are really willing to ship before getting paid, i would take 2 mini SCs.

Sure... no problem guys. Now we just need to wait for the date when the ASICs will be on market

Meanwhile i can get you other available electronics goods, if anyone needs something, just write, all the orders are welcome.

Crazy statement. I'll be totally in, how often do you travel?

Lol crazy indeed, i would be in for a nexus 4 too, at least