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December 13, 2015, 10:34:24 PM
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Who watches his addresses??? How will we know when if/when any are moved?

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December 13, 2015, 10:35:02 PM
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It's none of our business.
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December 13, 2015, 10:40:16 PM
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Thats a bit stalkerish in my opinion satoshi moves his btc when he want he wants to remain anonymous and so he is.
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December 13, 2015, 10:42:43 PM
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Who watches his addresses??? How will we know when if/when any are moved?

It's easy to know when they are moved, just look it up on blockchain.info or whatever blockchain browser of your choice. What's "funny" is, it seems the early addresses may be prone to quantum attacks (not post 2012 addresses) so even if some day the coins move, we will not know if someone made a successful quantum attack on satoshi's keys, or is satoshi him/her/itself moving coins.
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December 13, 2015, 10:42:52 PM
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News sites do keep an eye on his alleged Bitcoin addresses. If they spot an output, then these sites will make a large article about it, with a click bait title such as "Satoshi is active again!!" while they have no proof that it is actually Satoshi who is using that address.
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December 13, 2015, 10:43:30 PM
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Who watches his addresses??? How will we know when if/when any are moved?

Strange question for the hero status. You can check on the blockchain

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December 13, 2015, 10:47:20 PM
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Who watches his addresses??? How will we know when if/when any are moved?

in january 2009, day one of bitcoin. there was satoshi, hal finney and atleast 1 other person mining. so even if funds from day 1 moved. its still only atmost 33% chance it was satoshi.
under 33% proves nothing

withing days weeks more people mined. so the odds of an address mined on those days becomes less and less.
by december 2009 the odds were well under 5% that an address holding funds mined in december belonged to satoshi

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December 13, 2015, 11:04:13 PM
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It's none of our business.

That doesn't make the question invalid.

It's out there, it's a point of interest, people are going to ask these questions.
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December 13, 2015, 11:11:30 PM
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Who watches his addresses??? How will we know when if/when any are moved?

You don't need to watch them, you'll know when the market reacts. Wink
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December 13, 2015, 11:58:13 PM
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I'm sure he knows what addresses of his are being watched. If he moves anything from those accounts, there will likely be a very good reason other than him needing money. He could very well have some from later mining that no one knows belong to him.

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Who watches his addresses??? How will we know when if/when any are moved?

in january 2009, day one of bitcoin. there was satoshi, hal finney and atleast 1 other person mining. so even if funds from day 1 moved. its still only atmost 33% chance it was satoshi.
under 33% proves nothing

withing days weeks more people mined. so the odds of an address mined on those days becomes less and less.
by december 2009 the odds were well under 5% that an address holding funds mined in december belonged to satoshi

are you sure, i was aware that at the beginning there was only satoshi, then a bunch of other joined in 2010, especially in the summer

but i doubt int he first day of mining there was another one besides satoshi
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December 14, 2015, 11:28:37 AM
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If you look at alot of the early addresses none of them have any movement at all they still have the orignially generated coins siting at the address.  so either the owner of the dosnt need them, has forgotten the priv keys or is dead........ Huh

i havnt checked them all but it seems that even right up to block 200 the bitcoin is all still siting in the receiving wallets untouched.
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December 14, 2015, 12:17:40 PM
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I'm sure that this address which hold the first mined block reward is belong to satoshi 1A1zP1eP5QGefi2DMPTfTL5SLmv7DivfNa


But as there is no spent transaction on it , you can not track it
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December 14, 2015, 10:52:39 PM
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Who watches his addresses??? How will we know when if/when any are moved?

I bet there are thousands of people that watch his addresses and they would know in a matter of minutes if coins are being moved!

You have services that send you emails when coins are moved from certain addresses. Even you can make an alert with Satoshi's addresses and be one of the first to know when and if ever he is to move any of his coins!
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December 14, 2015, 10:58:27 PM
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I'm a bit confused.  How was the first block mined?  Isn't mining the process of confirming transactions?  Therefore, if there's no transactions, there can't be a way to mine.  So how did the first one come into existence?
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December 14, 2015, 11:04:11 PM
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If you check this post of satoshi: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=43.msg249#msg249
You can see there were only ~10 miners till mid 2010.
So most of the first blocks were found buy him. But you can't be sure.
You can be sure only for the first block.
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December 14, 2015, 11:16:54 PM
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I'm a bit confused.  How was the first block mined?  Isn't mining the process of confirming transactions?  Therefore, if there's no transactions, there can't be a way to mine.  So how did the first one come into existence?

The first block was not actually "mined".
The 50btc associated with the "genesis block" is non-spendable.
Satoshi "found" the first block, but couldn't collect the first 50btc "from" it.

You do not need to add "transactions for confirmation" when you "find" a block, it is customary though. (Some miners do not, sometimes.)
"Mining" is the combination of "finding the nonce" and then , if you wish, adding "pending transactions" into a block.

At one time, Miners were called "generators", I believe. The name "Miners" came years later.

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December 14, 2015, 11:21:33 PM
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I'm a bit confused.  How was the first block mined?  Isn't mining the process of confirming transactions?  Therefore, if there's no transactions, there can't be a way to mine.  So how did the first one come into existence?

The first block basically was set to not payout it had to be. what else would you expect....Huh
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December 14, 2015, 11:55:26 PM
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So then the first blocks would never move, since they can't be redeemed. But then how do people arrive at the conclusion that Satoshi would have access to any of the early bitcoins?  Maybe he just created it and never mined at all.
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December 15, 2015, 12:13:52 AM
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So then the first blocks would never move, since they can't be redeemed. But then how do people arrive at the conclusion that Satoshi would have access to any of the early bitcoins?  Maybe he just created it and never mined at all.

*block.  

Why would one not support the thing they created.  The odds that satoshi did not attempt to solve hashes are 1 and 1.7 X 10 ^ 77

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