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December 06, 2012, 03:43:09 AM
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Quote from: Rassah link=topic=128840.msg1380011#msg1380011

I suspect almost no one else on this board does, either, and I only brought up the "Mobos don't require it" point because too many people seem to be so confident in their "BFL required FCC/UL certification!" claims.

If you recall, the BFL rep was the one who brought it up along with someone else. Then, Tom got agitated about it. BFL rep said they had sent "something" to the lab about two weeks at that point. But beyond that nothing else was said.
No, that is not true. It was forum member MeSarah that started the FCC questions in the bctfpga thread. Much after everyone here jumping on him, the "BFL rep" asked, when the smoke was cleared a bit, "well Tom, how about that FCC regulation?"
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=79637.msg1308803#msg1308803

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December 06, 2012, 04:09:20 AM
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Quote from: Rassah link=topic=128840.msg1380011#msg1380011

I suspect almost no one else on this board does, either, and I only brought up the "Mobos don't require it" point because too many people seem to be so confident in their "BFL required FCC/UL certification!" claims.

If you recall, the BFL rep was the one who brought it up along with someone else. Then, Tom got agitated about it. BFL rep said they had sent "something" to the lab about two weeks at that point. But beyond that nothing else was said.

Maybe they were bragging, like they were about their October release dates? Or just submitted their designs (the computer ones) to check if everything will be ok? Just totally speculating here.
If by "bragging" you mean push the idea of fines as well as inform Tom about it. Then, Yeah, pretty much.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=79637.msg1313908#msg1313908

You can read about it somewhere around these two links (plus or minus several days of messages)

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=119351.msg1314335#msg1314335

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Keep in mind the FCC conversation happened in several threads at that time.
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December 06, 2012, 04:13:43 AM
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Quote from: Rassah link=topic=128840.msg1380011#msg1380011

I suspect almost no one else on this board does, either, and I only brought up the "Mobos don't require it" point because too many people seem to be so confident in their "BFL required FCC/UL certification!" claims.

If you recall, the BFL rep was the one who brought it up along with someone else. Then, Tom got agitated about it. BFL rep said they had sent "something" to the lab about two weeks at that point. But beyond that nothing else was said.
No, that is not true. It was forum member MeSarah that started the FCC questions in the bctfpga thread. Much after everyone here jumping on him, the "BFL rep" asked, when the smoke was cleared a bit, "well Tom, how about that FCC regulation?"
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=79637.msg1308803#msg1308803
Thats exactly what I said.
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December 06, 2012, 04:23:55 AM
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Quote from: Rassah link=topic=128840.msg1380011#msg1380011

I suspect almost no one else on this board does, either, and I only brought up the "Mobos don't require it" point because too many people seem to be so confident in their "BFL required FCC/UL certification!" claims.

If you recall, the BFL rep was the one who brought it up along with someone else. Then, Tom got agitated about it. BFL rep said they had sent "something" to the lab about two weeks at that point. But beyond that nothing else was said.
No, that is not true. It was forum member MeSarah that started the FCC questions in the bctfpga thread. Much after everyone here jumping on him, the "BFL rep" asked, when the smoke was cleared a bit, "well Tom, how about that FCC regulation?"
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=79637.msg1308803#msg1308803
Thats exactly what I said.
No it is not, the "BFL-rep" did not bring it up. MeSarah brought it up. "BFL-rep" poked fun at it.

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December 06, 2012, 05:56:01 AM
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When is the Jalapeno getting FCC approval?

Maybe two weeks? We are waiting for the test lab to issue the test report.

With the bump in power requirements on the MR and the new screen, we had to make changes, although the new screen is already certified.  We are doing all the devices at once, since they all share the same board.


I just finished looking at all the images on the FCC site for the past six months, scanning the list of 500 at a time put in alphabetical order and check every Kansas, Missouri and France submission, along with all those from China that were not a known brand, plus over a 100 from Hong Kong and Taiwan when the name of the company was foreign to me. Nada!

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December 06, 2012, 06:20:01 AM
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When is the Jalapeno getting FCC approval?

Maybe two weeks? We are waiting for the test lab to issue the test report.

With the bump in power requirements on the MR and the new screen, we had to make changes, although the new screen is already certified.  We are doing all the devices at once, since they all share the same board.


I just finished looking at all the images on the FCC site for the past six months, scanning the list of 500 at a time put in alphabetical order and check every Kansas, Missouri and France submission, along with all those from China that were not a known brand, plus over a 100 from Hong Kong and Taiwan when the name of the company was foreign to me. Nada!

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hehe.
it means someone is lying here.
either you, or them.

but you already give the proof...sooo..

not really a surprise there.

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December 06, 2012, 02:03:37 PM
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Although that is not my post you are quoting (the large letter-type is reeses'), may I state that I said "your Avalon won't have one". I did read your future batches/products will, well done Sir.

Umm, bro, that is your post. The only thing I did was bold and put a bigger font on your unedited statement.... unless I'm confused and you and Reeses are hanging our IRL?Huh

How do they all expect to ship those products without the certification? Only time will tell.
What do you care for an FCC certificate, your Avalon won't have one? Gonna refuse it now?
ps clock buffers are used to flatten out spikes in the rise and fall of signals, so higher frequencies of those signals can be used to improve performance, as in, higher clock rates. Not to reduce noise of the device if it would produce it. But you already knew that, didn't you?

remember what happened with that other FCC compliance question? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=122477.0

Wait, I did what to whom in their what?
I already corrected that 1 post later.

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December 06, 2012, 04:46:25 PM
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Fine, I'll post the link. Go here http://stason.org/TULARC/pc/pc_hardware_faq/8_16_What_does_FCC_approval_cover_and_what_needs_to_be_approved.html
Scroll down about 1/4th of the way to the heading Motherboards, and read for yourselves.
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December 07, 2012, 05:37:35 AM
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There are limitations on the colors of switches and lamps, i.e. no red LEDs (which indicate danger).

Danger Will Robinson!


The agency will attempt to set the unit on fire.

Cheesy

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December 07, 2012, 08:20:04 AM
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There are limitations on the colors of switches and lamps, i.e. no red LEDs (which indicate danger).

Danger Will Robinson!

The agency will attempt to set the unit on fire.

Cheesy

Give BFL some credit! There's no way they're going to put a red light of any nature on any of their products because green is the way to go.
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December 07, 2012, 08:30:46 AM
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There are limitations on the colors of switches and lamps, i.e. no red LEDs (which indicate danger).

Danger Will Robinson!

The agency will attempt to set the unit on fire.

Cheesy

Give BFL some credit! There's no way they're going to put a red light of any nature on any of their products because green is the way to go.

I heard thier cumming out with the pornominer.......it has nothing BUTT red lights  Cheesy

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December 07, 2012, 08:40:49 AM
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I just finished scanning again the FCC site, this time doing the rest of the N/A states (other countries/pass 6 months) and still didn't find a single item resembling a mining rig from any of the four ASIC concerns, but I did get to view a many neat products.

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December 07, 2012, 06:37:34 PM
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I just finished scanning again the FCC site, this time doing the rest of the N/A states (other countries/pass 6 months) and still didn't find a single item resembling a mining rig from any of the four ASIC concerns, but I did get to view a many neat products.

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Why are you looking for ASICs on FCC's site?
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December 07, 2012, 07:09:18 PM
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Why are you looking for ASICs on FCC's site?

When is the Jalapeno getting FCC approval?

Maybe two weeks? We are waiting for the test lab to issue the test report.

With the bump in power requirements on the MR and the new screen, we had to make changes, although the new screen is already certified.  We are doing all the devices at once, since they all share the same board.

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December 07, 2012, 08:51:03 PM
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Huh, missed that, thanks.
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December 08, 2012, 12:09:00 AM
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I just finished scanning again the FCC site, this time doing the rest of the N/A states (other countries/pass 6 months) and still didn't find a single item resembling a mining rig from any of the four ASIC concerns, but I did get to view a many neat products.

~Bruno K~


Why are you looking for ASICs on FCC's site?

Actually, I was mainly looking at the images, doing a process of elimination that way, but when an image had potential of being a rig, I read the specs. Roger's Labs in Kansas was the only outfit that had a product closely resembling a rig/board, but it wasn't.

Therefore, to date, not a single one of the four outfits have submitted any devices to be tested.

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December 08, 2012, 10:42:30 AM
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Give BFL some credit! There's no way they're going to put a red light of any nature on any of their products because green is the way to go.

Possibly that's the reason for all the delays? Green LEDs were out of stock. Wink

Maybe if they add some clock buffers to the red LEDs they will turn green?

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December 08, 2012, 04:49:34 PM
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Give BFL some credit! There's no way they're going to put a red light of any nature on any of their products because green is the way to go.

Possibly that's the reason for all the delays? Green LEDs were out of stock. Wink

Maybe if they add some clock buffers to the red LEDs they will turn green?

I stand corrected. I just again viewed the Jalapeno and it has a red light on it. I guess that this is the product the red light issue is in reference to. Not being a butthead with the following statement, but originally it was designed to couple as a coffee warmer, thus a red light may be warranted on in this case.

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Last edit: December 08, 2012, 11:00:01 PM by Bogart
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I stand corrected. I just again viewed the Jalapeno and it has a red light on it. I guess that this is the product the red light issue is in reference to. Not being a butthead with the following statement, but originally it was designed to couple as a coffee warmer, thus a red light may be warranted on in this case.

Maybe the Single could be made into a rice cooker.

And the mini-rig could be a breadmaker/oven.

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December 09, 2012, 06:18:10 AM
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Wasn't there a troll thread a out this 2 months ago?

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