The user "thatstinks" is a scammer!

[Ninjahitoko]

WHAT HAPPENED
This user "Thatstinks" is probably the most creative scammer I have ever encountered.

Here is the story.
"Thatstinks" sent me $514 through PayPal. In return I sent him 1 Bitcoin as agreed upon. At the time this was worth around $440. Soon after the transaction this user was messaging me pretending to have not received the 1 Bitcoin. I was confused and did not know what he was saying. He then went on to file a scam accusation against me. I was utterly confused and I went to bed. The next morning I opened my PayPal account and learned that he had filed a claim against me. He sent me a message telling me that the claim included a document which contained a link to the scam accusation, and screenshots of our Bitcointalk conversation. He did all this to make me look like a scammer, so he could reverse the transaction.

When I called up PayPal they told me that the user had filed a special claim where PayPal will investigate and decide the outcome. The user then went on to spam my selling thread with negative comments acting as if he had been scammed, while providing no proof that he had been scammed.
He will most probably win the claim, so at this point I can affirmatively say that I have been scammed.

Scammers Profile Link
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=510478

Reference Link
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1279816.0

Amount Scammed
1BTC

Payment Method
Bitcoins

Proof of Payment
https://blockchain.info/tx/9e464693948b7fd289eb99b18b56454af6c023063c6a27b4064dbad3afcfc202
The other transaction was a transaction to my other Bitcoin wallet, it was my personal transaction.


ADDITIONAL NOTES
My advice to other users is this, NEVER TRADE THROUGH PAYPAL!

[devion420]

why did you accept paypal in first place? 

[Ninjahitoko]

why did you accept paypal in first place?  

I did not know chargebacks were so easy to do.

[EcuaMobi]

Either report the PM where he sends you his BTC address (https://i.imgur.com/cWdA0lH.png) and ask an admin to confirm it's legit
or grant a trusted member temporal access to your account to confirm it.

If you want I can confirm whether that PM is legit or not. If you agree encrypt your account password here https://keybase.io/encrypt#ecuamobi and PM it to me.

Once you prove that PM is legit you need to sign a message with the address 1PTSLTsCgiT9nM3NCvh7bBK7NhA65myNZj to prove you're the one who sent that BTC.

[Thatstinks]

Either report the PM where he sends you his BTC address (https://i.imgur.com/cWdA0lH.png) and ask an admin to confirm it's legit
or grant a trusted member temporal access to your account to confirm it.

If you want I can confirm whether that PM is legit or not. If you agree encrypt your account password here https://keybase.io/encrypt#ecuamobi and PM it to me.

Once you prove that PM is legit you need to sign a message with the address 1PTSLTsCgiT9nM3NCvh7bBK7NhA65myNZj to prove you're the one who sent that BTC.

Alright sent you a PM, feel free to expose this guy as not just a thief but a thief who then tries to blame the victim and photo shopped that address and paypal "Hold". I mean I am reading his snap shots and he even added words and phrases I never use...this guy went the extra mile to steal $514 I tell you that much.

The absolute boldness of his lies is unmatched...I mean he is crying chargeback when no dispute or charge back has been started even, I am holding out hope (foolishly perhaps) so he is caught in yet another lie.

[EcuaMobi]

Despite being online after my previous post OP hasn't replied. Thatstinks has and I've accessed his account. What I can find is this:

!!! WARNING: This user is a newbie. If you are expecting a message from a more veteran member, then this is an imposter !!!
Ok...

I would do 1 then 1 sure, just to be safe on my end too.

I will pay $514 USD via paypal non gift for each BTC that includes a good 14% roughly premium.

What is your paypal, my BTC address is below, also privacy is a huge must, no mention of selling to me to anyone, ok.

1DnYnC6JKfFh7BgvmT4pbhMZqZhG9MDFRp

Josh

I find the sent address was 1DnYnC6JKfFh7BgvmT4pbhMZqZhG9MDFRp which doesn't have any balance at the moment. I can't find any message with the address 1FzeEZfYzfGkegcF2c4TSE11Zbz5kmhfD4, which of course could have been deleted, but I doubt it.

I also found this interesting message:

Bitcoin sent to the address you gave me.
https://blockchain.info/tx/821831508f4adc1ae37bea2a8a7b4c53fae501122b5a140a5d88e1d48433dda7
Transaction^

This transaction sends 0.34534362 to the address 14scb34BPBeNx8pkS6tSrqn6f77A1v4kiQ and 0.65455638 as change to itself (1FzeEZfYzfGkegcF2c4TSE11Zbz5kmhfD4). This confirms OP is lying.

Here's the full conversation I can find at the moment:
Sent
Received


OP, if you think an important message was deleted by thatstinks feel free to allow me temporal access to your account.

[Thatstinks]

Despite being online after my previous post OP hasn't replied. Thatstinks has and I've accessed his account. What I can find is this:

!!! WARNING: This user is a newbie. If you are expecting a message from a more veteran member, then this is an imposter !!!
Ok...

I would do 1 then 1 sure, just to be safe on my end too.

I will pay $514 USD via paypal non gift for each BTC that includes a good 14% roughly premium.

What is your paypal, my BTC address is below, also privacy is a huge must, no mention of selling to me to anyone, ok.

1DnYnC6JKfFh7BgvmT4pbhMZqZhG9MDFRp

Josh

I find the sent address was 1DnYnC6JKfFh7BgvmT4pbhMZqZhG9MDFRp which doesn't have any balance at the moment. I can't find any message with the address 1FzeEZfYzfGkegcF2c4TSE11Zbz5kmhfD4, which of course could have been deleted, but I doubt it.

I also found this interesting message:

Bitcoin sent to the address you gave me.
https://blockchain.info/tx/821831508f4adc1ae37bea2a8a7b4c53fae501122b5a140a5d88e1d48433dda7
Transaction^

This transaction sends 0.34534362 to the address 14scb34BPBeNx8pkS6tSrqn6f77A1v4kiQ and 0.65455638 as change it itself (1FzeEZfYzfGkegcF2c4TSE11Zbz5kmhfD4). This confirms OP is lying.

Here's the full conversation I can find at the moment:
Sent
Received


OP, if you think an important message was deleted by thatstinks feel free to allow me temporal access to your account.

Thank you thank you thank you!

So now that there is proof I am not lying and the seller never sent to the right address (if he tried at all) does that mean you will honor your word Ninjahitoko and refund me or send my 1 BTC + $14 or 1.04 BTC?

I am not holding my breath but I hope he sends it and I don't have to fight with pp.

[Ninjahitoko]

EcuaMobi is an alternate account of thatstinks.

An untrusted account using a trusted account to scam. Indeed this is very interesting.
A very new type of PayPal scam.
Will definitely be reporting this scam to PayPal.

[EcuaMobi]

EcuaMobi is an alternate account of thatstinks.

An untrusted account using a trusted account to scam. Indeed this is very interesting.
A very new type of PayPal scam.
Will definitely be reporting this scam to PayPal.

Yes sure! Then ask a very trusted member to access your account and verify everything 

[bitcoin revo]

EcuaMobi is an alternate account of thatstinks.

An untrusted account using a trusted account to scam. Indeed this is very interesting.
A very new type of PayPal scam.
Will definitely be reporting this scam to PayPal.

Hahaha. That's funny; you just confirmed that you were lying.

Do you really think that anyone will believe you if you didn't even PM EcuaMobi with one of the only ways you'd prove that you weren't the scammer?

If you didn't even address the fact that you sent an amount of bitcoins that wasn't even agreed upon to an address that wasn't agreed upon?

If you changed the transaction TxID from your PM to the original post?

...

You scammers really underestimate us way too much, to the extent that I feel sorry for you.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

EcuaMobi is an alternate account of thatstinks.

An untrusted account using a trusted account to scam. Indeed this is very interesting.
A very new type of PayPal scam.
Will definitely be reporting this scam to PayPal.

Ah dude, you're so wrong.  So so wrong.  You kinda blew any argument you might have had with that one.

[Ninjahitoko]

He is definitely an alt guys don't fall for this guy.
I've been checking the users profile and I found out that they login and log out at relatively same intervals. And the speeds at which I recieve replies from both of them makes me feel like I'm recieving messages from the same user. Weather you believe it or not it is a fact that I sent the Bitcoins to the user. This user belongs to a group of PayPal scammers that use trusted members to as scam assistants to an alt army of untrusted members. I want my money back. I hope this scammer group goes to hell, how can you guys even live after scamming so many people. What I find most infuriating is how this group scams people; make themselves look trusted so other members believe them; and laugh at your face when you get scammed.

[Thatstinks]

He is definitely an alt guys don't fall for this guy.
I've been checking the users profile and I found out that they login and log out at relatively same intervals. And the speeds at which I recieve replies from both of them makes me feel like I'm recieving messages from the same user. Weather you believe it or not it is a fact that I sent the Bitcoins to the user. This user belongs to a group of PayPal scammers that use trusted members to as scam assistants to an alt army of untrusted members. I want my money back. I hope this scammer group goes to hell, how can you guys even live after scamming so many people. What I find most infuriating is how this group scams people; make themselves look trusted so other members believe them; and laugh at your face when you get scammed.

You take your scamming with a passion I have never seen before. You want your money back lol I feel so bad for you, stealing $514 from me, not sending the BTC to my address, trying to flip the script yet being caught in lies, god help you.

[minifrij]

bullshit

Login times prove nothing. If you feel that strongly about EcuaMobi being an alt of Thatstinks (which he isn't), have another trusted member access your account, or is everyone else here an alt of thatstinks too?

[Ninjahitoko]

Bump

[Ninjahitoko]

Hogwash

What if someone logs in at the exact same time the other person logs out? Would you say that's coincidence or is it strong evidence of multiaccounting?

[minifrij]

What if someone logs in at the exact same time the other person logs out? Would you say that's coincidence or is it strong evidence of multiaccounting?

Coincidence. I'm sure that I log in and out at the same time as someone on this forum, though this is my only active account.

Also, I can read your text without the bolding and red. It doesn't emphasize anything when you put it in literally all of your posts.

[shorena]

[ i][ color=pink][ b]Hogwash[/b][/color][/i]

[c olor=red][ b]What if someone logs in at the exact same time the other person logs out? Would you say that's coincidence or is it strong evidence of multiaccounting?[/b][/color]

On a 5 user board maybe. There are currently 2627 users online. No 2760... no 2756 now, so 4 more alts.

F5... 2605, F5 2632, found 27 more alts...

[Ninjahitoko]

Hogwash

What if someone logs in at the exact same time the other person logs out? Would you say that's coincidence or is it strong evidence of multiaccounting?

On a 5 user board maybe. There are currently 2627 users online. No 2760... no 2756 now, so 4 more alts.

F5... 2605, F5 2632, found 27 more alts...

So it's interesting to know that 27 Alts of this user have been found! Thatstinks should be banned for multiaccounting

[Thatstinks]

Hogwash

What if someone logs in at the exact same time the other person logs out? Would you say that's coincidence or is it strong evidence of multiaccounting?

On a 5 user board maybe. There are currently 2627 users online. No 2760... no 2756 now, so 4 more alts.

F5... 2605, F5 2632, found 27 more alts...

So it's interesting to know that 27 Alts of this user have been found! Thatstinks should be banned for multiaccounting

You are officially a joke send me my BTC to the address I gave you and be man I am sure EcuaMobi will not be impressed either.