dree12
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December 05, 2012, 08:36:24 PM |
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because i exchanged the received bitcoins to € and give my boss just €.
Then I do not see any legal reasons your boss might have for firing you over accepting bitcoins. Basically what you did never showed up in his/her administration and accounting. I've paid cab fares in the wrong currency a few times (I'm a frequent traveller). I'm quite sure those drivers weren't fired, and happily accepted the bonus I paid on the exchange rate. Sorry for losing your job, but I suspect there's more to the story. You don't seem to understand. He lost his job by putting a "Bitcoin accepted sticker" on the taxi, which was not his property. |
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greyhawk
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December 05, 2012, 08:47:14 PM |
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I told all my customers about bitcoin and sold some of them my coins. Here's the problem: he was engaging in a secondary business (as a coin exchange) on company time. Can't do that here, not without at least clearing it with his primary employer. This is grounds for immediate termination and no court of labor law is likely to side with him here. |
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Monster Tent
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December 05, 2012, 08:53:08 PM |
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If something goes wrong the employer can be sued as he holds the insurance. Open your own business and pay your own insurance and dont bludge off your employers network and business costs.
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defxor
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December 05, 2012, 10:40:11 PM |
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Can't do that here, not without at least clearing it with his primary employer. This is grounds for immediate termination and no court of labor law is likely to side with him here.
Is "here" in your statement above Germany, or at least in the EU? There's no way it would be grounds for immediate termination of an employee in my country. |
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greyhawk
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December 05, 2012, 10:50:45 PM |
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Can't do that here, not without at least clearing it with his primary employer. This is grounds for immediate termination and no court of labor law is likely to side with him here.
Is "here" in your statement above Germany, or at least in the EU? There's no way it would be grounds for immediate termination of an employee in my country. Germany. |
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Littleshop
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December 06, 2012, 12:25:25 AM |
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Goto the media and make it a big story. Then ask for donation to open a 1st ever bitcoin accepting Taxi. It will bring international attention and your boss will go out of business.
Then make love to his wife. Steal his children. Then you win.
I cant go to media, because he had a legal reason to kick me. That never stopped anyone here. |
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myrkul
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December 06, 2012, 03:13:51 AM |
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But now I am workless because of bitcoins. No, you are jobless because you did a stupid. The same would have happened if you had started accepting precious metals or US dollars without getting the OK. Take it as a life lesson, and move on. |
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Anon136
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December 06, 2012, 03:38:57 AM |
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all this talk about whats legal and what isn't, who cares. Law, from the perspective of the morally concerned individual, is at best completely frivolous. One should do what is right even if it is illegal and should refrain from doing what is wrong even if it is legal.
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Rep Thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=381041If one can not confer upon another a right which he does not himself first possess, by what means does the state derive the right to engage in behaviors from which the public is prohibited? |
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edd
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December 06, 2012, 03:52:35 AM |
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Are you sure your city isn't issuing licenses? Have you asked yourself or did someone just tell you? I've run into quite a few people who are misinformed about local rules, regulations, policies, etc.
When you say buying an existing license from another taxi business costs 35,000 USD, is that for the license only, or for the customers as well?
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Jutarul
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December 06, 2012, 03:59:01 AM |
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What I don't understand is why you did this without talking to the owner first though.
Yeah, that's the part that seems fishy. There is more likely more to this story than he's sharing, IMHO. No I was just lazy. "Dear Boss i want to accept bitcoins as payment in your taxi". What would my boss say? " what is bitcoins? explain it but i dont have more then 2 minutes" he wouldn understand what the hell bitcoins is. And there are no national laws about "bitcoins" so it would be impossible for his accounting to manage the bitcoin in/output. So I did it by myself. Let's do a mind trick. Replace bitcoins with dollars. Would your boss still fire you if you accepted dollar bills in your taxi as payment? |
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Akka
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December 07, 2012, 07:35:29 PM |
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anyone would help me to fund my business?
Maybe you should repost the part how you plan to do it from the German section here. Also a small business plan would do wonders. And like I said, I give you 10BTC when your plan to make a Bitcoin Taxi becomes feasible. |
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TheButterZone
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December 07, 2012, 07:38:49 PM |
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anyone would help me to fund my business?
https://btcjam.com/And what Akka said. |
Saying that you don't trust someone because of their behavior is completely valid.
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SgtSpike
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December 07, 2012, 07:51:54 PM |
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What I don't understand is why you did this without talking to the owner first though.
Yeah, that's the part that seems fishy. There is more likely more to this story than he's sharing, IMHO. No I was just lazy. "Dear Boss i want to accept bitcoins as payment in your taxi". What would my boss say? " what is bitcoins? explain it but i dont have more then 2 minutes" he wouldn understand what the hell bitcoins is. And there are no national laws about "bitcoins" so it would be impossible for his accounting to manage the bitcoin in/output. So I did it by myself. Let's do a mind trick. Replace bitcoins with dollars. Would your boss still fire you if you accepted dollar bills in your taxi as payment? No, but he might if you start an impromptu currency exchange whereby you sell other people dollar bills. Which is essentially the reason he was fired. He was not fired for accepting Bitcoins. He was fired for selling them. |
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December 07, 2012, 11:26:00 PM |
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Sorry but i think your in the wrong, you should have consulted with your boss before accepting another " currency ".
Ive been in a similar situation.
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edd
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December 08, 2012, 05:14:12 AM |
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Sorry but i think your in the wrong, you should have consulted with your boss before accepting another " currency ".
Ive been in a similar situation.
I think he understands that he was fired for not consulting with his employer before advertising and running his own "side business" of trading bitcoins in his taxi. |
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BlackHeartFund
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December 09, 2012, 09:03:43 AM
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Please overread my sentences and give me a pn with a correction.
Till today I was working as a taxi driver in germany. I put some stickers up on the car windows that iam accepting bitcoins. So am i. But my boss didnt know anything about bitcoin and that iam accepting them.
Today a customer called my company and asked for the taxi that is accepting bitcoins. So everybody knows and I got fired because i did it without his permission.
I told all my customers about bitcoin and sold some of them my coins. But now iam workless because of bitcoins. that suxs.
You are out of a job because you are irresponsible, not because of bitcoin. Ignore list being the asshole who shits on a person who was unjustly fired. We don't have enough information to say that he was unjustly fired. He did this without authorization from the his boss, the taxi license holder. Do you know the German taxi laws and regulations? For all we know, it could put the company at risk of losing a license, jeopardize some exclusive payment processing contract, create insurance issues, or cause any number of other hassles. Even if that wasn't the case, doing something like offering an alternate payment is option is not in the purview of this employee. I feel bad for the guy losing his job, it seems a little harsh, but saying it was "unjust" is, well... unjust. Premature at least. |
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Dalkore
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December 10, 2012, 07:57:15 PM |
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Please overread my sentences and give me a pn with a correction.
Till today I was working as a taxi driver in germany. I put some stickers up on the car windows that iam accepting bitcoins. So am i. But my boss didnt know anything about bitcoin and that iam accepting them.
Today a customer called my company and asked for the taxi that is accepting bitcoins. So everybody knows and I got fired because i did it without his permission.
I told all my customers about bitcoin and sold some of them my coins. But now iam workless because of bitcoins. that suxs.
I feel for your loss but you should of asked before hand on such a major change like payment methods. I can see him being upset and not trusting because you took this initiative before consulting him. Have you heard of Uber? Get a town car and maybe try that? |
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December 10, 2012, 08:13:14 PM |
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Please overread my sentences and give me a pn with a correction.
Till today I was working as a taxi driver in germany. I put some stickers up on the car windows that iam accepting bitcoins. So am i. But my boss didnt know anything about bitcoin and that iam accepting them.
Today a customer called my company and asked for the taxi that is accepting bitcoins. So everybody knows and I got fired because i did it without his permission.
I told all my customers about bitcoin and sold some of them my coins. But now iam workless because of bitcoins. that suxs.
I feel for your loss but you should of asked before hand on such a major change like payment methods. I can see him being upset and not trusting because you took this initiative before consulting him. Have you heard of Uber? Get a town car and maybe try that? I live in germany. There is no uber or town car! Please give me some donations to fund my own cab business Try Flinc |
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December 10, 2012, 10:02:30 PM |
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Try the bank for a business loan first. If it fails, then make a business plan, and see if you can get funding from here ?
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December 11, 2012, 05:32:50 PM |
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Just something to consider especially in Germany I think there are regulations regarding trading with Bitcoins. Specifically I believe BAFIN covers them. While I'm not an expert in German regulation I have spoken to some Bitcoin enthusiasts in Germany who told me that by accepting Bitcoins you are subject to the same regulatory requirements as a bank doing commodities trading. I think this has something to do with essentially offering a type of money changing service.
If this is in fact the case then perhaps you should be careful with setting up a business in Germany that accepts Bitcoins.
If anyone has any hard facts about this I would be really interested to hear from you.
Thanks
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