Jaw3bmasters (OP)
Full Member
 Offline
Activity: 196
Merit: 100
Another block in the wall
|
 |
December 04, 2012, 11:43:28 AM |
|
1. Bitcoin use SHA.
2. The US gov owns SHA algorithm.
|
In Cryptography we trust.
|
|
|
fronti
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 2912
Merit: 1309
|
 |
December 04, 2012, 11:54:02 AM |
|
what if the US Gov (or any other) have found a weakness in SHA?
|
If you like to give me a tip: bc1q8ht32j5hj42us5qfptvu08ug9zeqgvxuhwznzk
"Bankraub ist eine Unternehmung von Dilettanten. Wahre Profis gründen eine Bank." Bertolt Brecht
|
|
|
Jaw3bmasters (OP)
Full Member
Offline
Activity: 196
Merit: 100
Another block in the wall
|
|
December 04, 2012, 11:57:23 AM |
|
what if the US Gov (or any other) have found a weakness in SHA?
According to Wiki, there's SHA-3.....just in-case I suppose. |
In Cryptography we trust.
|
|
|
dree12
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 1246
Merit: 1077
|
|
December 04, 2012, 01:01:21 PM |
|
1. Bitcoin use SHA.
2. The US gov owns SHA algorithm.
US Gov't property released to the public is always in the public domain. Incorporating something in the public domain does not transfer copyright. |
|
|
|
|
Jaw3bmasters (OP)
Full Member
Offline
Activity: 196
Merit: 100
Another block in the wall
|
|
December 04, 2012, 01:13:42 PM |
|
1. Bitcoin use SHA.
2. The US gov owns SHA algorithm.
US Gov't property released to the public is always in the public domain. Incorporating something in the public domain does not transfer copyright. Ok, so what's with US gov cryptography export regulations? |
In Cryptography we trust.
|
|
|
FreeMoney
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 1246
Merit: 1016
Strength in numbers
|
|
December 04, 2012, 08:05:34 PM |
|
Do they own addition too?
Who cares.
Maybe they will kill you, but it won't actually be because you are a witch no matter what they say.
|
Play Bitcoin Poker at sealswithclubs.eu. We're active and open to everyone. |
|
|
MoonShadow
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 1708
Merit: 1010
|
|
December 04, 2012, 08:09:47 PM |
|
1. Bitcoin use SHA.
2. The US gov owns SHA algorithm.
US Gov't property released to the public is always in the public domain. Incorporating something in the public domain does not transfer copyright. Ok, so what's with US gov cryptography export regulations? They consider strong encryption to be 'ammunition' under export law. Rediculous, really, but it has zero effect upon bitcoin, because bitcoin doesn't actually encrypt transactions or any other broadcast data object. The network is, generally, broadcast in the clear. Secure hashing algos are not encryption algos. |
"The powers of financial capitalism had another far-reaching aim, nothing less than to create a world system of financial control in private hands able to dominate the political system of each country and the economy of the world as a whole. This system was to be controlled in a feudalist fashion by the central banks of the world acting in concert, by secret agreements arrived at in frequent meetings and conferences. The apex of the systems was to be the Bank for International Settlements in Basel, Switzerland, a private bank owned and controlled by the world's central banks which were themselves private corporations. Each central bank...sought to dominate its government by its ability to control Treasury loans, to manipulate foreign exchanges, to influence the level of economic activity in the country, and to influence cooperative politicians by subsequent economic rewards in the business world."
- Carroll Quigley, CFR member, mentor to Bill Clinton, from 'Tragedy And Hope'
|
|
|
FreeMoney
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 1246
Merit: 1016
Strength in numbers
|
|
December 04, 2012, 08:17:07 PM |
|
1. Bitcoin use SHA.
2. The US gov owns SHA algorithm.
US Gov't property released to the public is always in the public domain. Incorporating something in the public domain does not transfer copyright. Ok, so what's with US gov cryptography export regulations? Do you suppose that generally export regulations only apply to government property? |
Play Bitcoin Poker at sealswithclubs.eu. We're active and open to everyone. |
|
|
TraderTimm
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 2408
Merit: 1121
|
|
December 04, 2012, 08:22:03 PM |
|
1. US Government owns printed money
2. You own US printed money
3. The US Government owns you
Puts bitcoin into perspective, doesn't it.
|
fortitudinem multis - catenum regit omnia
|
|
|
|
kgo
|
|
December 04, 2012, 08:58:56 PM |
|
Phil Zimmermann, authoer of PGP, created an interesting precedent on ammunition regulations: """ Zimmermann challenged these regulations in a curious way. He published the entire source code of PGP in a hardback book,[13] via MIT Press, which was distributed and sold widely. Anybody wishing to build their own copy of PGP could buy the $60 book, cut off the covers, separate the pages, and scan them using an OCR program, creating a set of source code text files. One could then build the application using the freely available GNU Compiler Collection. PGP would thus be available anywhere in the world. The claimed principle was simple: export of munitions—guns, bombs, planes, and software—was (and remains) restricted; but the export of books is protected by the First Amendment. The question was never tested in court with respect to PGP. In cases addressing other encryption software, however, two federal appeals courts have established the rule that cryptographic software source code is speech protected by the First Amendment (the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals in the Bernstein case and the Sixth Circuit Court of Appeals in the Junger case). """ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pretty_Good_Privacy#Criminal_investigation |
|
|
|
|
Jaw3bmasters (OP)
Full Member
Offline
Activity: 196
Merit: 100
Another block in the wall
|
|
December 04, 2012, 10:12:25 PM |
|
Phil Zimmermann, authoer of PGP, created an interesting precedent on ammunition regulations: """ Zimmermann challenged these regulations in a curious way. He published the entire source code of PGP in a hardback book,[13] via MIT Press, which was distributed and sold widely. Anybody wishing to build their own copy of PGP could buy the $60 book, cut off the covers, separate the pages, and scan them using an OCR program, creating a set of source code text files. One could then build the application using the freely available GNU Compiler Collection. PGP would thus be available anywhere in the world. The claimed principle was simple: export of munitions—guns, bombs, planes, and software—was (and remains) restricted; but the export of books is protected by the First Amendment. The question was never tested in court with respect to PGP. In cases addressing other encryption software, however, two federal appeals courts have established the rule that cryptographic software source code is speech protected by the First Amendment (the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals in the Bernstein case and the Sixth Circuit Court of Appeals in the Junger case). """ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pretty_Good_Privacy#Criminal_investigationThank you. |
In Cryptography we trust.
|
|
|
mentalove
Newbie
Offline
Activity: 27
Merit: 0
|
|
December 04, 2012, 10:27:38 PM |
|
1. US Government owns printed money
2. You own US printed money
3. The US Government owns you
Puts bitcoin into perspective, doesn't it.
ownership does't really matter. the individual has the choice to work and spend effort and energy to acquire said "money". you can print money, but you cant print wealth/value. unless you are an all out slave, your labor is yours alone. |
|
|
|
|
farlack
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 1310
Merit: 1000
|
|
December 04, 2012, 10:31:52 PM |
|
Doesn't really matter if they legally do or don't, here in America, the USA government can own me, you, us, your house, my house, my sperm, and yours too if they want it. Not like we can stop them.
|
|
|
|
|
|
