Facebook, Twitter, Google To Censor Immigration Discussion in Germany

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*der ewige jude

Your ability to twist my words are astonishing.

I have nothing against jews - i could be one you know?

What i hate, which i already stated, is extremism and you my dear display a lot of it.

Jews were hated and persecuted over the last two millenias, maybe even the most hated and persecuted - so it is pretty ironic that a jew has such a way of thinking.

[J. J. Phillips]

*der ewige jude

Obviously I'm not German. Thanks for correcting my German version of "the eternal Jew."

Your ability to twist my words are astonishing.

I have nothing against jews - i could be one you know?

We could both be Jews. Or neither of us could be Jews. I asked if it would bother you because you accused me of being a "wannabe racist jew[sic]." I'm not sure why you would make such an accusation unless you thought being Jewish (or "wanting to be" Jewish) is something negative. When I accused you of being a Nazi, it was certainly because I think being a Nazi is negative. And again, the reason I accuse you of being a Nazi is because you're knowingly supporting a policy that will result in many dead Jews.

What i hate, which i already stated, is extremism and you my dear display a lot of it.

If you actually opposed extremism, you would be opposing bringing a million people from an extreme, militant Jew-hating religion into Germany. Instead you're opposing those who oppose it. It's not hard to deduce from that where you really stand.

I'm definitely an extremist when it comes to opposing Jew-haters. Some people lament the Dresden bombings. As I've said before, my only problem with the Dresden bombings is not enough Nazis burned to death. I'd also like to see Nuremberg style trials for the people who implemented the current bring-as-many-Jew-hating-Muslims-into-Europe-as-possible policy.

Jews were hated and persecuted over the last two millenias, maybe even the most hated and persecuted - so it is pretty ironic that a jew has such a way of thinking.

Thanks for capitalizing Jew once, if only because it was at the beginning of a sentence. Most I-have-nothing-against-Jews Jew-haters can't bring themselves to capitalize the word at all.

But I'm confused by the content. What Jew has what way of thinking?

[Newmba]

the situatio looks tense in Germany

[Wilikon]

the situatio looks tense in Germany

Tell that again to all those poor german women.

[valta4065]

the situatio looks tense in Germany

Tell that again to all those poor german women.

Well they're not really that numerous... It's not the most important in all that I think. (Though each case is tragic)
But yeah situation is fucking tensed, and not in Germany but in whole Europe.
In France currently, emergency state has been declared and is active and is going to be even longer than the original length.

[J. J. Phillips]

A fairly obvious thought occurred to me. We know that media in Germany is being censored. Why isn't anyone seriously questioning how many refugees rapefugees invaders have been imported? I've heard figures like "1 million" for the past year. How do we know it isn't actually 10 million? If the German government asked the media to report lower numbers, it's obvious they would comply.

[jak1]

Yes, actually we don't know number of them..two years before 2 million refugees crossed syria turkish border and every day came more and more..could be true that they are now in Europe..we don't know we just see streets full of them and their veiled woman

[adverbelly]

The two largest social networks, Facebook and Twitter, and the world’s largest search engine, Google, have teamed up with German law enforcement to delete “hate speech” within 24 hours in what is being seen as a last-ditch effort to silence public dissent about a gigantic wave of Syrian immigration.

The partnership to crack down on what Germany deems illegal speech comes after German law enforcement’s reported concerns about “racist abuse” posted to social media after the country’s huge and extremely controversial import of over a million Syrian refugees.

Justice Minister Heiko Maas is reported to have warned social networks that they must not become “a funfair for the far-right” and that “the benchmark to be applied will be German law and no longer just the terms of use of each network.”

Specialist teams will be used to track down, examine, and remove offending posts, and the process is not to take more than 24 hours.

After World War Two, all Nazi-related imagery and material was made illegal irrespective of context in Germany. All Nazi-related swastikas and salutes were replaced in the Wolfenstein video game remake, owing to this law.


http://www.breitbart.com/tech/2015/12/15/facebook-twitter-google-collude-with-german-government-to-censor-discussion-on-immigration/

germany always brags its freedom of thought but now it is abolishing it.. this is soo ridiculous..

[J. J. Phillips]

Yes, actually we don't know number of them..two years before 2 million refugees crossed syria turkish border and every day came more and more..could be true that they are now in Europe..we don't know we just see streets full of them and their veiled woman

Some group (independent of governments and media) should do an independent survey of the percentage of Muslims in Germany and other European countries. Who knows how many lies are being told?

[bizerinm]

Stop them before become majority in all European countries..Than they'll try to use european laws to create their state and independence

[criptix]

*der ewige jude

Obviously I'm not German. Thanks for correcting my German version of "the eternal Jew."

No problem. You just learned something.

Your ability to twist my words are astonishing.

I have nothing against jews - i could be one you know?

We could both be Jews. Or neither of us could be Jews. I asked if it would bother you because you accused me of being a "wannabe racist jew[sic]." I'm not sure why you would make such an accusation unless you thought being Jewish (or "wanting to be" Jewish) is something negative. When I accused you of being a Nazi, it was certainly because I think being a Nazi is negative. And again, the reason I accuse you of being a Nazi is because you're knowingly supporting a policy that will result in many dead Jews.

Do you notice something? Im calling you a racist jew, but the only thing that bothers you is that im calling you a jew?
Hello Saddampuh, you are again twisting my words to suit your agenda.

What i hate, which i already stated, is extremism and you my dear display a lot of it.

If you actually opposed extremism, you would be opposing bringing a million people from an extreme, militant Jew-hating religion into Germany. Instead you're opposing those who oppose it. It's not hard to deduce from that where you really stand.

I'm definitely an extremist when it comes to opposing Jew-haters. Some people lament the Dresden bombings. As I've said before, my only problem with the Dresden bombings is not enough Nazis burned to death. I'd also like to see Nuremberg style trials for the people who implemented the current bring-as-many-Jew-hating-Muslims-into-Europe-as-possible policy.

I have real life examples for muslims and jews living peacefully with each other in germany in contrast to you who is only using polemics to agitate the mass, while accusing me of being a neo-nazi (whose goal is to exterminate the european jews and all other subhumans by letting millions of extremist muslims in - yeah i know it seems you have paronoid delusions.)

Jews were hated and persecuted over the last two millenias, maybe even the most hated and persecuted - so it is pretty ironic that a jew has such a way of thinking.

Thanks for capitalizing Jew once, if only because it was at the beginning of a sentence. Most I-have-nothing-against-Jews Jew-haters can't bring themselves to capitalize the word at all.

But I'm confused by the content. What Jew has what way of thinking?

If you read my post carefully you woulda have noticed that i usually dont capitalize at all except at the start of a sentence - it is just my writing style.

Let me paraphase the question:
Why would someone who knows that jews were victims of racism and genocide over the last two millenia agitate people to be racist and exert violence to certain religious or ethnic groups?

[criptix]

Yes, actually we don't know number of them..two years before 2 million refugees crossed syria turkish border and every day came more and more..could be true that they are now in Europe..we don't know we just see streets full of them and their veiled woman

Yes, actually we don't know number of them..two years before 2 million refugees crossed syria turkish border and every day came more and more..could be true that they are now in Europe..we don't know we just see streets full of them and their veiled woman

Some group (independent of governments and media) should do an independent survey of the percentage of Muslims in Germany and other European countries. Who knows how many lies are being told?

A fairly obvious thought occurred to me. We know that media in Germany is being censored. Why isn't anyone seriously questioning how many refugees rapefugees invaders have been imported? I've heard figures like "1 million" for the past year. How do we know it isn't actually 10 million? If the German government asked the media to report lower numbers, it's obvious they would comply.

Do you believe in reptilian Jews? Flat Earth?

[KiwiParty]

There is a reason to censor hate speeches on Facebook.
Another topic is the right of using your speech freely.

Both may contain rude language and are based on insufficient knowledge aka being dumb or "crazy".
But to say this would be a discussion about immigration in germany goes way beyond the intention Facebook and the german government has.

[bitsmichel]

There is a reason to censor hate speeches on Facebook.
Another topic is the right of using your speech freely.

Both may contain rude language and are based on insufficient knowledge aka being dumb or "crazy".
But to say this would be a discussion about immigration in germany goes way beyond the intention Facebook and the german government has.

Perhaps some posts or messages may have very valid arguments, but it simply does not suit the agenda of the german government. Posts from Ukrainian and Russian groups with nazi agenda are simply ignored. Facebook simply listens to money 

[valta4065]

There is a reason to censor hate speeches on Facebook.
Another topic is the right of using your speech freely.

Both may contain rude language and are based on insufficient knowledge aka being dumb or "crazy".
But to say this would be a discussion about immigration in germany goes way beyond the intention Facebook and the german government has.

Perhaps some posts or messages may have very valid arguments, but it simply does not suit the agenda of the german government. Posts from Ukrainian and Russian groups with nazi agenda are simply ignored. Facebook simply listens to money 

Well what did you expect?

Facebook is a private company. Private companies always cooperated with what was the most lucrative for them. That's why companies where so supportive of the third Reich btw.

[saddampbuh]

A fairly obvious thought occurred to me. We know that media in Germany is being censored. Why isn't anyone seriously questioning how many refugees rapefugees invaders have been imported? I've heard figures like "1 million" for the past year. How do we know it isn't actually 10 million? If the German government asked the media to report lower numbers, it's obvious they would comply.

right, because the authorities can censor pretty much any information they want on the grounds that it might offend a particular ethnic group or is likely to lead to hatred or whatever, those aren't the exact wordings of their laws but you get the idea. they were going to put the pegida leader on trial for treason against germany for speaking out against multiculturalism because multiculturalism and german-ness are one and the same.

everything you're saying about the muslim problem in europe including the violence against jews is accurate but why do you never critisise the jews and their supporters who implemented these laws across half of europe in the aftermath of the holohoax or the jewish media bosses who self censor and publish an article every other day in the guardian comparing anyone who wants to keep illegal muslim migrants out to hitler? rich and powerful jews like soros sponsor "no borders" activism and the jewish masses vote overwhelmingly for pussy leftist green parties and barack obama. if the jew turned his power against the shared enemy every last muslim could be expelled from europe but true to his nature he would sooner drown like the proverbial scorpion.

[bryant.coleman]

Stop them before become majority in all European countries..Than they'll try to use european laws to create their state and independence

Too late for that. Western Europe is already lost. Most of the Western European nations will become Muslim majority in a few decades time (perhaps with the exception of Italy). Eastern Europe is the only hope (Poland, Belarus, Slovakia, Hungary.etc). Even if there is zero immigration from now onward, the already existing Muslim population will start multiplying at a rapid pace to drown the natives in the Western European nations.

[criptix]

Stop them before become majority in all European countries..Than they'll try to use european laws to create their state and independence

Too late for that. Western Europe is already lost. Most of the Western European nations will become Muslim majority in a few decades time (perhaps with the exception of Italy). Eastern Europe is the only hope (Poland, Belarus, Slovakia, Hungary.etc). Even if there is zero immigration from now onward, the already existing Muslim population will start multiplying at a rapid pace to drown the natives in the Western European nations.

Mother russia and putin will save us all for sure.
Are you getting paid on the amount of lies you spread?

[J. J. Phillips]

Your ability to twist my words are astonishing.

I have nothing against jews - i could be one you know?

We could both be Jews. Or neither of us could be Jews. I asked if it would bother you because you accused me of being a "wannabe racist jew[sic]." I'm not sure why you would make such an accusation unless you thought being Jewish (or "wanting to be" Jewish) is something negative. When I accused you of being a Nazi, it was certainly because I think being a Nazi is negative. And again, the reason I accuse you of being a Nazi is because you're knowingly supporting a policy that will result in many dead Jews.

Do you notice something? Im calling you a racist jew, but the only thing that bothers you is that im calling you a jew?

I've given no indication that I'm bothered by being called a Jew. I usually don't acknowledge whether or not I'm a Jew. If it would bother someone if I were I Jew, I'd prefer that person be bothered. I responded to the "racist" charge earlier. No need to repeat myself.

What i hate, which i already stated, is extremism and you my dear display a lot of it.

If you actually opposed extremism, you would be opposing bringing a million people from an extreme, militant Jew-hating religion into Germany. Instead you're opposing those who oppose it. It's not hard to deduce from that where you really stand.

I'm definitely an extremist when it comes to opposing Jew-haters. Some people lament the Dresden bombings. As I've said before, my only problem with the Dresden bombings is not enough Nazis burned to death. I'd also like to see Nuremberg style trials for the people who implemented the current bring-as-many-Jew-hating-Muslims-into-Europe-as-possible policy.

I have real life examples for muslims and jews living peacefully with each other in germany in contrast to you who is only using polemics to agitate the mass, while accusing me of being a neo-nazi (whose goal is to exterminate the european jews and all other subhumans by letting millions of extremist muslims in - yeah i know it seems you have paronoid delusions.)

Your anecdotal experiences are completely consistent with something I said earlier: most Muslims (like most Christians and most Jews) know very little about their religion. I'm sure Nazis and Jews could get along fine if the Nazis were incredibly ill-informed about their ideology.

There are explicit references to the extermination of the Jews in Islamic teaching. It would be conspiratorial to deny that fact. The best an apologist for Islam could do is acknowledge it and then explicitly try to reinterpret the relevant passages. The usual apologist for Islam has a simpler response: "Shut up racist!" Or, to stick with the topic of the thread, "Hallo, Herr Zuckerberg. Hier ist Frau Merkel. Wir mussen das Racist silencen! Silence macht frei!"

Jews were hated and persecuted over the last two millenias, maybe even the most hated and persecuted - so it is pretty ironic that a jew has such a way of thinking.

Thanks for capitalizing Jew once, if only because it was at the beginning of a sentence. Most I-have-nothing-against-Jews Jew-haters can't bring themselves to capitalize the word at all.

But I'm confused by the content. What Jew has what way of thinking?

If you read my post carefully you woulda have noticed that i usually dont capitalize at all except at the start of a sentence - it is just my writing style.

Let me paraphase the question:
Why would someone who knows that jews were victims of racism and genocide over the last two millenia agitate people to be racist and exert violence to certain religious or ethnic groups?

I don't agitate for people to be racist. Racism is a consequence of classifying people based on genetics. Islam (like Christianity) is independent of genetics. Islam is a system of beliefs. It is of course acceptable to hate people based on their ideas. It's a crazy idea to treat all ideas as equal. Judaism can confuse the issue because there are religious Jews and ethnic Jews. People can, of course, oppose the ideas contained in Judaism. The Nazis hated them as an ethnic group.

Nazism is also a collection of ideas. It would be racist to hate the Nazis because they were German. It's fine to hate the Nazis because they are Nazis. Likewise, if a group in the Middle East had very similar ideas to the Nazis, it's fine to hate and violently oppose them. In fact, it's racist if someone would oppose German Nazis but would not oppose Arab Nazis (e.g., Hamas).

[J. J. Phillips]

Do you believe in reptilian Jews? Flat Earth?

No and No. Conspiracy theories are fun to entertain, but if you check my history you'll find I'm usually arguing against them (if I engage at all). Look at the "Who did 9/11?" thread. I also did a fun "Who did 7/7?" spoof.

There, I answered your questions. Here's one for you:

Do you believe there is credible evidence that Facebook, Twitter and Google are censoring the current immigration discussion in Germany?

(I'm not asking if that's a good or bad thing from your point of view. I'm asking if it's reasonable to believe it's happening.)

Well, you got two questions, so I'll try my luck at a second:

Over the last ten years, have there been more hate crimes committed by Muslims against Jews in Europe, or by Jews against Muslims in Europe?