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February 20, 2016, 05:22:00 PM
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One down, one to go.

http://stanislavs.org/democracy-of-mass-destruction-engsubs/

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Excellent. I´ll watch this and it´s in a FB group where I am.

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Two Documentaries: "Murder of Yugoslavia" and "Democracy of Mass Destruction"
http://stanislavs.org/two-documentaries-murder-of-yugoslavia-and-democracy-of-mass-destruction/

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Russian television aired this week two documentaries, which I can almost guarantee will never be shown on the History Channel in the West. Not because they are difficult to translate from Russian, but because they don't tow the official American party line and will be considered dissidence by the Western media censorship.

Alas, I do not have time to translate them, but I will present translations of the blurbs/summaries on the TV channel's pages.

The first one is...

How Yugoslavia was Murdered. The Shadow of Dayton

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVaNw36w-iU

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On November 21, 1995 world news agencies reported breaking news from the United States. At a military base in Dayton, the presidents of Serbia, Croatia and the leader of the Bosnian Muslims signed an agreement on cessation of the civil war in Bosnia and Herzegovina. In accordance with it, this part of the former Yugoslavia is now divided into the Muslim-Croat Federation and Republika Srpska (Serbian Republic). An international force under NATO command is deployed there to control the borders and to support the truce - only about 60,000 people, half of whom are Americans. The Serbs, who at that time controlled almost 75% of the territory of Bosnia and Herzegovina went to the serious concessions and agreed to keep only 49% of the territory. This was done for the sake of ending the civil war, which by that time virtually destroyed the former Yugoslavia.

In Dayton, President Clinton told reporters about the "key role" of Slobodan Milosevic in ending the civil war and call the Serbian president "guarantor of peace in the Balkans." Just a few years after these statements, Serbia will be subjected to crushing air strikes by the US and NATO, will lose Kosovo, while the "guarantor of peace" Slobodan Milosevic, will die under mysterious circumstances in a prison of the Hague Tribunal.

Former Minister of Information of the Republic of Srpska, Miroslav Tohol, believes that the Dayton Accords were merely an intermediary for the strategic plans of the US and its allies to advance NATO eastward.

The civil war in Bosnia and Herzegovina was the most destructive military confrontation in Europe since World War II. Initially, the conflict was triggered by the unilateral decision of the Bosnian and Croatian deputies of the local parliament to secede from Yugoslavia. In doing so, they completely ignored the opinion of the Bosnian Serbs, who made up more then 31% of the population of this Yugoslav republic.

In fact, it was hinted to the Bosnian Serbs that from now on they will have the role of a powerless minority in the new nationalist state of Bosnians and Croats. In response, Serbian communities began formation of their own government structures. European countries have tried to stop the development of the conflict by proposing a peace plan for the division of Bosnia and Herzegovina into territories, in which the governance is transferred to the ethnic majority. In the spring of 1992, the plan was approved and even signed by representatives of the three communities, but the unexpected intervention of the United States has destroyed all hopes for peace.

The civil war in Bosnia and Herzegovina lasted for almost four years. As the result, one of the most beautiful and prosperous regions of Europe was completely destroyed and covered with blood.

According to the official data, the war in Bosnia and Herzegovina took the lives of 100,000 people, according to unofficial - twice as much. Of the four and a half million inhabitants of the republic, almost three million have become refugees. The spilled rivers of blood have forever divided the lives of the two communities - Serb and Muslim-Croat.

The bloody confrontation in Bosnia and Herzegovina was accompanied by all the horrors of the civil and religious wars - ethnic cleansing, secret concentration camps, brutal torture and mass rape. All the while, all the parties to the conflict once belonged to a single Slavic people, with a common language and culture. Separation into Catholics, Orthodox and Muslims was the result of five centuries of Ottoman rule, foreign invasions and the expansion of the Vatican City.

Strange blindness and one-sidedness in the coverage of the conflict, according to Serbian analysts, was the result of an unprecedented information war that the Western countries have declared on the then Serbian leadership, because of their attempts to preserve a united Yugoslavia.

At the same time, the Western journalists were completely silent about the facts of participation in the war of thousands of Islamic terrorists from other countries on the side of the Bosnian units.

In addition to the information war, Western countries also declared an economic war on the Serbs. Tough sanctions were imposed on Serbia for support of the compatriots and assistance to refugees. The most defenceless categories of the population became their main victims - the elderly and children, but the international community for some reason didn't care about their fate.

As a result, for the attempts to resist the destruction of Yugoslavia, the Serbs virtually ended up in the full economic, political and military blockade. The sanctions were not lifted, even when, in 1994, Milosevic had closed the border between Greater Serbia and the Republika Srpska in Bosnia, to demonstrate to the West the desire for peace. On the contrary, the pressure on Belgrade only intensified, and NATO aircraft started bombing the Bosnian Serbs.

Despite the economic blockade and information pressure , the Bosnian Serbs have managed to defend the Republic and to turn the tide of the war imposed on them. By 1995 they controlled nearly 75% of the territory of Bosnia and Herzegovina. But, on Aug. 28, 1995 at the Sarajevo Markale market, a series of unexpected and mysterious explosions occurred. 37 civilians were killed, 90 people were injured. Just two or three minutes after crews of major Western broadcasters were working at the scene, saying that it was a mortar attack. By a strange coincidence, the explosions occurred on the eve of the meeting of the representatives of the US Secretary of State with the leader of the Bosnian Muslims Izetbegovic. The US and its allies immediately laid the responsibility for the tragedy on the Serbs, and already by August 30th NATO countries launched a military operation, codenamed "Deliberate Force".

Division of Republika Srpska were subjected to powerful air strikes, which affected the civilian population.

Only after the war, independent experts and criminologists from European countries suggested that the explosion at the Markale is very similar to a carefully planned provocation. Its goal was to create a plausible pretext for open intervention of the United States and its NATO allies in the civil war in the Balkans.

Similar techniques were used against Belgrade in 1999. Then, under the pretext of protecting the Albanian population in Kosovo, NATO aircraft for 11 straight weeks destroyed the infrastructure of Serbia, not sparing even schools and hospitals. As a result of this aggression, 2,500 Serbs were killed and 12,500 were wounded. For the first time since the Second World War, the US and its European allies, by using brute force, tore away Kosovo from Serbia, and changed the borders of an independent state.

The forces fuelling the Balkan conflict were clearly unfamiliar with the history of this region. According to the Serbs, they were forced to take up the arms not only encouraged the new aggressive reality, but also historical memory. Foreign political strategists clearly did not take into account that people, who could defend their right to live while under a multi-century long bloody occupation and genocide, will fight to the end.

Author and Director: Aleksej Denisov.

Highlighting is mine, and those fragments clearly demonstrate the technologies of destruction and fragmentation of states, which were used before Yugoslavia on Russia in 1917 and an in 1992, and now again against Russia through the American invasion and destruction of Ukraine and an open economical warfare against Russia for helping hundreds of thousands ethnic Russian refugees from Malorossia and Novorossia (formerly known as Ukraine between 1917 and 2014). Note how the Markale market provocation bear the same signature as the unidentified snipers on Maidan, shooting at both the protesters and the police.

An at that time Russia was under soft US occupation, so it could do nothing...



The second one is...

Democracy of Mass Destruction

EDIT: English translation at:
http://stanislavs.org/democracy-of-mass-destruction-engsubs/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=poLMjJGzzWY

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A Serbian girl, Christine Milutinovic, is afflicted with acute leukaemia. Christine is of the same age as the NATO bombing of Yugoslavia. And at the other end of the world, veteran of the US Armed Forces, Doug Rocca, also suffers from numerous diseases. Doug fought in Iraq and Afghanistan. American Rocco and Serb Milutinovic are victims of depleted uranium shells.

From the nuclear bombing of Japan in World War II and until today the United States participated in almost all of the military conflicts in different parts of the world: Korea, Vietnam, Cuba, Latin America, Yugoslavia, Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria ... Calling itself "a global peacemaker and bulwark of democracy", the United States has long been trying to become the "world's policeman", all in pursuit of its own interests, and using the latest and constantly developing weapons of mass destruction.

The terrible genetic mutations in the offsprings of Vietnamese guerrillas and of American soldiers who fought in Vietnam in the '70s are equally terrible. "Agent Orange" has become a "time bomb" for several generations of Vietnamese and Americans.

Why is this happening? How do victims of American "democracy of mass destruction" live and fight for their rights today?

Author: Pavel Selin
Director: Denis Argutinskij

In this regard, I'd like to introduce a new term, to distinguish the perversion, imposed on the world by the United States from true Democracy - the rule of the people, as practices in Ancient Greece and in Russia - in Norvgorod Republic which existed between 1136 and 1478.

The new term, which I want to propose id: DEMOCRATISM - as destructive as most of the other "-ism"s.

Here is a (almost) complete list of the countries, where USA instilled (and I mean "instilled" and not "installed"!) or attempted to instil democratism:

1949 Greece
1952 Cuba
1953 Iran
1953 British Guyana
1954 Guatemala
1955 South Vietnam
1957 Haiti
1958 Laos
1960 South Korea
1960 Laos
1960 Ecuador.
1963 Dominican Republic
1963 South Vietnam
1963 Honduras
1963 Guatemala
1963 Ecuador.
1964 Brazil
1964 Bolivia
1965 Zaire.
1966 Ghana
1967 Greece
1970 Cambodia
1970 Bolivia
1972 El Salvador
1973 Chile
1979 South Korea (Pro-USA government wanted)
1980 Liberia
1982 Chad
1983 Grenada
1987 Fiji
1989 Panama
1991 Yugoslavia
1993 Russian Federation
1999 again Yugoslavia (Serbia & MN)
2001 Afghanistan
2002 Venezuela
2003 Iraq
2004 Haiti
2009 Honduras
2011 Libya
2011 Tunisia
2012-2015 Syria
2013 Egypt
2014 Ukraine

(List compiled by: Bryant Coleman @ Bitcointalk)

these documentaries are so educational and they must be aired on western tv channels..
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February 21, 2016, 11:59:28 PM
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Oh my god  Shocked

There's so many incorrect info in here, if I start quoting them, it will take me an hour  

Completely lost interest, it seems to be a typical russian, the west is bad documentary

It kind of annoys me how the ruskies always think the western media&goverment is a tool of control (which it is), but they fail to see they're the fucking same (even worse!) Cheesy

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Oh my god  Shocked

There's so many incorrect info in here, if I start quoting them, it will take me an hour 

Completely lost interest, it seems to be a typical russian, the west is bad documentary

It kind of annoys me how the ruskies always think the western media&goverment is a tool of control (which it is), but they fail to see they're the fucking same (even worse!) Cheesy


The moment of cognition would be the end of their corrupt system - that is why they have to concetrate on the west:
to show that it is much worst here ( homosexuals, refugees etc) then in the east (white power putin, no homos, christian etc.)

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Oh my god  Shocked

There's so many incorrect info in here, if I start quoting them, it will take me an hour 

Completely lost interest, it seems to be a typical russian, the west is bad documentary

It kind of annoys me how the ruskies always think the western media&goverment is a tool of control (which it is), but they fail to see they're the fucking same (even worse!) Cheesy


russians are not wrong.. western world manipulate media and any other resources to opress societies.. you should open your mind and look at this world differently please..
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russians are not wrong.. western world manipulate media and any other resources to opress societies.. you should open your mind and look at this world differently please..

of course they are

they just don't notice their media is the same as western media

which means their media did a good brainwashing job

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I very much doubt that they are the same. After all they pretty recently got out of a state system that was about as reliable as what we see in the west in corporate media. State owned the media, in the west corporations presently own the state and the media, that seems to be the difference.

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Just gonna point this out, made it on a quickie

As I said, this documentary should be ignored, it's filled with incorrect information, propaganda if I dare to say it.

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On November 21, 1995 world news agencies reported breaking news from the United States. At a military base in Dayton, the presidents of Serbia, Croatia and the leader of the Bosnian Muslims signed an agreement on cessation of the civil war in Bosnia and Herzegovina. In accordance with it, this part of the former Yugoslavia is now divided into the Muslim-Croat Federation and Republika Srpska (Serbian Republic). An international force under NATO command is deployed there to control the borders and to support the truce - only about 60,000 people, half of whom are Americans. The Serbs, who at that time controlled almost 75% of the territory of Bosnia and Herzegovina went to the serious concessions and agreed to keep only 49% of the territory. This was done for the sake of ending the civil war, which by that time virtually destroyed the former Yugoslavia.

Croatian Defence Council defended around 20% of Bosnia&Herzegovina, which would mean Muslims held only 5%  Roll Eyes Serbs made only 31% of the total population of Bosnia&Herzegovina.

In Dayton, President Clinton told reporters about the "key role" of Slobodan Milosevic in ending the civil war and call the Serbian president "guarantor of peace in the Balkans." Just a few years after these statements, Serbia will be subjected to crushing air strikes by the US and NATO, will lose Kosovo, while the "guarantor of peace" Slobodan Milosevic, will die under mysterious circumstances in a prison of the Hague Tribunal.

A country who did this complains about airstrikes?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JfX4GJBSI0g

Serbia has started an agression on 2 independent countries (+ conflicts in Slovenia),  when they started attacking a 3rd region, was the west supposed to let them kill innocent people once more?

Serbian forces entered Vukovar, lack of western action gave them the possibility to do a massacre, which they did.

After 4 years, a genocide was allowed to happen again in Srebrenica, 7000 - 10 000 innocent people were murdered only for being non-Serbs. It was bound to happen again, preventive actions with the attack on Kosovo saved thousands of Albanian lives.


Former Minister of Information of the Republic of Srpska, Miroslav Tohol, believes that the Dayton Accords were merely an intermediary for the strategic plans of the US and its allies to advance NATO eastward.

Close associate of war criminal Radovan Karadžić.

The civil war in Bosnia and Herzegovina was the most destructive military confrontation in Europe since World War II. Initially, the conflict was triggered by the unilateral decision of the Bosnian and Croatian deputies of the local parliament to secede from Yugoslavia. In doing so, they completely ignored the opinion of the Bosnian Serbs, who made up more then 31% of the population of this Yugoslav republic..


Serbian aggresion on Croatia started on 17th August 1990, while the referendum of independence was started on 19th May 1991
Almost a year later


In fact, it was hinted to the Bosnian Serbs that from now on they will have the role of a powerless minority in the new nationalist state of Bosnians and Croats. In response, Serbian communities began formation of their own government structures. European countries have tried to stop the development of the conflict by proposing a peace plan for the division of Bosnia and Herzegovina into territories, in which the governance is transferred to the ethnic majority. In the spring of 1992, the plan was approved and even signed by representatives of the three communities, but the unexpected intervention of the United States has destroyed all hopes for peace.

Powerless minority? Is the Czech, Hungarian, Polish, German minority powerless?
You mean they started a separatist movement?

No, Serbian agression on Croatia and BiH destroyed all hopes for peace, chetnik and yugoslav communist army crimes destroyed hopes for peace
The plan failed, because the Muslims withdrew their signature


The civil war in Bosnia and Herzegovina lasted for almost four years. As the result, one of the most beautiful and prosperous regions of Europe was completely destroyed and covered with blood.

Bosnia was one of the most underdeveloped parts of that ex communist country, Herzegovina is another thing, throughout the war it was held by Croatian Defense Council, there wasn't too much destruction as Serbs didn't find their way deep inside.

According to the official data, the war in Bosnia and Herzegovina took the lives of 100,000 people, according to unofficial - twice as much. Of the four and a half million inhabitants of the republic, almost three million have become refugees. The spilled rivers of blood have forever divided the lives of the two communities - Serb and Muslim-Croat.

Bosnia&Herzegovina has a population of 4 million


The bloody confrontation in Bosnia and Herzegovina was accompanied by all the horrors of the civil and religious wars - ethnic cleansing, secret concentration camps, brutal torture and mass rape. All the while, all the parties to the conflict once belonged to a single Slavic people, with a common language and culture. Separation into Catholics, Orthodox and Muslims was the result of five centuries of Ottoman rule, foreign invasions and the expansion of the Vatican City.

They never belonged to a singe slavic people. Croatia was a duchy since the 7th century, a kingdom from the 10th, a personal union since the 12th century
Serbia never held any part of Croatias modern day territory, the 2 countries didn't even border each other for most of history, since Vojvodina (border area), was never in the same country as Serbia until 1918 (fall of Austro-Hungary).
Separation into Catholics, Orthodox and Muslims was promoted by the Serbian Orthodox Church, claiming all Orthodox people are Serbian, which resulted in the assimilation of the orthodox Vlachs which the Ottomans settled in the military region.



Strange blindness and one-sidedness in the coverage of the conflict, according to Serbian analysts, was the result of an unprecedented information war that the Western countries have declared on the then Serbian leadership, because of their attempts to preserve a united Yugoslavia.


Preserve Yugoslavia by creating a Greater Serbia?
This was nothing about Yugoslavia, after Tito died, Serbs revived the plans of Great Serbia by chetnik Draža Mihailović
Serbian agression started nearly a year before any of the Ex-Yu countries declared independance
Western forces were still on the side of the chetniks&communists until war crimes&genocide started happening and they realized what was unleashed.


At the same time, the Western journalists were completely silent about the facts of participation in the war of thousands of Islamic terrorists from other countries on the side of the Bosnian units.

In addition to the information war, Western countries also declared an economic war on the Serbs. Tough sanctions were imposed on Serbia for support of the compatriots and assistance to refugees. The most defenceless categories of the population became their main victims - the elderly and children, but the international community for some reason didn't care about their fate.

Elderly and children? It has been proven that Serbs did 90+% of the war crimes in the 90s war.
Belgrade has the Yugoslav Peoples Army in their hands, while other countries such as Croatia had apsolutely no weapons (only police, and agricultural planes).
Western forces declared a weapons embargo on all ex- Yu countries, which literally gave away Croatia into the jaws of a well armed crime machine.


As a result, for the attempts to resist the destruction of Yugoslavia, the Serbs virtually ended up in the full economic, political and military blockade. The sanctions were not lifted, even when, in 1994, Milosevic had closed the border between Greater Serbia and the Republika Srpska in Bosnia, to demonstrate to the West the desire for peace. On the contrary, the pressure on Belgrade only intensified, and NATO aircraft started bombing the Bosnian Serbs.

Desire for peace by Slobodan Milošević, who started the bloody war  Roll Eyes

Despite the economic blockade and information pressure , the Bosnian Serbs have managed to defend the Republic and to turn the tide of the war imposed on them.By 1995 they controlled nearly 75% of the territory of Bosnia and Herzegovina. But, on Aug. 28, 1995 at the Sarajevo Markale market, a series of unexpected and mysterious explosions occurred. 37 civilians were killed, 90 people were injured. Just two or three minutes after crews of major Western broadcasters were working at the scene, saying that it was a mortar attack. By a strange coincidence, the explosions occurred on the eve of the meeting of the representatives of the US Secretary of State with the leader of the Bosnian Muslims Izetbegovic. The US and its allies immediately laid the responsibility for the tragedy on the Serbs, and already by August 30th NATO countries launched a military operation, codenamed "Deliberate Force".

Who else would attack Sarajevo? South Korea?

Division of Republika Srpska were subjected to powerful air strikes, which affected the civilian population.

Only after the war, independent experts and criminologists from European countries suggested that the explosion at the Markale is very similar to a carefully planned provocation. Its goal was to create a plausible pretext for open intervention of the United States and its NATO allies in the civil war in the Balkans.

Similar techniques were used against Belgrade in 1999
. Then, under the pretext of protecting the Albanian population in Kosovo, NATO aircraft for 11 straight weeks destroyed the infrastructure of Serbia, not sparing even schools and hospitals. As a result of this aggression, 2,500 Serbs were killed and 12,500 were wounded. For the first time since the Second World War, the US and its European allies, by using brute force, tore away Kosovo from Serbia, and changed the borders of an independent state.

Once again, after Vukovar, Ovčara, Srebrenica, it was clear the goal of Serbian nationalists was creating an ethnically cleansed country on the border of Ottoman invasion.
They could not allow another genocide happen in Kosovo.



The forces fuelling the Balkan conflict were clearly unfamiliar with the history of this region. According to the Serbs, they were forced to take up the arms not only encouraged the new aggressive reality, but also historical memory. Foreign political strategists clearly did not take into account that people, who could defend their right to live while under a multi-century long bloody occupation and genocide, will fight to the end.

They didn't take them into account was a smart call, considering 80 000 of them couldn't defeat 2000 defenders.
A will of a nation for freedom, is unbreakable, altough Serbs had all the military power in this world, they couldn't defeat the desire to be free  Smiley


Author and Director: Aleksej Denisov.

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