So it is December 12th and BFL hasn't delivered...big surprise

[smoothie]

Watch January BFL delivery turn into next June.  

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[PsychoticBoy]

Next June? How about NEVER 

[smoothie]

Next June? How about NEVER 

Probably much more accurate.

[live627]

It's like waiting for tomorrow that never comes.

[smoothie]

It's like waiting for tomorrow that never comes.

So much of their delaying reminds me of Bitcoinica, Pirate, and MNW.....just more Bullshit.

[bcpokey]

Was Dec 4th a deadline for something?

[Frizz23]

December 4th? Did they say which year? 

afaik December 11th is the day (when they get news from their Asian fab that fucks the over again and again).

[bbb8]

god help the people that actually ordered the hardware from those guys

[Martin666]

I am sure, we will find it out soon, if BFL is a SCAM or just a chaotic start up 

Confidence trick: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confidence_trick


just a matter of max a few months...

[Fcx35x10]

yaaaa cancel your preorders so i can get mines first

[creativex]

Yeah right after Avalon's second batch.

I'd have cancelled long ago if I had a BFL pre-order. Chips being respun to make them better, not because they're dysfunctional...right.

[Starlightbreaker]

Chips being respun to make them better, not because they're dysfunctional...right.

lol, people believed that?

[creativex]

I know...right? Just a little clock buffer tweaking and we'll have this thing purring like a kitten!

Mildred...get me my wrench!

[crazyates]

I can be cool too! See! See?!

[Gabi]

Waiting for Godot

Well, now it's waiting for BFL 

[smoothie]

How does BFL know that the manufacturer/fabricator of the chips won't just mine with them for their own profit?? Anyone thought about that?

Shit if I was the fabricator I would mass produce that shit and ....profit $$$ lol

[Uncurlhalo]

How does BFL know that the manufacturer/fabricator of the chips won't just mine with them for their own profit?? Anyone thought about that?

Shit if I was the fabricator I would mass produce that shit and ....profit $$$ lol

Because there are lots of types of chip fabs. Many of them only produce "chips" which lack all the external components needed to mine with. They probably order from that type of fab since they are doing assembly in house. Hence them buying pick and place equipment and other assembly equipment so they can just get chip shipments, then assemble them with boards made in house.

[creativex]

BFL is allegedly outsourcing the PCBs for their first batch. If they still officially have batches.

[smoothie]

How does BFL know that the manufacturer/fabricator of the chips won't just mine with them for their own profit?? Anyone thought about that?

Shit if I was the fabricator I would mass produce that shit and ....profit $$$ lol

Because there are lots of types of chip fabs. Many of them only produce "chips" which lack all the external components needed to mine with. They probably order from that type of fab since they are doing assembly in house. Hence them buying pick and place equipment and other assembly equipment so they can just get chip shipments, then assemble them with boards made in house.

but say a fab buys BFL products and reproduces them for pennies on the dollar and mine bitcoin to fuck?

[Jutarul]

kind of reminds me of the third law of the good ol' 3 newtons laws for graduation joke.
http://www.phdcomics.com/comics/archive.php?comicid=221

Here's an adapted version for BFL:
For every action towards production and shipment of the ASICs there is an equal and opposite excuse for the delay.

[ajareselde]

they say end of the worly is this december, so maybe thats whats delaying BFL from delivering.
cant say im surprised about their failiure to deliver, i dont expect anything to happen this year.

blah

[Blazr]

For every action towards production and shipment of the ASICs there is an equal and opposite excuse for the delay.

LOL. That's going in my sig.

[Badonkadonk]

wow, is it possible to get more threads like this?
its not like we have a crapload off them allready...

[creativex]

More delays = more threads. The bASIC delay threads are just getting revved up.

[crazyates]

More delays = more threads. The bASIC delay threads are just getting revved up.

Lol you feed on this frenzy, don't you?

[creativex]

I'm stressed, yeah it helps to discuss it.

[Korbman]

wow, is it possible to get more threads like this?

Sarcasm aside, ask and you shall receive 

[Chief Satangkai]

god help the people that actually ordered the hardware from those guys

I bet he's laughing his ass off!   I´m only in for a measly Jalapeno but still...   

[Unacceptable]

Don't worry guys,BFL will ensure ample time for more critizism & trolling...........I'm betting on it 

Seeing as I need to post once a day to try get a compensatory 30GH ASIC outta them,I'll be doing my part 

[Badonkadonk]

Don't worry guys,BFL will ensure ample time for more critizism & trolling...........I'm betting on it 

Seeing as I need to post once a day to try get a compensatory 30GH ASIC outta them,I'll be doing my part 

you mean that you acctualy have orders with bfl?

omg you have triggered the curse! the world will end!

everybuddy hed fur teh hills!

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or is it? 

[Unacceptable]

Don't worry guys,BFL will ensure ample time for more critizism & trolling...........I'm betting on it 

Seeing as I need to post once a day to try get a compensatory 30GH ASIC outta them,I'll be doing my part 

you mean that you acctualy have orders with bfl?

omg you have triggered the curse! the world will end!

everybuddy hed fur teh hills!

/sarcasm off





































or is it? 

Yes I do,stupid me believed someone when they said "We learned alot from our FPGA release & things will be different this time",yeah it's different alright,twice as long to wait,yep thats different alright 

[pazor]

people, people don't act as a crowd.

be patient, let them have a good christmas time and in the new year you can "crucify" them.
 

[repentance]

people, people don't act as a crowd.

be patient, let them have a good christmas time and in the new year you can "crucify" them.
 

I suspect that a few customers were foolishly relying on ASIC mining to fund their own Christmas and holidays and so aren't exactly full of goodwill towards BFL at this point.

[b!z]

21st December 2012 is when i think they will deliver

[Fcx35x10]

must have hope! still...

[creativex]

21st December 2012 is when i think they will deliver

Not a chance.

10 Dec 2012 BFL ASIC Update
After talking with our liaison tonight and still having not received a final confirmation date, we were as tired of this as everyone else is, so we continued to push for a date and they gave us 30 days from today. That's my update. It's an update I'm not happy about at this point and it may very well be that things will wrap up sooner than that. I am hoping I was just given a date that they would be sure to be ready by so we would get off their case. When pressed for a reason why, I have been told that because this is a very dense, hand routed design they are afraid of making a mistake and have required extra checking and sign offs which has slowed down the whole process considerably. They don't want to be on the hook financially for having to redo the whole order. It sounds reasonable to me and I have no reason to doubt this, but it doesn't make it any more palatable at the moment.

That said, after reviewing the new information coming out of the bASIC camp and the Avalon camp, I'm pretty convinced we won't see a shipping product on their current timelines either, or at least not a product that is at the specs they have given. Unless they have significant information they are not sharing in their released information so far, I suspect they are going to run into some of the same problems we have run into and have resolved, which has caused our delays. This does not excuse the fact that we are delayed again, by any means. I just want to point out that this process (developing ASICs) is not a trivial process and there are bound to be bumps in the road, which everyone, including us, are experiencing right now. Be that as it may, as usual we will gladly honor any refund requests on orders people have placed with BFL. If you wish to cancel your order and request a refund, please email office@butterflylabs.com with your order number and customer service will be happy to accommodate you.

I apologize for this new delay and I am exceptionally displeased at the moment (to put it mildly). I am hoping for better news at some point in the near future, but I am not counting on it right now. I don't have any additional information at this time; I have pushed for as much information as I could get and this is what I received so far. I'm afraid of running into the soup ASIC nazi.

[Korbman]

21st December 2012 is when i think they will deliver

"If Only, If Only," the Woodpecker sighs



EDIT: (for those of you unfamiliar with the reference, it's from the book "Holes" by Louis Sachar)

[greyscale]

butterfly labs sounds like a meth lab to me, no offence but I would never have trusted them with anything non drug related.

[Jutarul]

butterfly labs sounds like a meth lab to me, no offence but I would never have trusted them with anything non drug related.

[Badonkadonk]

butterfly labs sounds like a meth lab to me, no offence but I would never have trusted them with anything non drug related.

[HASS2WEB]

If i was anywhere BFL workshop i would love to have a little spy on them lol!!
Cant wait for my single i really hope it comes soon ;]