Why does paypal considered as scam attempt?

[Bought]

Not considered as a scam attempt. Just people are worried who they accept Paypal from, it is a known reversible payment method, therefore unsecure for sellers. I would suggest only accepting or using people from trusted or if trusted. Even if amount are infinite.

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[Amph]

i dunno they also a protection for the sellers, at least their policy said that, now i'm not using almost anymore paypal, because of the fee which is worse than charge back for me

but someone should investigate more on the protection for the buyers and seller about paypal, which is stronger

[HarHarHar9965]

Not considered as a scam attempt. Just people are worried who they accept Paypal from, it is a known reversible payment method, therefore unsecure for sellers. I would suggest only accepting or using people from trusted or if trusted. Even if amount are infinite.

To avoiding PayPal scams is not hard. To start with many of these scam emails are already filtered to your spam folder. If for some reason one escapes through the email.All you have to do is login to your Paypal account. The address bar doesn’t say paypal.com so be sure not to enter your login info means confirm the webpage is a scam and they said they currently have no such promotion. So be careful about this to avoid to getting scam.

[Spoetnik]

Chargeback from credit cards, scammers always find new ways to scam .

Yup this is legendary for eBay we all know.. classic scam.

Also i posted my email today i got late 2013 from Paypal..
They forbid all use of digital currency activity with their TOS.
When i google'd the email i got.. i found a guy here in 2012 who got the same email at this forum !

HOW ..

Are you guys still unaware that you are not allowed to do this (charge-back issue or not)

I think you all are simply ignoring the TOS ..no matter how many times you are TOLD.

EDIT:
By the way,
i had eBay internal network access when my Mom left her 2 inch thick manual on my table way back when she worked there.
When they hired her in BC, Canada she was the largest eBay seller in the west side of Canada and listed as a rep.
eBay / Paypal policy ?
I HAD the fucking manual in my god damn hands ROFL

[Zadicar]

i dunno they also a protection for the sellers, at least their policy said that, now i'm not using almost anymore paypal, because of the fee which is worse than charge back for me

but someone should investigate more on the protection for the buyers and seller about paypal, which is stronger

If the open Barzza can have a similar system to protect the buyer and seller, I will use bitcoin in that market. I shall not use Ebay and paypal.

[whizz94]

undocumented "official" policy

This week paypal have an opportunity to improve their procedures to handle properly and fairly sale of "digital or virtual goods and services".  Watch this space for news of whether or not they have got their act together yet.

[whizz94]

I said that I'd update you with paypal news.
This week a scammy seller got money off my paypal when I bought a nonexistant bitcoin which he advertised online.
 (indicating a change of policy : instead of automatically accepting bitcoin buyer chargebacks, Paypal did the opposite and put the payment through).
A week later and several complaints and a rather helpful paypal employee had looked at it and decided that perhaps I hadn't received the bitcoin and that the seller looked suss.  No indication yet of them working out how to look up a disputed bitcoin transmission on blockchain.info so please do remind them of the public record of the blockchain if anyone else has paypal errors to sort out.

[bob123]

Hi guys,
I would like to share my thoughts about paypal..
From what i understand, there are 2 ways to send money through paypal.
First is as goods and services.
Second is as "transfer money to a friend or family"
Transering money as goods and services gives the sender the ability to take back the money with the excuse that the item or service is nos as described. Ideal for scammers..
Transfering money to a friend or family does not give you that option. So why nobody wants to trade like that? Why everytime someone even mentions paypal, he is accused as a scammer?

Family/Friend still can be reversed with claiming unauthorized use of account or something like that.

[Supercrypt]

Not considered as a scam attempt. Just people are worried who they accept Paypal from, it is a known reversible payment method, therefore unsecure for sellers. I would suggest only accepting or using people from trusted or if trusted. Even if amount are infinite.

Agree with you friend PayPal is safe online payment system. I have used it from past years without facing any type of problem. Yes I think they provide special protection against fraud and if they found any suspicions then they want proper proof but mostly people treat them scam because PayPal won't allow them to do illegal activities.

[nikelad]

Not considered as a scam attempt. Just people are worried who they accept Paypal from, it is a known reversible payment method, therefore unsecure for sellers. I would suggest only accepting or using people from trusted or if trusted. Even if amount are infinite.

Agree with you friend PayPal is safe online payment system. I have used it from past years without facing any type of problem. Yes I think they provide special protection against fraud and if they found any suspicions then they want proper proof but mostly people treat them scam because PayPal won't allow them to do illegal activities.

It is true for most cases.But PayPal have too much restrictions and the verification processes are really headache for some ppl. But I can say if you follow their rules, you won't have any problem. They have very good service and custmer support.

[enhu]

Hi guys,
I would like to share my thoughts about paypal..
From what i understand, there are 2 ways to send money through paypal.
First is as goods and services.
Second is as "transfer money to a friend or family"
Transering money as goods and services gives the sender the ability to take back the money with the excuse that the item or service is nos as described. Ideal for scammers..
Transfering money to a friend or family does not give you that option. So why nobody wants to trade like that? Why everytime someone even mentions paypal, he is accused as a scammer?

if paypal provide an option before accepting the money, it may have been safer. lets say i got a money from you and i saw that you send it as a gift from a relative, then i can safely receive it. but if its send in exchange of goods/services, i may have the option to say no. unfortunately they don't offer such.

[Zocadas]

Not considered as a scam attempt. Just people are worried who they accept Paypal from, it is a known reversible payment method, therefore unsecure for sellers. I would suggest only accepting or using people from trusted or if trusted. Even if amount are infinite.

Agree with you friend PayPal is safe online payment system. I have used it from past years without facing any type of problem. Yes I think they provide special protection against fraud and if they found any suspicions then they want proper proof but mostly people treat them scam because PayPal won't allow them to do illegal activities.

It is true for most cases.But PayPal have too much restrictions and the verification processes are really headache for some ppl. But I can say if you follow their rules, you won't have any problem. They have very good service and custmer support.

The big problem with PayPal in connection with Bitcoin is the following: Not PayPal itself is the problem, but the danger exists that it can be used by scammers. Bitcoin transactions can not be undone, but PayPal payments. If you accept PayPal for the exchange of Bitcoins, you must ensure that it is not a hacked PayPal account, that you deal with or that it is not an account of a scammer, whose bank account doesn't cover the purchasing amount.

[davinchi]

PayPal allows chargebacks for every transaction whether it's for goods or gifts and people have succeeded in getting their money back and scamming. Users say that goods & services payment cannot be charged back if a user claims that the good was a digital one. However, PayPal is the weakest form of payment and hence it's considered a scam attempt.

[avw1982]

PayPal allows chargebacks for every transaction whether it's for goods or gifts and people have succeeded in getting their money back and scamming. Users say that goods & services payment cannot be charged back if a user claims that the good was a digital one. However, PayPal is the weakest form of payment and hence it's considered a scam attempt.

I would agree but many Fake PayPal websites are an extension of fake emails, and are usually linked to within these emails. A fake PayPal website can look identical to the real PayPal, but when you try to log in, it will simply steal your username and password. Even if you have gone ahead and clicked a link in an email, not all is lost. Unless the website you reached contains malicious scripts, you can still escape the scam.

[maokoto]

Made me remember one time when someone send me money by paypal as a donation for helping him (without me asking for money, he asked for my paypal address) then, after 2-3 days, he made a chargeback lol.

It was only about 5$...

[Laosai]

I find it very odd...

Why and how are people using Paypal then? I mean if you can reverse any payment just by filling a complaint about wrongly used card, I can go directly buy a new HD tv no?

There should be other elements I'm missing I guess, otherwise Paypal isn't a reliable way of transferring money.

[tommorisonwebdesign]

I find it very odd...

Why and how are people using Paypal then? I mean if you can reverse any payment just by filling a complaint about wrongly used card, I can go directly buy a new HD tv no?

There should be other elements I'm missing I guess, otherwise Paypal isn't a reliable way of transferring money.

PayPal is afraid of Bitcoin and the blockchain technology. That's why PayPal always rules in favor of the buyer/scammer. Charge backs are a necessity sometimes. If you're dealing with a shady business it's best to use PayPal or a credit card. Bitcoin doesn't have charge back because of the many scammers out there. The more options there the better.

[Laosai]

I find it very odd...

Why and how are people using Paypal then? I mean if you can reverse any payment just by filling a complaint about wrongly used card, I can go directly buy a new HD tv no?

There should be other elements I'm missing I guess, otherwise Paypal isn't a reliable way of transferring money.

PayPal is afraid of Bitcoin and the blockchain technology. That's why PayPal always rules in favor of the buyer/scammer. Charge backs are a necessity sometimes. If you're dealing with a shady business it's best to use PayPal or a credit card. Bitcoin doesn't have charge back because of the many scammers out there. The more options there the better.

Makes sense.
It's always better to have to way of exchanging your value. One is fast and secured but not reversible, the other might be reversible.
It allows Paypal to have a true interest and to really answer a need of the consumers ^^

[darewaller]

I find it very odd...

Why and how are people using Paypal then? I mean if you can reverse any payment just by filling a complaint about wrongly used card, I can go directly buy a new HD tv no?

There should be other elements I'm missing I guess, otherwise Paypal isn't a reliable way of transferring money.

PayPal is afraid of Bitcoin and the blockchain technology. That's why PayPal always rules in favor of the buyer/scammer. Charge backs are a necessity sometimes. If you're dealing with a shady business it's best to use PayPal or a credit card. Bitcoin doesn't have charge back because of the many scammers out there. The more options there the better.

PayPal doesn't even allow some countries to send and receive funds. Does it mean PP is scared of those countries? I doubt your reason is valid but I do agree that PayPal aren't quite happy with bitcoins as they are competition for them.

[Supercrypt]

I find it very odd...

Why and how are people using Paypal then? I mean if you can reverse any payment just by filling a complaint about wrongly used card, I can go directly buy a new HD tv no?

There should be other elements I'm missing I guess, otherwise Paypal isn't a reliable way of transferring money.

PayPal is afraid of Bitcoin and the blockchain technology. That's why PayPal always rules in favor of the buyer/scammer. Charge backs are a necessity sometimes. If you're dealing with a shady business it's best to use PayPal or a credit card. Bitcoin doesn't have charge back because of the many scammers out there. The more options there the better.

Not true. PayPal doesn't allow any money exchanges and they limit account if found users dealing in digital currency / other payment processors like perfect money and so on. Their TOS are very strict and hence many users make such trades
without adding a note in the transaction to make it almost impossible for PayPal to track the transactions. Earlier they had issues with Liberty Reserve as well.