How New World Order will implode

[abs350]

The new world order develops quite gradually. Revolution is not the best way to change the world and often detracted from the development below. World is going to hell in a handbasket but I would like to speed was smaller

Maybe revolution is the wrong word. Just a change of the current system.

Everyone knows its an unfair system that hugely rewards a few at the expense of everyone else.

I think it will take economic bad news to create a good environment in which the government can be overthrown. As the economy gets worse people will become more critical of the ruling elite and questioning it more.

The elite have now created a situation from where they cannot escape. As an ordinary person I dont think we should be afraid of the future. The world is not going to hell in a  handbasket. You dont realize how much the global elite class are sucking from the system and how much better things could be.

Life will carry on despite the government collapsing. You shouldn't be afraid for the future unless you are part of the ruling class.


PS. By 'elite' I am taking aim not just at the politicians but also the people who put them their. The people with real power and influence lie beyond the headlines in a rather secretive world. They are the people who are really to blame for everything. However the polticians certainly arent blameless. By playing along with the system they also are part of the problem.

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[pitham1]

The concept of nation state is pretty new... only a few centuries old.
We could see the end of the international currency, as well as nation states when a new world order takes shape. 

[manselr]

I have been hoping for a dollar collapse for years but it seems like the thing can go on even after being dead like a zombie. As long as people accept the dollar worldwide, it will have value even if the hyperinflation is insane, so we'll see.

[Snorek]

Its almost Christmas and each day that passes I'm becoming more optimistic. The stock market is crashing, oil price is crashing, China is crashing. Gold is going up, bitcoin is finally going up.
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If you think that bitcoin will remain the only sunny island in the middle of the ocean you might be wrong. Bitcoin is not separated from problems of economic markets being one of the assets itself.
Huge stock market crash will most likely cause bitcoin price to drop as well. In times of crisis the best options are commodities like gold, silver and real estate market imo.

[troleybüs]

My question to you: when the end comes and the governments of the west - that hold us in slavery to debt caused by previous generation - that have hyjacked our economies with a huge asset bubble - finally come to an end, how will it happen? What scenarios can you see? How will the governments fall? How will the revolution happen?

It won't happen until one nation comes. When we have robot slaves, we don't need much labor, then we don't have so much money. Everybody don't have to work. We do what we want. We don't need dollar or gold, we have better things then. Even Bitcoin is not needed. This will happen before 2140.

[Snail2]

Its almost Christmas and each day that passes I'm becoming more optimistic. The stock market is crashing, oil price is crashing, China is crashing. Gold is going up, bitcoin is finally going up. Friends, its clear now the new world order is coming to a close. In just a few years its possible we may have the ending of the western new world order that we have all been waiting for: hyperinflation boom-bust followed by revolution.

My question to you: when the end comes and the governments of the west - that hold us in slavery to debt caused by previous generation - that have hyjacked our economies with a huge asset bubble - finally come to an end, how will it happen? What scenarios can you see? How will the governments fall? How will the revolution happen?

Let's imagine how things will change and get ourselves into a positive mindset to keep going.

Bitcoin isn't standing alone outside of the problems of the fiat world and it's not a ticket to safety and prosperity. As there are no real bitcoin economy you can't buy all sorts of stuff with BTC, you can't pay bills with BTC. You need fiat. Crypto and fiat is inseparable at this time. If fiat struggles that means the whole economy struggles. In a struggling economy bitcoin might became to a solid store of value at some point, but most likely precious metals will be the first option for the majority.

[mixan]

When i last checked the bitcoin price was crashing too, Unless things have changed and we are back on uptrend.

People are saying it is crashing but I say it is mini crash. If the numbers fall right for sale today then it should be back to $475 by Sunday and then back on track to that $500 mark that everybody is yearning for since two years ago.

[Kalder]

When i last checked the bitcoin price was crashing too, Unless things have changed and we are back on uptrend.

People are saying it is crashing but I say it is mini crash. If the numbers fall right for sale today then it should be back to $475 by Sunday and then back on track to that $500 mark that everybody is yearning for since two years ago.

There is no need for bitcoin to reach $500 by the end of year. The price has risen a lot already.

[pitham1]

Its almost Christmas and each day that passes I'm becoming more optimistic. The stock market is crashing, oil price is crashing, China is crashing. Gold is going up, bitcoin is finally going up.
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If you think that bitcoin will remain the only sunny island in the middle of the ocean you might be wrong. Bitcoin is not separated from problems of economic markets being one of the assets itself.
Huge stock market crash will most likely cause bitcoin price to drop as well. In times of crisis the best options are commodities like gold, silver and real estate market imo.

Bitcoin is treated as a commodity and hence it may crash with other asset classes. I am not sure real estate will do well in times of crisis. Real estate was one of the biggest losers during the sub-prime crisis. 

[Gasturcas]

Its almost Christmas and each day that passes I'm becoming more optimistic. The stock market is crashing, oil price is crashing, China is crashing. Gold is going up, bitcoin is finally going up.
-snip-

If you think that bitcoin will remain the only sunny island in the middle of the ocean you might be wrong. Bitcoin is not separated from problems of economic markets being one of the assets itself.
Huge stock market crash will most likely cause bitcoin price to drop as well. In times of crisis the best options are commodities like gold, silver and real estate market imo.

Bitcoin is treated as a commodity and hence it may crash with other asset classes. I am not sure real estate will do well in times of crisis. Real estate was one of the biggest losers during the sub-prime crisis.  

It is treated as commodity for tax reasons in the US. But it is actually a currency. So its value might not drop like other commodities such as oil and copper.

[virtualx]

My question to you: when the end comes and the governments of the west - that hold us in slavery to debt caused by previous generation - that have hyjacked our economies with a huge asset bubble - finally come to an end, how will it happen? What scenarios can you see? How will the governments fall? How will the revolution happen?

It won't happen until one nation comes. When we have robot slaves, we don't need much labor, then we don't have so much money. Everybody don't have to work. We do what we want. We don't need dollar or gold, we have better things then. Even Bitcoin is not needed. This will happen before 2140.

I think this will happen after 2140 because robots are very primitive today.Even if robots could do all work we don't have solved the problem of scarcity yet.

[Yakamoto]

Its almost Christmas and each day that passes I'm becoming more optimistic. The stock market is crashing, oil price is crashing, China is crashing. Gold is going up, bitcoin is finally going up.
-snip-

If you think that bitcoin will remain the only sunny island in the middle of the ocean you might be wrong. Bitcoin is not separated from problems of economic markets being one of the assets itself.
Huge stock market crash will most likely cause bitcoin price to drop as well. In times of crisis the best options are commodities like gold, silver and real estate market imo.

Bitcoin is treated as a commodity and hence it may crash with other asset classes. I am not sure real estate will do well in times of crisis. Real estate was one of the biggest losers during the sub-prime crisis. 

The thing is, though, that it will crash if people have to liquidate it in order to pay for other things that require fiat.

However, the difference between Bitcoin and other assets is that Bitcoin is easily transact-able, and thus fits the definition of a currency rather than a commodity.

It all depends on what Bitcoin users' priorities are. It may crash, it may go up.

[x13]

1) US-stock market ist not crashing. It it just a temporary correction after the Fed decision to increase the interest.

2) Oil price is crashing not because of the low demand, but for the unusual high offer caused by the oil war between Saudi-Arabia and USA.

3) China is not crashing, too. The official numbers are very likely not correct but the economy should grow still by 4-6% a year. Even if the growth should fall, the Chinese government has got enough munition to fire the economy. Do not forget that the national bank interest is at around 5% and the foreign currency reserves are at almost 2 trillion $.

[countryfree]

Friends, its clear now the new world order is coming to a close.

Correction, the old world order is coming to a close and a new one is emerging, but it has always been like that.
300 years ago, France and the UK were ruling the world. 2,000 years ago, Imperial Rome was way above everything else. And the Egyptians 2,000 years before that. At the end of the century, I don't much like it, but China may rule the world. It's always changing. That's normal.

[jaysabi]

My sig campaign has nothing to do with this, that's a poor argument when you don't have an argument. Those stocks you listed are all american companies and then you go and tell me the recession is happening in europe. If you look at the dow jones industrial average, we are near in all time high.  Where is this recession you're talking about?

Every time someone quotes the DJIA as being representative of the economy, I die a little inside. While your point is correct (the economy is fairly healthy), citing the DJIA is a horrible data point. It's not representative of the American economy, and it is only still mentioned as a holdover from an era when it was. (It was invented at a time when financial reporting was very simplistic and superficial.) The S&P 500 is a much better metric to use, as it encompasses 500 of the most representative companies of the American economy, and it is also weighted by size of the company, where DJIA is only 30 companies that are not weighted by size and are not representative of what the economy produces as a whole.

I can't stress enough what a terrible metric it is.

[OROBTC]

My sig campaign has nothing to do with this, that's a poor argument when you don't have an argument. Those stocks you listed are all american companies and then you go and tell me the recession is happening in europe. If you look at the dow jones industrial average, we are near in all time high.  Where is this recession you're talking about?

Every time someone quotes the DJIA as being representative of the economy, I die a little inside. While your point is correct (the economy is fairly healthy), citing the DJIA is a horrible data point. It's not representative of the American economy, and it is only still mentioned as a holdover from an era when it was. (It was invented at a time when financial reporting was very simplistic and superficial.) The S&P 500 is a much better metric to use, as it encompasses 500 of the most representative companies of the American economy, and it is also weighted by size of the company, where DJIA is only 30 companies that are not weighted by size and are not representative of what the economy produces as a whole.

I can't stress enough what a terrible metric it is.

Nick Barisheff, a Canadian author, wrote in his book $10,000 Gold (2013) that the price of platinum is the best leading indicator of price inflation and deflation.  OK, it is just ONE indicator, but he cites a study showing this, some group out of Boston.

Platinum is now around $885 per ounce, way off its highs, and down a lot even vs. gold.  Normally, Pt sells at a premium to gold, typically 5% to 20%.  It is now around a 20% DISCOUNT.

Again, this is is but one indicator, but it does match the price decline in crude oil.  A DEFLATION (perhaps soon followed by a hyperinflation) might just cook the NWO...

Yes, those are flashing red lights, why almost like they are ringing a bell...  Beware.

[suda123]

My sig campaign has nothing to do with this, that's a poor argument when you don't have an argument. Those stocks you listed are all american companies and then you go and tell me the recession is happening in europe. If you look at the dow jones industrial average, we are near in all time high.  Where is this recession you're talking about?

Every time someone quotes the DJIA as being representative of the economy, I die a little inside. While your point is correct (the economy is fairly healthy), citing the DJIA is a horrible data point. It's not representative of the American economy, and it is only still mentioned as a holdover from an era when it was. (It was invented at a time when financial reporting was very simplistic and superficial.) The S&P 500 is a much better metric to use, as it encompasses 500 of the most representative companies of the American economy, and it is also weighted by size of the company, where DJIA is only 30 companies that are not weighted by size and are not representative of what the economy produces as a whole.

I can't stress enough what a terrible metric it is.

Nick Barisheff, a Canadian author, wrote in his book $10,000 Gold (2013) that the price of platinum is the best leading indicator of price inflation and deflation.  OK, it is just ONE indicator, but he cites a study showing this, some group out of Boston.

Platinum is now around $885 per ounce, way off its highs, and down a lot even vs. gold.  Normally, Pt sells at a premium to gold, typically 5% to 20%.  It is now around a 20% DISCOUNT.

Again, this is is but one indicator, but it does match the price decline in crude oil.  A DEFLATION (perhaps soon followed by a hyperinflation) might just cook the NWO...

Yes, those are flashing red lights, why almost like they are ringing a bell...  Beware.
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*might just cook the NWO*

[suda123]

My sig campaign has nothing to do with this, that's a poor argument when you don't have an argument. Those stocks you listed are all american companies and then you go and tell me the recession is happening in europe. If you look at the dow jones industrial average, we are near in all time high.  Where is this recession you're talking about?

Every time someone quotes the DJIA as being representative of the economy, I die a little inside. While your point is correct (the economy is fairly healthy), citing the DJIA is a horrible data point. It's not representative of the American economy, and it is only still mentioned as a holdover from an era when it was. (It was invented at a time when financial reporting was very simplistic and superficial.) The S&P 500 is a much better metric to use, as it encompasses 500 of the most representative companies of the American economy, and it is also weighted by size of the company, where DJIA is only 30 companies that are not weighted by size and are not representative of what the economy produces as a whole.

I can't stress enough what a terrible metric it is.

Naw what I mean is were going into a paradigm shift, there dropping because consumers don't consume anymore in the new generations in western civilization *to much smart phones internetz*.

Millennials don't consume, western civilization made crap like, buy diamond rings, or X holiday thanks giving,christmas valentines day, Buy and consume these annually every month trending.

THe statistics though manipulated will fall regardless of the coming paradigm shift into the digital age with digital assets.

Which means the wealth transfer never destroyed is going into other investments, and were sitting right here in the biggest core infrastructure of what it's going to be built around with the emerging e-commerce and this new age obsessed with speed.

Stagnated/suppressed technology and innovations are exploding now at a faster pace never seen before since it's capitalizing on the cycle of a global reset in the financial industry.

The apple business model is losing it's hype now, re buying new phone  version 1,2,3,3s,420,a,b,c,a1. Not only that it's not like people have the money to buy these new products anyways with or without an economic collapse.

The rich oil families of the saudis are getting facerolled by the US tanking with 30$ oil now.

[OROBTC]

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suda123

If enough people suffer under a recession (or worse), and it can be pinned on the machinations of a New World Order, then the people might reject such policies (unlimited immigration, bank bailouts, dissolution of borders, phony "new" education paradigms, higher taxes, etc.).

The NWO, as I understand it, depends on the abilities of The Elites to impose such ideas upon us.

Maybe it is America that will reject the NWO, we have guns here...  Such elites are not particularly popular around here.

Although France has shown that when pushed far, they can react (not always), one way THEY might react vs. the NWO is to expel Muslims......

The NWO also needs money, lots of money.  Maybe we can Starve the Beast as well.

[bit1]

Its almost Christmas and each day that passes I'm becoming more optimistic. The stock market is crashing, oil price is crashing, China is crashing. Gold is going up, bitcoin is finally going up. Friends, its clear now the new world order is coming to a close. In just a few years its possible we may have the ending of the western new world order that we have all been waiting for: hyperinflation boom-bust followed by revolution.

My question to you: when the end comes and the governments of the west - that hold us in slavery to debt caused by previous generation - that have hyjacked our economies with a huge asset bubble - finally come to an end, how will it happen? What scenarios can you see? How will the governments fall? How will the revolution happen?

Let's imagine how things will change and get ourselves into a positive mindset to keep going.

I wonder how many events that can be called NWO have  been on the history, Oil price was crashing many times on the history, Economics problems there have been throughout history too, And perhaps many new events will continue to occur that people can call that way NWO. There are those who associate Bitcoin with NWO but if that were so then entire Internet rather fits in this concept. Maybe later will be the robotics field,
IA, Quantum computing. So each generation has had, has or will have to face their problems concerning to NWO between those in power and those who are governed and that certainly are  very diverse and varied in each country.