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Question: Should BFL get a Scammer tag?
Yes, I smell a rat - 105 (68.2%)
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December 17, 2012, 02:18:04 AM
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Reminder that up until now everything has happened exactly as predicted by myself on December 3rd

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- Finally understanding how Asian fabs work, BFL raises their order from 20000 chips to 100000 to bump up their place in the production queue.
 - Fab decides they finally have time for that weirdo BFL company to do their miniscule run on the 11th. This is under provision no big orders from LG come in in the mean time because boy that Nexus 4 is selling like hotcakes. If that happens BFLs run is gonna be pushed back to "whenever".
 - Assuming the 11th happens and the run actually starts, you can add about 4-5 weeks for production of these things.
 - On 21st of December the world ends
 - In the middle of January the chips are finished. Inaba decides to hop in a plane and fly over to the fab to hand receive the chips. Turns out, all planes crashed during the end of the world. Instead the chips are shipped over to 'merica by boat.
 - Middle of March the chips finally arrive in what is now called the Independent State of California. Customs officials hold what they assume to be weapons grade military devices until the end of the war with Texas finally ends in a stalemate.
- 2015: ASICs arrive at BFL studios (a subsidiary of bAvalon International). No one knows what to do with them because all bitcoins were wiped out by the EMP pulse from Planet Rth'Nag'Ar.
- 2016: bAvalon strings the chips up on metal bars to produce a first-of-its-kind mathematics device they call The Abacus.

I still think the misunderstood people's of Rth'Nag'Ar are only in this to help us turn the tables on the lizard humanoids from hollow Earth.

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December 17, 2012, 08:11:22 AM
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Plainly, the answer is yes. BFL has lied about shipping dates for months and they're still lying. They're still painting rosey pictures of their shipping plans and attempting to shift blame for the delays to an unaccountable fab. This has been done to lure in pre-orders away from other manufacturers that are actually much nearer to shipping products.

To be clear I still expect BFL to ship products, but the ROI for those recipients will be much longer than originally projected and there is an ever increasing risk that this company will run off with the funds or be forced into insolvency.

Naw, why rush it? Let January come and go, then February, then March...why drop the hammer too soon? Let them squirm moar. There's a reason only unresponsive scammers get tags here, and that reason is we need the drama; we're backing Bitcoin with it.

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January 11, 2013, 12:02:23 PM
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Here you see how scammers behave: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UlWrmIqGs3Y#t=02m22s

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January 11, 2013, 07:04:59 PM
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Here you see how scammers behave: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UlWrmIqGs3Y#t=02m22s

Here's one where an author has put-off his pre-order customers for three years by telling them that he's waiting for the commodity price of paper and ink to stabilize so that he can finally send the manuscript to the the printers. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8yDezLh76Bk

Luckily, sand is not a commodity.
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January 12, 2013, 02:54:31 AM
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when did bfl first start pre-orders?

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January 12, 2013, 06:30:29 AM
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I told that Pirateat40 way of doing business reminds pyramid and confidence scam. Not everyone listened.

I told that BFL is scam months ago. Most of users here told I was wrong.

I also sell that all other ASIC "manufacturers" are in fact BFL shills. This is so well planned out and it goes so well that Pirate will look small compared to BFL.

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January 12, 2013, 11:45:18 AM
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when did bfl first start pre-orders?

June 2012.

See https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=87934.msg966882#msg966882

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January 12, 2013, 05:09:26 PM
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Does BFL truly have $25 MILLION in pre orders?

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January 13, 2013, 03:07:39 AM
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is this really the SC



missed the memo where they released images. also looked like the CES backdrop with bitpay had images of the new SC line too

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January 13, 2013, 03:41:54 AM
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is this really the SC


It really is the 3D rendering of SC. It does not prove they have them, in fact it proves the opposite.

Look, I have 3D rendering of Aurora bomber! Anyone want to preorder them?


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January 13, 2013, 04:08:13 AM
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Please use PGP and encrypt your messages if you're going to sell military hardware.

Also, I assume you ship freight?

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January 13, 2013, 04:24:08 AM
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The problem is that single Aurora bomber in basic configuration costs 35 million Bitcoins.

You probably might be interested in scaled-down version called Penilino. It is single-seat version capable of carrying single Hellfire missile or 500Kg of cocaine.

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January 13, 2013, 05:12:57 AM
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Ah, I see, then I'll just hoard and wait for the value of BTC to randomly explode.



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February 26, 2013, 10:05:43 PM
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February 26, 2013, 10:22:52 PM
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bump

Hah, this thread got bumped more than a BFL wafer.
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February 27, 2013, 05:31:04 PM
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What the hell is BFL? I keep seeing it mentioned around the forums

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February 27, 2013, 05:52:53 PM
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What the hell is BFL? I keep seeing it mentioned around the forums

Butterfly Labs = vaporware vendor.

http://www.butterflylabs.com/


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February 27, 2013, 05:59:29 PM
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Does BFL truly have $25 MILLION in pre orders?

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February 27, 2013, 06:02:27 PM
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You probably might be interested in scaled-down version called Penilino. It is single-seat version capable of carrying single Hellfire missile or 500Kg of cocaine.

What a choice! Does it come with leather seats and air-con?

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February 27, 2013, 06:19:35 PM
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Does BFL truly have $25 MILLION in pre orders?

Micon pulled that number from.... somewhere no one knows. And Internet being what it is it keeps getting repeated. I'd seriously doubt they reached 10% of that number. Note that my guesstimate is pulled from .... somewhere no one should want to know..
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