PRESSURE BFL TO WORK FASTER

[61197da925c1]

Can we all agree to send emails and call them about our 2-3 month late BFL ASIC units?

I'm sure it will place pressure on them if we all did it en masse?

I can't believe the lard asses even considered having a Christmas party considering how late they were.

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[SgtSpike]

There's not much they can do if they are waiting on the chip foundry.

[modcom]

Seems like a waste of time.

If your not happy waiting, you could just request your refund. That would show them you were serious.

It would bump my place in line, maybe

From Jody's Blog

"Josh posted last night the most recent update about our ASIC chip. As we have been gearing up to get the first products out this month, the chip foundry is still tweaking. This delays our ship date until after the holidays. Now our families will have the burden of having us all at home to celebrate with them. We are trying not to be discouraged. If we have extended our date beyond your ability to stick with us, we at Customer Service are ready to refund money for those who want to get out of the line. "

[61197da925c1]

That's your opinion.

And of course it works, the only other course of action is to sue.

Try not to speak to me without proper legal advice.

[MrTeal]

Try not to speak to me without proper legal advice.

LOL...

[modcom]

U Funny. I'll say what I like.

EDIT: I called my Lawyer, He said you can go F*** Yourself

[greyhawk]

That's your opinion.

And of course it works, the only other course of action is to sue.

You can not break the laws of physics no matter how many emails you send to BFL.

If the masks are not done (and this is what this looks like) then the laws of physics dictate that you will have to wait another 30 days for the chips to be done.

Actually you will very likely have to wait even longer then that, way longer, but please don't read this sentence, as I don't want to make you sad so shortly before Christmas.

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Alright,

So I called up my lawyer for you and he said you can do nothing legally against them and it's very very clearly stated you can just get a refund whenever you want.. So do that.

Otherwise, they aren't a big box american retailer so they give 0 f*cks about you

[creativex]

Where is it very very clearly stated that you can get a refund whenever you want?

[61197da925c1]

shut the fuck up moronic american freaks of nature

OF COURSE I CAN SUE, there are laws against promising to deliver something on a specific date and not delivering on time, and especially about being months late, RETARDS. and nobody gives a fuck if they care or not, I'm still going to get my money's worth for their fuck ups.

[creativex]

He/she needs cranberry juice...NOW!

[greyhawk]

Now that's not very nice calling me an American. Where do they teach you these words anyway?

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@creativex seem you can't read the third post..

From Jody's Blog

"Josh posted last night the most recent update about our ASIC chip. As we have been gearing up to get the first products out this month, the chip foundry is still tweaking. This delays our ship date until after the holidays. Now our families will have the burden of having us all at home to celebrate with them. We are trying not to be discouraged. If we have extended our date beyond your ability to stick with us, we at Customer Service are ready to refund money for those who want to get out of the line. "

and no you can't sue. When you pre-ordered at no point did they say "on December 2nd you will have you device in your hand" get your head of your ass. Games, cars, movies, cell phones... god damn everything gets delayed for various reasons. So stop being a worthless piece of shit to humanity and get your refund if you're unhappy other GFTO



--- on an mostly unrelated note.. pretty sure most of us aren't american.

[creativex]

@creativex seem you can't read the third post..

I've seen the BFL sockpuppet posts. They're completely meaningless when they contradict official BFL policy. You ARE aware of BFL official refund policy are you not? ...do you really believe that BFL_Jody<insert random name here>'s forum posts legally trump BFL's own policy faq?

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@creativex seem you can't read the third post..

I've seen the BFL sockpuppet posts. They're completely meaningless when they contradict official BFL policy. You ARE aware of BFL official refund policy are you not? ...do you really believe that BFL_Jody<insert random name here>'s forum posts legally trump BFL's own policy faq?

Having been reading their forums for about a month.. It seems everyone that requests a refund gets it.

I have seen the refund policy posted on their main website which makes it confusing.. but if you're complaining here.. chances are you've taken a look at their forums that say you can get a refund whenever.. So if the OP bothered at all he could get his refund.

[creativex]

Yep, refunds are working just fine...for now, but official policy can be enforced at any time, and official policy is no refunds until January 1, 2013. I find that generally when things are more confusing than they need to be there's a reason for it.

[Aahzman]

shut the fuck up moronic american freaks of nature

OF COURSE I CAN SUE, there are laws against promising to deliver something on a specific date and not delivering on time, and especially about being months late, RETARDS. and nobody gives a fuck if they care or not, I'm still going to get my money's worth for their fuck ups.

My lawyer advised me to advise you to wash the sand out of your vagina, woman.

[elux]

@creativex seem you can't read the third post..

and no you can't sue. When you pre-ordered at no point did they say "on December 2nd you will have you device in your hand" get your head of your ass. Games, cars, movies, cell phones... god damn everything gets delayed for various reasons. So stop being a worthless piece of shit to humanity and get your refund if you're unhappy other GFTO

Inaba Junior? 

[SgtSpike]

@creativex seem you can't read the third post..

I've seen the BFL sockpuppet posts. They're completely meaningless when they contradict official BFL policy. You ARE aware of BFL official refund policy are you not? ...do you really believe that BFL_Jody<insert random name here>'s forum posts legally trump BFL's own policy faq?

Having been reading their forums for about a month.. It seems everyone that requests a refund gets it.

I have seen the refund policy posted on their main website which makes it confusing.. but if you're complaining here.. chances are you've taken a look at their forums that say you can get a refund whenever.. So if the OP bothered at all he could get his refund.

Bottom line is, the official policy on refunds stands.  For now, they are issuing refunds to everyone who asks.  But Josh made it clear that they can choose to revert back to the official policy at any time and stop issuing refunds.  Of course, whether a court of law would let them get away with that is a whole 'nother story. 

[Chief Satangkai]

shut the fuck up moronic american freaks of nature

Go smoke a f´king peace pipe, man!  

[Code_red]

Anyone think any other manufacturers will beat BFL to the asic prize?

[creativex]

Only Avalon, BTCFPGA, & AsicMiner.

[Grecoin]

Well i doubt their delay is on purpose.

Saying that i do prefer their ASICS come late but solid than earlier ending up to be crap just for the sake of market competition.

[Code_red]

looks like bfl would rather come out with quality than be first with a chip that won't have lots of head room for future upgrades.

[btcfollowers]

Looks like BFL shipping is imminent. Source: https://forums.butterflylabs.com/announcements/692-bfl-asic-status.html#post10249

Hope to be in the 1/3 of the luckers 

[BTCBlade]

That's your opinion.

And of course it works, the only other course of action is to sue.

You can not break the laws of physics no matter how many emails you send to BFL.

If the masks are not done (and this is what this looks like) then the laws of physics dictate that you will have to wait another 30 days for the chips to be done.

Actually you will very likely have to wait even longer then that, way longer, but please don't read this sentence, as I don't want to make you sad so shortly before Christmas.

possible voice of reason?

[hexed]

shut the fuck up moronic american freaks of nature

whoa whoa whoa.. apparently you are the "American" being so "sue happy"  That's how low lives get their money in America.. they sue everyone they can looking for that pay day.

OF COURSE I CAN SUE, there are laws against promising to deliver something on a specific date and not delivering on time, and especially about being months late, RETARDS.
Your statement is ignorant.  Yes.. you CAN sue.  It won't go anywhere however.  They have specifically stated that they will provide a refund if they have delays...soooo.. go get a refund! If you don't then this WHOLE post is not serious. 

And no.. there are not "LAWS" regardless of country that say what they are doing is illegal.  It's very similar to a game preorder.  Ex.  Half Life 2.  Preordered it for it's release in September of 2003.  I paid a small amount up front to preorder.  ONE YEAR LATER after 3 due dates missed, they finally released the game.  At ANY point I could have cancelled and got my deposit back. 

Just like you.. you could have submitted for a refund at ANY time but you haven't.  Instead you talk about suing which would go nowhere.  You are asking us to pressure BFL so you can do what?  get your device sooner?  There's your first flaw in logic.  BFL can't work fast enough if they don't have the hardware to put together.  That should be common sense.


..now if BFL said they would not refund anyone's money, or said they would but didn't.. THEN you could sue.  In the meantime either submit a refund, or keep waiting.  Those are your only TRUE options.  ...at least options that aren't a complete waste of you and other people's time.

and nobody gives a fuck if they care or not, I'm still going to get my money's worth for their fuck ups.

no.. no you won't.  but feel free to use this thread to catalog your lawsuit.. I can't wait to see this