GLBSE's latest updates (an early Christmas present for non-techies)

[speeder]

The web client now instead of giving a error message, it just do nothing.

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[eturnerx]

Amy chance that we can buy/sell fractional amounts of shares?

[speeder]

eturnerx fractional shares are not sold fractional on purpose on stock exchanges.


When a company want to make "fractional" shares they just issue trillions of shares (like Brazillian console manufacturer TecToy... each share is right now 0.01 USD)

[eturnerx]

eturnerx fractional shares are not sold fractional on purpose on stock exchanges.

Actually no - it dates back to the issuance to stock certificates. However I have different reasons for asking Nefario.

[speeder]

Amy chance that we can buy/sell fractional amounts of shares?

This would be an opportunity for a mutual fund on the glbse. Call it something like MF, with a subasset for each currently trading stock, e.g. MF.UBX and MF.SIN, and issue shares at, say .000001 btc. Then you can buy shares of the asset you are splitting and divide the dividends among the fund shares.

Did that make sense?

What?

[eturnerx]

Amy chance that we can buy/sell fractional amounts of shares?

This would be an opportunity for a mutual fund on the glbse. Call it something like MF, with a subasset for each currently trading stock, e.g. MF.UBX and MF.SIN, and issue shares at, say .000001 btc. Then you can buy shares of the asset you are splitting and divide the dividends among the fund shares.

Did that make sense?

You've spotted my cunning plan.... shhhhh! 

Just wanted to make sure Nefario wasn't going to sweep the rug out under the idea by bringing in fractional share trading.

[Hunterbunter]

Amy chance that we can buy/sell fractional amounts of shares?

This would be an opportunity for a mutual fund on the glbse. Call it something like MF, with a subasset for each currently trading stock, e.g. MF.UBX and MF.SIN, and issue shares at, say .000001 btc. Then you can buy shares of the asset you are splitting and divide the dividends among the fund shares.

Did that make sense?

You've spotted my cunning plan.... shhhhh! 

Just wanted to make sure Nefario wasn't going to sweep the rug out under the idea by bringing in fractional share trading.

A mutual fund is still a good idea, even with fractional share trading...I think the two should be independent. MF's primarily benefit those who cbf managing their own stocks, so they trust someone who cares. There are others with little capital that would love to put whatever they have in a stock.

I can't think of a reason why bitcoins cannot pioneer the way into fractional stock systems, since dividends are paid out by share % anyway. Buying "1 share for 12 btc" is fairly straightforward, but it's not too much of a stretch to say "buy me 1 btc's worth of the stock", and getting 0.08333 shares from someone who's simply selling. No different to the bitcoin exchange imo.

[FlipPro]

I wana put bitcams.com up there but people keep asking me about the certificate? Can you give me an explanation about why it doesn't exist? Great job on the site otherwise.

[Rogue Star]

I use GLBSE, but am not affiliated with them. GLBSE uses a self-signed certificate, which means GLBSE did not pay a third party to sign the certificate. what this means is that you get a nasty warning from most web browsers because of some of the disadvantages of a self-signed certificate I will explain later. while these disadvantages are a potential risk, a self-signed certificate CAN be secure and IS safer than not having a certificate. a self-signed certificate allows you to communicate with the site securely without the cost associated of a trusted certificate authority.

that said the disadvantages of a self-signed certificate are:
-you must trust the certificate that you are presented is good (you can add it as a permanent exception, which will be used by your browser for future comparison)
-you must trust that when the certificate changes that it was not changed by a malicious third party such that they can eavesdrop on or from the secure connection with the site

compared to a trusted certificate where
-you must trust that a disinterested third party (trusted by your browser) trusts the certificate AND that the site and the third party have not been compromised
-you must trust that when the certificate changes that the disinterested third party (trusted by your browser) trusts the certificate AND that the site and the third party have not been compromised

EDIT:
there are ways to get free trusted certificates, so those are definitely worth looking at

[Nefario]

I wana put bitcams.com up there but people keep asking me about the certificate? Can you give me an explanation about why it doesn't exist? Great job on the site otherwise.

Good question about the self signed cert.

I threw that up after the Mt.Gox fiasco, didn't wan't to wait at the time for a cert authority to get back to me with it.

With the crisis over(taking glbse down to harden it) I now have time to get around to fixing these issues, so we're going to get a signed cert.

From a security point of view, self signed is actually better(I think) but it throws up that horrible warning. I know what the warning is and normally click through but others might not.

Also a big update on the web client is on the way later today.

Nefario.

[Nefario]

Update of the webclient is now live, now it allows you to securely keep the keys for multiple accounts stored on your local machine in the browser.

https://glbse.com/client/glbse/index.html

The old client is available here if you prefer.

https://glbse.com/client/glbse_old/index.html

If there are any issues post them in any one of these threads, I'm watching them.

http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=13055.80

http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=19853.0

I appologise to anyone who didn't get your issues fixed in a timely manner over the last week, that is totally my fault.

Currently I'm the only one who is in a possition to resolve those issues, and was traveling for a few days. This is something We're hoping to resolve as we go forward.

Nefario.

[dishwara]

Nice work.
But, when i try to see the tally in motions, a window showing Executing appears & it doesn't show the votes.
Just only Executing is displayed for hours & nothing happens.

Also master password or main password is showing characters instead of *** or dots. make it hidden behind asterisk

[speeder]

I still cannot use it

My key:


-----BEGIN RSA PRIVATE KEY-----
MIIEpAIBAAKCAQEA9YUSAeRE4xCVMfOhqtrCR16mrKJqO6OzYSgU9Ilkb8qvEW49

...

EvJAJ9AAsBOzIBuW+ofZq9C4RCJnR8d5F58eZ6OKFFM5cyZwFJsHL+JN8F7n5bsP
o9ulSof9bKwnQSfm56Ih4hTgvo6gARGSjoF9BYpfcBTQXLjlKtOTsQ==
-----END RSA PRIVATE KEY-----


And I still cannot login at all It says the key is incorrect.

[Nefario]

I still cannot use it

My key:


-----BEGIN RSA PRIVATE KEY-----
MIIEpAIBAAKCAQEA9YUSAeRE4xCVMfOhqtrCR16mrKJqO6OzYSgU9Ilkb8qvEW49

...

EvJAJ9AAsBOzIBuW+ofZq9C4RCJnR8d5F58eZ6OKFFM5cyZwFJsHL+JN8F7n5bsP
o9ulSof9bKwnQSfm56Ih4hTgvo6gARGSjoF9BYpfcBTQXLjlKtOTsQ==
-----END RSA PRIVATE KEY-----


And I still cannot login at all It says the key is incorrect.

Are there any shares/bitcoin in your account?

How long has it been like this(I seem to remember you had the same issue before with the older web client)?

Are you able to create a new account and use that(with this client you can easily manage multiple accounts)?

What browser and OS are you using?

Nefario.

[Nefario]

Nice work.
But, when i try to see the tally in motions, a window showing Executing appears & it doesn't show the votes.
Just only Executing is displayed for hours & nothing happens.

Also master password or main password is showing characters instead of *** or dots. make it hidden behind asterisk

I'll see about making that change.

Just so we're clear, the private keys are stored in the browsers local db using html5 and encrypted using AES with a password derived key, you can inspect the source, it's all there in Javascript, the private key never goes to the server.

[speeder]

Yay!

I found the issue...

The user key had a extra invisible character (probably a space or a alt + 255)


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[Nefario]

Yay!

I found the issue...

The user key had a extra invisible character (probably a space or a alt + 255)


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So this was whitespace or something like that after the keytext or within the keytext?

Please confirm if that was the case and I'll see what can be done to prevent that happening in the future.

Also just to let uses know we seem to be having some issues with voting at the moment.

Is anyone else having trouble seeing their orders, bitcoin/market/asset histories?

Nefario.

[speeder]

It was a whitespace after it. Or something like that.

I did again a new bmc.py user copied all characters carefully (to not copy whitespace) and tried again, and THEN it worked.


Also for some reason, I spent a good time trying the user id "speeder", I forgot the user id was a string and for some reason it is not clear what the user id is.

[Nefario]

It was a whitespace after it. Or something like that.

I did again a new bmc.py user copied all characters carefully (to not copy whitespace) and tried again, and THEN it worked.


Also for some reason, I spent a good time trying the user id "speeder", I forgot the user id was a string and for some reason it is not clear what the user id is.

OK, the new interface should make that easier for people, at most a password to remember (if they have one at all)

[whirlpool]

I'm having trouble reaching the "Orders" page, Assets History, and withdrawing funds from the account.