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December 27, 2015, 10:23:27 PM
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Now coming back to your question, 1 BTC is slightly Less than 1.3 BTC, why should PH in BitKingdom.
If he dont put PH in BitKingdom, then assume he will put that in Bank, can any of the Banks can provide 1% daily profit/Interest??

Also thats what the Ideology of this BitKingdom Community is, today you help someone with your spare amount, Tomorrow someone will help you when u need the help.


There's a bit of a change of tack here. You are now selling the scheme on the basis of a 365% annual interest payment. This is at a time when NIRP is a very real possibility. The flaw in your concept is that the people with the money don't need the help (unless they give it to you), and the people that need the help don't have the money.

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December 27, 2015, 10:31:48 PM
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BitKingdom.org is a trusted global community centre

Trusted by whom?

Whenever you need financial help millions of BitKingdom community members will offer you the help you need, with no requirement for you to pay it back.

The website was set up (under WiG naturally) in August 2015, barely four months ago.
You get less than 1,000 visits a day and the majority of them come from Vietnam and Malaysia.
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BitKingdom has nothing to do with helping the community, only helping itself at the community's expense, by dangling an absurd carrot of 1% per day for doing nothing. Apart from sending your money to a random BTC address and then waiting for a 'cycle' to complete.
The only cash/profit generation of this scheme is the charge of 0.01BTC that you have to pay for the privilege of giving your money away.  Roll Eyes

A pale imitation of Mavrodi's ongoing MMM shit, BitKingdom will probably scam a large number of naive/greedy/stupid people who will then complain very loudly.




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BitKingdom.org is a trusted global community centre

Trusted by whom?

Whenever you need financial help millions of BitKingdom community members will offer you the help you need, with no requirement for you to pay it back.

The website was set up (under WiG naturally) in August 2015, barely four months ago.
You get less than 1,000 visits a day and the majority of them come from Vietnam and Malaysia.
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millions of BitKingdom community members
Cheesy

BitKingdom has nothing to do with helping the community, only helping itself at the community's expense, by dangling an absurd carrot of 1% per day for doing nothing. Apart from sending your money to a random BTC address and then waiting for a 'cycle' to complete.
The only cash/profit generation of this scheme is the charge of 0.01BTC that you have to pay for the privilege of giving your money away.  Roll Eyes

A pale imitation of Mavrodi's ongoing MMM shit, BitKingdom will probably scam a large number of naive/greedy/stupid people who will then complain very loudly.






Agreed. The only "Poverty" that might get ended here is OP's ... those that choose to whizz away their BTC on this scam deserve to lose it.


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December 28, 2015, 04:13:07 AM
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Whenever you need financial help millions of BitKingdom community members will offer you the help you need, with no requirement for you to pay it back.

Millions? are you serious? where is the evidence?

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If I don't have say 0.1btc, maybe I will deposit later for I can have my 0.1 when I get my fee.  Can I join for now?

This is a bit like regular banking lending: you have to have someone guaranteeing the payments if the person taking the loan defaults.

Imagine John goes away with the money he asked as a loan... Why would other participants (who have nothing to do with John or Lucy) have to pay for John?

entrance requires referal.. im guessing the referer becomes the guarantor

Make sense but surely, you'd be very cautious  when referring someone, you'll never know what the guy would do later lol.
But don't you think people will just join just to get a loan?


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If I don't have say 0.1btc, maybe I will deposit later for I can have my 0.1 when I get my fee.  Can I join for now?

This is a bit like regular banking lending: you have to have someone guaranteeing the payments if the person taking the loan defaults.

Imagine John goes away with the money he asked as a loan... Why would other participants (who have nothing to do with John or Lucy) have to pay for John?

entrance requires referal.. im guessing the referer becomes the guarantor

Make sense but surely, you'd be very cautious  when referring someone, you'll never know what the guy would do later lol.
But don't you think people will just join just to get a loan?


though i do think the website can be abused, not only by users but by the service operator putting in his own fake profiles to gather funds from others.

but if it is legit.. then i see that you will need to deposit some collateral. i think i remember that even silkroad had a collateral deposit for the sellers. so that they couldnt just run off taking customers funds without delivery.(forgive ignorance if wrong, it was just research i read a couple years ago)

so the collateral thing is a positive motivation to reduce the grab and run scammers.. but as you say those wanting 0.99999999 are not gonna deposit 0.1 just to be able to ask for 0.99999999 and knowing they have to repay 0.13 within a month.

the interest rates are too high.

its good in theory.. incentivising and rewarding lending in a crowdfunding way.. but not in practice,

lending to strangers across the world wont work out as the legal costs to sue them would not make it worth sueing them.. and having collateral deposited more than you want to request as a loan wont work either..

and thirdly
lets say someone did deposit 0.1 to then ask for a 0.99999999 loan.. if not repaying.. the loan giver will only get 0.1 not 0.13.. meaning not every lender will get their 1% a day.

this would only work if the person needing a loan after depositing his 0.1 collateral and wanted a 30day loan.. would only be allowed to request under 0.077 so that anyone giving out 0.077 is guaranteed 0.1(30% profit for 30 days)
which would be good for the lender.. but not for the person in need for funds as thats going to be even less likely that they would have 0.1 to use as collateral just to ask for 0.0769

but thats just me theorising something, even if it doesnt become successful, and gets abused, its still worth theorising potentials.. just for fun

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December 28, 2015, 06:18:36 PM
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You are totally overthinking this.
Ignore the "provide help" and "get help" phraseology stolen from Mavrodi, and the idea that it's a loan and borrow operation.
The attraction is that you send money, say 1 btc, and after the cycle completes (if it ever does), in ~30 days, then you qualify to withdraw the initial payment amount + 1% per day (~30%) minus the token cost i.e. you make a profit of 0.299 btc.
It's a pure 'decentralized' pyramid, with the admin's profit coming from the fees and the ability to allocate 'help' to accounts controlled by themselves.
"Gifting" scams seem to be increasing in popularity again, with the 'people's bank' angle being pushed to capitalize on the anti fiat establishment sentiment prevalent in bitcoin. They have mutated a bit in the last 20 years, but they are still what they always were: scams.

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December 28, 2015, 11:21:07 PM
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i don't know why,but this smells very fishy...
The original one MMM is very successful employing this kind of system there a re a few flaws in the system but can be resolve immediately this kind of system is very popular here in our country and so are in the other chapter in other country so far this is one successful lending community MMM already has million of members maybe because of the success of their system 


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Yes yes, another MMM.  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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The original one MMM is very successful employing this kind of system there are a few flaws in the system

Yes, I guess there's bound to be "a few flaws" running huge pyramid schemes which inevitably collapse and ruin the lives of hundreds of gullible people.

First time I have ever heard non adherence to basic mathematical principles described as a "flaw".
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The original one MMM is very successful employing this kind of system there are a few flaws in the system

Yes, I guess there's bound to be "a few flaws" running huge pyramid schemes which inevitably collapse and ruin the lives of hundreds of gullible people.

First time I have ever heard non adherence to basic mathematical principles described as a "flaw".
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I became curious on this program and like to see how it would it would be compared to mmm find out that that is not really a peer to peer transaction you will have to deposit to their system and the system is the one that will match the pairing it's still a ponzi scheme because an admin or groups operate the whole monetary system where as on MMM it's a pure peer to peer..


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January 02, 2016, 12:03:06 PM
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This concept has been used by many wealth distribution network which equalize profit distirbution using matching algorithms. This will become one sided as time goes by because of the developing countries traffics, it might ended up becoming a charity platform.

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hey bitkingdom..i think your group mostly from malaysia right? Grin
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Hello,

Know what is BitKingdom and it's ideology then watch the second video on "How it works?"
We are living in a world of nothing is too good to be true, so does Bitcoin. So, I am not asking you to join, but to understand what it is and how it works. This might works or not, but we (the operator and the community) is trying our best to make it works. Till date we already existed for 8 months.

What's BitKingdom?
https://www.youtube.com/embed/gYaOSTy74vw

How it can possibly works?
https://www.youtube.com/embed/rquS0e_51o0

You must understand that 1% daily is not "a profit" but rather you RIGHT to ask for help from the community. BitKingdom's transactions binded to the account's Bitcoin Blockchain so it's a transparent system. There's no single operator in BitKingdom. The power in managing BitKingdom is shared among the group leaders. At the end TRUST is what can ensure BitKingdom to work. Trust on the platform and the ideology.
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this hyip is so popular in my country
but i am still not interet to join
i believe hyip not long life

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May 14, 2016, 08:02:20 AM
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BitKingdom.org is a trusted global community centre, where everyone will be able to provide help and get help within the BitKingdom community.

You just have to provide help/invest once and you can get 30% profit/GH every 30 days for lifetime. No extra work. No MLM.
You can take out your principle anytime.
Minimum PH: 0.1 BTC

In its initial post says people will have 30% profit at the end of 30 days

I think it's more of a ponzi scheme that attempts to copy the conventional banking system

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May 14, 2016, 08:30:03 AM
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Hello,

Know what is BitKingdom and it's ideology then watch the second video on "How it works?"
We are living in a world of nothing is too good to be true, so does Bitcoin. So, I am not asking you to join, but to understand what it is and how it works. This might works or not, but we (the operator and the community) is trying our best to make it works. Till date we already existed for 8 months.

What's BitKingdom?
https://www.youtube.com/embed/gYaOSTy74vw

How it can possibly works?
https://www.youtube.com/embed/rquS0e_51o0

You must understand that 1% daily is not "a profit" but rather you RIGHT to ask for help from the community. BitKingdom's transactions binded to the account's Bitcoin Blockchain so it's a transparent system. There's no single operator in BitKingdom. The power in managing BitKingdom is shared among the group leaders. At the end TRUST is what can ensure BitKingdom to work. Trust on the platform and the ideology.

Looks like you guys live in another world where you think 'i wash your ass, you wash mine' works. Back to reality, its a world where the rich get richer and the poor and naive get duped. This is the real world mate. The only person who profits from this scam is the creator of the site aka the tip of the pyramid. So, why dont you get a real job instead of promoting all these nonsense? There's no short cut to riches

p/s

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May 14, 2016, 09:45:13 PM
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ADDED TO THE LIST

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1339672.msg13665221#msg13665221


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July 11, 2016, 06:33:07 PM
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https://i.imgur.com/IXnS3jO.jpg?1

9+ months successfully completed by BitKingdom.
Still Unshakable..

Long Live BitKingdom
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July 11, 2016, 07:15:33 PM
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9+ months successfully completed by BitKingdom.
Still Unshakable..

Long Live BitKingdom

Not that I particularly care, but I can't work out whether you are

a scammer
naive in the extreme
stupid

or a hybrid of the three.
Whichever, any scheme which relies on a continual supply of new punters and their money for survival is doomed, the only question is when.

Extraordinary Claims require Extraordinary Evidence
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