NYC Will Fine You $250,000 For ‘Misgendering’ A Transsexual

[bizerinm]

that's terrible, and how the seller would know if transsexual enter his shop is he 'she' or 'he' or better is he a transsexual at all? It's the best simply to say 'you'...unfortunately the world goes mad...

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[Wilikon]

that's terrible, and how the seller would know if transsexual enter his shop is he 'she' or 'he' or better is he a transsexual at all? It's the best simply to say 'you'...unfortunately the world goes mad...

Say "Hello!" Just smile. Keep the video surveillance rolling as proof just in case. Say "goodbye!"

[jak1]

This is barbarian. Now you must think in yourself what 'is' the person which entered your shop..And say to workers to pay attention too. The best is to speak only 'you'

[eon89]

What fresh hell is this? Where do they get these things? Who makes up such nonsense?
Only in the US will you see such craziness.
Hir? What the hell is that?
There are two genders. Male and female. And that's it.
Now all transgenders will go looking for people to see if they are saying hir and blir.
How is a person to know if someone is male or female?
Guys use makeup. Girls wear short hair and baseball caps.

[mrflibblehat]

Zhe? Hir? Are these even words? When have they invented them? What I can say at least is that the grammar check here doesn't recognize these words. Might be something.

[UliJonHoth]

Jesus f'ing Christ...I was hoping this "zhe,hir, etc..." crap would exist solely in the realm of the internet and these delusional kooks' minds but no, I should've know. This has gone way beyond out of hand and control, this reality is more and more like bizarro-land each day.

It’s not as simple as referring to transmen “he” or transwomen as “she,” either. The legislation makes it clear that if an individual desires, property owners will have to make use of “zhe,” “hir” and any other preferred pronoun. From the updated legislation:

    The NYCHRL requires employers and covered entities to use an individual’s preferred name, pronoun and title (e.g., Ms./Mrs.) regardless of the individual’s sex assigned at birth, anatomy, gender, medical history, appearance, or the sex indicated on the individual’s identification. Most individuals and many transgender people use female or male pronouns and titles.

    Some transgender and gender non-conforming people prefer to use pronouns other than he/him/his or she/her/hers, such as they/them/theirs or ze/hir

[eon89]

There are common sense rules and then are rules that are in the realm of science fiction. I can't believe this to be true. Do they really believe people to do this?

[mrflibblehat]

I'm also curious how people should identify these zhehirs if they saw one.
Lol - grammar check doesn't recognize the word - maybe that's saying something as well.

[theymos_away]

Ridiculous.

I generally only use masculine or feminine pronouns because singular "they" (etc.) sounds stupid in some sentences, and the newly-invented pronouns also sound bad. I'm happy to use a person's choice of either "he" or "she", but not to mangle my English.

[salinizm]

Did you call a transsexual person “he” or “she” when they preferred to be called “zhe?” According to a newly updated anti-discrimination law in New York City, you could be fined an eye-watering $250,000.

In the latest, astonishing act of draconian political correctness, the NYC Commission on Human Rights have updated a law on “Discrimination on the Basis of Gender Identity or Expression” to threaten staggering financial penalties against property owners who “misgender” employees or tenants.

Incidents that are deemed “wilful and malicious” will see property owners face up to $250,000 in fines, while standard violations of the law will result in a $125,000 fine. For small business owners, these sums are crippling.

It’s not as simple as referring to transmen “he” or transwomen as “she,” either. The legislation makes it clear that if an individual desires, property owners will have to make use of “zhe,” “hir” and any other preferred pronoun. From the updated legislation:

    The NYCHRL requires employers and covered entities to use an individual’s preferred name, pronoun and title (e.g., Ms./Mrs.) regardless of the individual’s sex assigned at birth, anatomy, gender, medical history, appearance, or the sex indicated on the individual’s identification. Most individuals and many transgender people use female or male pronouns and titles.

    Some transgender and gender non-conforming people prefer to use pronouns other than he/him/his or she/her/hers, such as they/them/theirs or ze/hir

Other violations of the law include refusing to allow individuals to use single-sex facilities such as bathrooms that are “consistent with their gender identity,” failing to provide employee health benefits for “gender-affirming care” and “imposing different uniforms or grooming standards based on sex or gender.”

Examples of such illegal behaviour include: “requiring female bartenders to wear makeup,” “Permitting only individuals who identify as women to wear jewellery or requiring only individuals who identify as male to have short hair,” and “permitting female but not male residents at a drug treatment facility to wear wigs and high heels.”

In other words, if a bar owner prevents male bartenders from wearing lipstick and heels, they’ll be breaking the law. They’ve now got a choice between potentially scaring off customers, and paying hundreds of thousands of dollars in fines. Regardless of the establishment’s clientèle or aesthetic, every property owner will be forced to conform to the same standard.

This is the latest in what Spiked Online editor-in-chief Brendan O’Neill calls “The Crisis of Character” in the west, in which identities become grounded in subjective interpretation rather than objective reality. The state is now forcing society to recognise the subjective identities of individuals, regardless of how absurd or surreal they may seem. In New York City, recognising someone’s identity is no longer a matter of case-by-case common sense and courtesy. It’s zir way or the highway.


http://www.breitbart.com/tech/2015/12/27/nyc-will-fine-you-250000-for-misgendering-a-transsexual/

this is so ridiculous.. they want to create a third gender.. but absolutely not , it wont happen..

[Wilikon]

NYC Lets You Choose From 31 Different Gender Identities



Individuals living in New York City can choose from a minimum of 31 different gender identities, many of which allow them to fluctuate between some version or combination of male or female identities.

Businesses that don’t respect and accommodate an individual’s chosen gender identity risk incurring six-figure fines under rules implemented by the city’s Commission on Human Rights.

The list of protected gender identities is available online and includes options such as “gender bender,” “two spirit,” “third sex,” “androgynous,” “gender gifted,” and “pangender.” A city official speaking on background confirmed to The Daily Caller that all of the listed identities are protected by the city’s anti-discrimination laws, but said that the list was not exhaustive.

The city does not provide definitions of the various gender identities, but TheDC was able to define several of them from glossaries provided online by the University of Wisconsin and the University of California Berkeley.


http://dailycaller.com/2016/05/24/new-york-city-lets-you-choose-from-31-different-gender-identities/


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There is no way to escape from a fine if genders are fluid from day to day.

[otrkid70]

Quite a bit of Homophobia going on in this thread.....Do these people really bother you all so much you post hateful things as you do?  Since when has a Transsexual wronged you in life?

Are you spewing hate because deep inside you have the curiosity to to look....To be interested in some of these folks?

Are you waging a war with your hidden Homo erotic fantasies?

I think so!


If they are not bothering you let them live their lives as they wish.


Please please let those of you complaining about these people step up and give an example of how a "Transsexual" has wronged you or did something to Affect your lives.

I'm waiting.

[TECSHARE]

Quite a bit of Homophobia going on in this thread.....Do these people really bother you all so much you post hateful things as you do?  Since when has a Transsexual wronged you in life?

Are you spewing hate because deep inside you have the curiosity to to look....To be interested in some of these folks?

Are you waging a war with your hidden Homo erotic fantasies?

I think so!


If they are not bothering you let them live their lives as they wish.


Please please let those of you complaining about these people step up and give an example of how a "Transsexual" has wronged you or did something to Affect your lives.

I'm waiting.

I am pretty sure most people in this thread don't have a problem with transexuals or homosexuals for that matter. They have a problem with the rhetoric and totalitarian policies pushed using the banner of this small minority of individuals dictating to the vast majority of people what they can and can't say (kind of like what you are doing right now), as well as putting them at risk to satisfy the emotional demands of a small subsection of their group. You rely on accusing these people of homophobia because you have no other argument but to accuse these people of hate because there is no logic for you to stand on! You had better start working on growing a brain now, because the era of the social justice warrior mentality of emotion = logic is over.

[otrkid70]

Meet Carmen and Jenna.

Now if these 2 hot Bitches came knocking at your door and asked if they could use your bathroom your dick would get rock hard you would forget your own name and you would let them use your bathroom. You would also address them anyway they wish.

Don't say you wouldn't. They are both Trans

[TECSHARE]

Meet Carmen and Jenna.

Now if these 2 hot Bitches came knocking at your door and asked if they could use your bathroom your dick would get rock hard you would forget your own name and you would let them use your bathroom. You would also address them anyway they wish.

Don't say you wouldn't. They are both Trans

Amazing demonstration of logic. Gold star.

[otrkid70]

Quite a bit of Homophobia going on in this thread.....Do these people really bother you all so much you post hateful things as you do?  Since when has a Transsexual wronged you in life?

Are you spewing hate because deep inside you have the curiosity to to look....To be interested in some of these folks?

Are you waging a war with your hidden Homo erotic fantasies?

I think so!


If they are not bothering you let them live their lives as they wish.


Please please let those of you complaining about these people step up and give an example of how a "Transsexual" has wronged you or did something to Affect your lives.

I'm waiting.

I am pretty sure most people in this thread don't have a problem with transexuals or homosexuals for that matter. They have a problem with the rhetoric and totalitarian policies pushed using the banner of this small minority of individuals dictating to the vast majority of people what they can and can't say (kind of like what you are doing right now), as well as putting them at risk to satisfy the emotional demands of a small subsection of their group. You rely on accusing these people of homophobia because you have no other argument but to accuse these people of hate because there is no logic for you to stand on! You had better start working on growing a brain now, because the era of the social justice warrior mentality of emotion = logic is over.

Really? The sarcasm and blatent posts like this says it all.

Just call him a faggot to avoid any misgendering.

[TECSHARE]

Quite a bit of Homophobia going on in this thread.....Do these people really bother you all so much you post hateful things as you do?  Since when has a Transsexual wronged you in life?

Are you spewing hate because deep inside you have the curiosity to to look....To be interested in some of these folks?

Are you waging a war with your hidden Homo erotic fantasies?

I think so!


If they are not bothering you let them live their lives as they wish.


Please please let those of you complaining about these people step up and give an example of how a "Transsexual" has wronged you or did something to Affect your lives.

I'm waiting.

I am pretty sure most people in this thread don't have a problem with transexuals or homosexuals for that matter. They have a problem with the rhetoric and totalitarian policies pushed using the banner of this small minority of individuals dictating to the vast majority of people what they can and can't say (kind of like what you are doing right now), as well as putting them at risk to satisfy the emotional demands of a small subsection of their group. You rely on accusing these people of homophobia because you have no other argument but to accuse these people of hate because there is no logic for you to stand on! You had better start working on growing a brain now, because the era of the social justice warrior mentality of emotion = logic is over.

Really? The sarcasm and blatent posts like this says it all.

Just call him a faggot to avoid any misgendering.

You jumping right back to accusations of hate and latent homosexuality as your argument says a lot more.

[Wilikon]

So far only ONE poster shared his fantasy with pictures on this thread... One. And that wasn't me...


Do you think these people are afraid of gays? I would love to hear your opinion on this

[Moloch]

Is there a fine for calling a whore a whore? Just curious.

No, but there is a fine for calling a slut, whore, or a skank, ho

Also, Santa must now say "Ha ha ha"... the previous jolly, "Ho ho ho", was offensive to the whores



Note: If anyone from NYC wants to be a bigot against trannys, they can always move to NC...  NC will defend religious bigotry to the grave
(and NYC is nearly NC anyway... just missing a Y)

[TECSHARE]

Is there a fine for calling a whore a whore? Just curious.

No, but there is a fine for calling a slut, whore, or a skank, ho

Also, Santa must now say "Ha ha ha"... the previous jolly, "Ho ho ho", was offensive to the whores



Note: If anyone from NYC wants to be a bigot against trannys, they can always move to NC...  NC will defend religious bigotry to the grave
(and NYC is nearly NC anyway... just missing a Y)

So now not allowing anyone who decides they feel like a man or a woman that day to go into whatever bathroom, locker room, or shower they like is "bigotry against trannys", oh of course. It couldn't be that they are defending the rights of everyone else against a small fascist minority subset of this tiny community now could it? No, that makes too much sense!