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December 28, 2015, 03:44:00 PM |
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I think it was a mistake, but it's really suspicious transactions, whether it's one of the dark dealings of the underworld ?? hahaha That really interesting
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ranochigo
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December 28, 2015, 03:57:48 PM |
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Relayed bt IP: blockchain.info Wallet is probably web wallet.
A warning should be displayed by wallets while sending with these kinda huge fees.
Or a raw TX constructed by user and relayed using: https://blockchain.info/pushtxIf you scammed someone why would you draw attention to it with a huge fee? A slightly above normal one's gonna do the job just fine. I guess it's probably an unfortunate mistake.
I agree with your opinion this is indeed a huge mistake and the sender is very unfortunate since there is no way it can be recovered this kind of things is the one that every one should be aware you can do that on paypal but never on bitcoin transaction where there is no third party that can help you recover the funds If only the fee, it still can be recovered if pool which mined block that transaction want to give back it. In past someone made same mistake, but the pool which mined block which has his transaction found out about this mistake & he gave back the huge fee to the owner. But, i wonder if there are any pool which would do that There have been instances where a pool refunded the fees fully.[1][2] There is no chance of getting a refund with decentralised pool like p2pool or most pools. There is a higher chance with privately owned pools. [1] https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=602152.0[2] https://m.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1lb5my/asicminer_refunds_the_accidental_200_btc/
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thejaytiesto
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December 28, 2015, 03:59:33 PM |
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I wonder who can make such a mistake without realizing what they are doing? I mean it's pretty hard to put that amount of money in the fee box, unless he had it on the clipboard and pasted it and clicked send without realizing.. still really weird.
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December 28, 2015, 04:01:28 PM |
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Relayed bt IP: blockchain.info Wallet is probably web wallet.
A warning should be displayed by wallets while sending with these kinda huge fees.
Or a raw TX constructed by user and relayed using: https://blockchain.info/pushtxIf you scammed someone why would you draw attention to it with a huge fee? A slightly above normal one's gonna do the job just fine. I guess it's probably an unfortunate mistake.
I agree with your opinion this is indeed a huge mistake and the sender is very unfortunate since there is no way it can be recovered this kind of things is the one that every one should be aware you can do that on paypal but never on bitcoin transaction where there is no third party that can help you recover the funds If only the fee, it still can be recovered if pool which mined block that transaction want to give back it. In past someone made same mistake, but the pool which mined block which has his transaction found out about this mistake & he gave back the huge fee to the owner. But, i wonder if there are any pool which would do that There have been instances where a pool refunded the fees fully.[1][2] There is no chance of getting a refund with decentralised pool like p2pool or most pools. There is a higher chance with privately owned pools. [1] https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=602152.0[2] https://m.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1lb5my/asicminer_refunds_the_accidental_200_btc/I don't think it's a pushed raw transaction. Because you should say the miners fee to the wallet software.
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ATguy
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December 28, 2015, 04:06:05 PM |
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There is something in these transactions with "replace by fees" new method. As he wants to double spend a transaction to scam someone But I still can not understand why he paid so much fees !
This replace by fees will be in Bitcoin Core 0.12, so not used much now. Deffinitively scammer paradise comming soon (after Bitcoin Core 0.12 released) before people learn to do not trust 0 confirmation transactions. But this case looks more like pure mistake by somebody creating transaction itselves and overlooking/not understanding the fees.
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December 28, 2015, 04:08:46 PM |
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Adoption is just around the corner, this is just more proof that bitcoin is simple to use.
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smiletyson
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December 28, 2015, 04:09:02 PM |
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There is something in these transactions with "replace by fees" new method. As he wants to double spend a transaction to scam someone But I still can not understand why he paid so much fees !
This replace by fees will be in Bitcoin Core 0.12, so not used much now. Deffinitively scammer paradise comming soon (after Bitcoin Core 0.12 released) before people learn to do not trust 0 confirmation transactions. But this case looks more like pure mistake by somebody creating transaction itselves and overlooking/not understanding the fees. Is there a source for that? I don't think this double spend feature will be added to the core wallet.
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ranochigo
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December 28, 2015, 04:10:49 PM |
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Relayed bt IP: blockchain.info Wallet is probably web wallet.
A warning should be displayed by wallets while sending with these kinda huge fees.
Or a raw TX constructed by user and relayed using: https://blockchain.info/pushtxIf you scammed someone why would you draw attention to it with a huge fee? A slightly above normal one's gonna do the job just fine. I guess it's probably an unfortunate mistake.
I agree with your opinion this is indeed a huge mistake and the sender is very unfortunate since there is no way it can be recovered this kind of things is the one that every one should be aware you can do that on paypal but never on bitcoin transaction where there is no third party that can help you recover the funds If only the fee, it still can be recovered if pool which mined block that transaction want to give back it. In past someone made same mistake, but the pool which mined block which has his transaction found out about this mistake & he gave back the huge fee to the owner. But, i wonder if there are any pool which would do that There have been instances where a pool refunded the fees fully.[1][2] There is no chance of getting a refund with decentralised pool like p2pool or most pools. There is a higher chance with privately owned pools. [1] https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=602152.0[2] https://m.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1lb5my/asicminer_refunds_the_accidental_200_btc/I don't think it's a pushed raw transaction. Because you should say the miners fee to the wallet software. Transaction fee is never specified. The transaction fee is always total input deduct total output. An error can be made while constructing a raw TX.
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HarryKPeters
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December 28, 2015, 06:24:42 PM |
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Adoption is just around the corner, this is just more proof that bitcoin is simple to use.
First, what a waste. paying over 420 USD on fees. We use bitcoin because we like the low fees right . Anyway yes, a warning should have been displayed and/or a confirmation message for all transactions above 1 BTC stating the exact amounts is needed F.e. Payment 1.BTC Fee 1.0001 BTC Total 1.0001 BTC
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ACAB
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December 28, 2015, 06:43:57 PM |
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That's another way for miners to launder coins. Big mining companies are launder their dirty coins with these tricks. They find the block so they get the same money, just changing it with a clean one. Left pocket to right pocket, not news. It happens since Lydians found money.
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Amph
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December 28, 2015, 07:28:50 PM |
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he scammed someone maybe and want high priority for the transfer? this thing happned with the hacker on bitstamp, i remember the hacker payed 1 btc for the fee
But it's not Bitstamp. Bitstamp can detect the unauthorised TX fairly easily with the infrastructure and hence 1BTC would make any miner happy. No one in the right mind would immediately pay up to 1 BTC as a transaction fee just to prevent any double spend. Judging by how both TXes only have one output. It would be possible that the client made an error and forgot to include any change address and thus the amount not redeemed is the miner fee. It's an expensive error. is not for preventing double spend, it was for sending the funds asap , the hacked at that time did it for taht reason on bitstamp Why would they want the funds ASAP? They need at least a confirmation to try to stop Bitstamp from double spending it. If they don't, Bitstamp can easily double spend it by asking a few miners to mine their TX and move it elsewhere. it's not so easy for bitstamp to doublespend by asking miners, you say it like it's somethign they can do at will the hacker wanted to get the funds asap to avoid the account being locked from bitstamp, supposedly
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maokoto
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December 28, 2015, 07:52:45 PM |
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Perhaps he was only testing if there would be a confirmation message for such a big fee... and the message did not come. Then he wanted to double-check it
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knowhow
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December 28, 2015, 08:02:35 PM |
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Well looks like more to be a test transaction to see how many time takes to get the transaction confirmed,but sure if not makes no sense to pay such fee,when i had read i thinked someone is moving a huge ammount of bitcoins...i thinked it were nakamoto waking up his wallets.
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December 28, 2015, 08:04:33 PM |
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as per my knowledge if he has used web wallet then their is no chances of that much huge transactions fees as they have automated standard fee structure for transactions. ya if he has used any hardware wallet then their may be chances as in hardware wallet you can decide how much fees you have to pay for every transactions.
i am using electrum and in that their is a option of manually deciding the fees for transaction.
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December 28, 2015, 08:07:31 PM |
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move stolen coins fast? no, the fee is to high. stupidity: maybe
i think that someone just wanted to get famous. and now he/she/they is on the best way to hit this goal.
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l8nit3
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December 28, 2015, 08:17:40 PM |
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Am i correct in reading that both transaction amounts were actually less then 1 BTC each??? with that high of a tx fee??
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December 28, 2015, 08:24:22 PM |
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move stolen coins fast? no, the fee is to high. stupidity: maybe
i think that someone just wanted to get famous. and now he/she/they is on the best way to hit this goal.
I don't think so. Why would you try to be famous by losing money and staying anonymous. Probably some guy who wanted to transfer his coins very fast and made a mistake.
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richardsNY
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December 28, 2015, 08:29:09 PM |
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It might be a hacker that somehow gained access to a wallet and trolled that person by sending the coins with ridiculous fees. Or the person in question is dumb.
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vlom
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December 28, 2015, 08:48:56 PM |
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move stolen coins fast? no, the fee is to high. stupidity: maybe
i think that someone just wanted to get famous. and now he/she/they is on the best way to hit this goal.
I don't think so. Why would you try to be famous by losing money and staying anonymous. Probably some guy who wanted to transfer his coins very fast and made a mistake. now people are talking about this. and even more people are reading about this. thats what i call fishing for attention. => publicity => fame. loosing money? if you have enough money and you are bored?
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Hugroll
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December 28, 2015, 08:50:26 PM |
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I've seen alot of people do stuff like that just to donate and help support the miners, im guessing this person had the same intentions, its not that uncommon as you might think.
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