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December 30, 2015, 10:24:19 AM
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http://bitcoinist.net/coinbase-tests-bitcoin-xt-removed-bitcoin-org/

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December 30, 2015, 11:07:29 AM
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the latest victim of the censorship.  Cry

good to have the bitcoin.com/forum. feel free to join.

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December 30, 2015, 11:09:28 AM
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Pretty dumb waste of time by Coinbase, XT has been a decaying corpse with little to no support for some time now.

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December 30, 2015, 03:33:50 PM
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Wow. Now this is a serious move. This wasn't the mindset I was expecting from folks running Bitcoin.org. Are they afraid of change? Experimenting? No one will lose anything if the fork fails... We just keep Bitcoin as it is and our lives keep going

The Github thread on which this was discussed is pretty interesting:

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I don't believe the XT developers claims about only activating when 75% of the miners support it. I doubt that's how XT will actually fork, because they'll never get the support from the Chinese miners, and they know it, and they've always known that.

What they're probably going to do is to keep trying to get big companies on board to try to eventually make some "economic majority" argument and force it through with checkpoints and ignoring the longest chain.

This is pure speculation. This the same as a company releasing a product and its specifications and you don't believe on its specifications... Like there was someone better to show you specifics about the product than the company who designed, built and released it Cheesy

If XT "forces" anything (whether it's checkpoints or not), they've failed.

That's why we can't just...

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coerce Coinbase into switching back to Bitcoin Core

because that's not how Bitcoin works.
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December 30, 2015, 03:48:14 PM
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Have Bitcoin's leaders become some dictators ? I think that Satoshi would have let Coinbase on the website. Do you think so ? Is so they should learn from their Master.

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December 30, 2015, 03:58:29 PM
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Why would coinbase care if they are on the Bitcoin.org site?  is it purely from an advertising perspective?
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December 30, 2015, 11:24:58 PM
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Why would coinbase care if they are on the Bitcoin.org site?  is it purely from an advertising perspective?

The issue here is far more complex than advertising... The issue here is we are distancing and segregating each other because of different views on how should Bitcoin evolve (or in some cases, simply stall in time).

Some people do not seem to care to listen to what everyone has to say about what should the future of Bitcoin be, nor do they seem to care in discovering solution beyond theirs (or any solution at all). We all benefit from dialog.
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December 30, 2015, 11:25:28 PM
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Old news, but highlights the problem with the administrators of Bitcoin.org.
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December 30, 2015, 11:32:05 PM
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Bitcoin.org took blockchain.info off their recommened wallets too, that was a long time ago though.

I think that was more a security concern though.

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December 31, 2015, 09:59:42 PM
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I noticed now that coinbase is removed from "All web wallets" in bitcoin.com website.

Does anybody know who runs this site? I noticed that blockchain.info wallet is back after a long time?

Don't know why they removed for something that they experimented with Bitcoin XT, what should coinbase do now to get back on the website
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January 01, 2016, 01:10:20 AM
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A pathetic move but at least it's consistent. That Github thread makes for some rather saddening reading. Are they all going to remove themselves from the scene if it forks off in a direction they don't like?

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January 01, 2016, 12:17:34 PM
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If it were me, I'd remove the webwallets section completely.  Anything that doesn't promote taking responsibility for your own private keys should be actively discouraged, particularly for new users.  Whether the webwallet in question uses XT or not is of little significance to me.

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January 01, 2016, 02:42:23 PM
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If it were me, I'd remove the webwallets section completely.  Anything that doesn't promote taking responsibility for your own private keys should be actively discouraged, particularly for new users.  Whether the webwallet in question uses XT or not is of little significance to me.
I suggest you take it up with the Blockstream Players.  They are after all the New Fiat Governors of Bitcoin.  If they like your idea, then they can enforce it.  They can shut down discussion of anything they don't like, and they can shut down any technology paths that compete wit their business model.  They are obviously more and more willing to blatantly wield their newfound, ironfisted authority openly and without fear of consequence.... so you really should take this idea up with them.  It is after all the sort of stupid, moronic, freedom-killing, competition-choking, small-minded idea they might like.
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January 01, 2016, 03:06:19 PM
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This is an aggressive move from Coinbase and actually says:

We don't care about the Majority, we don't care about discussion, Fuck you all.
The centralization is dripping of it...
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January 01, 2016, 03:23:01 PM
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I noticed now that coinbase is removed from "All web wallets" in bitcoin.com website.
They are in the bank list now.

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January 01, 2016, 03:34:08 PM
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This is an aggressive move from Coinbase and actually says:

We don't care about the Majority, we don't care about discussion, Fuck you all.
The centralization is dripping of it...
Don't you just love the freedom and democracy of the bitcoin system?

Everybody gets a vote.  Just don't vote against any Blockstream solution, or you will have your business removed from channels, and you will be shunned, and we will label you as the "Centralized" Opposition.

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January 01, 2016, 03:41:02 PM
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I see no other altcoins listed on Bitcoin.org, so it's consistent.
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January 01, 2016, 03:41:31 PM
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Bitcoin.org devs and owners are long-time supporters of Bitcoin-Core, so it's very expectable for them do so, and they have every right to. But then again they obviously over-reacted, Coinbase says it's for "testing purposes" (even though they wouldn't have gone public with it if it was so, who knows..), but I just hope this doesn't cause the gap between XT and Core to be more noticeable, the blockchain, and the community as a whole would suffer too much.
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January 01, 2016, 03:56:40 PM
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Well it is not bad if they get prepared for that, even though it would not likely work. Who knows, it's like betting at 0.01% odds, but better prepared and safe than sorry, perhaps they thought that.


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January 01, 2016, 04:07:16 PM
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I noticed now that coinbase is removed from "All web wallets" in bitcoin.com website.

Does anybody know who runs this site? I noticed that blockchain.info wallet is back after a long time?

Don't know why they removed for something that they experimented with Bitcoin XT, what should coinbase do now to get back on the website

Didn't know that. Thought Coinbase was just removed from bitcoin.org
But you're right I've checked it.No Coinbase web wallet listed anymore.
This site belongs to Roger Ver as far as I know.

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