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December 30, 2015, 03:14:38 PM
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He was trying to paint the Bitfinex charts to make it look like a crash was going to happen so he wouldn't lose money.  Some hedge fund manager moron or something.  China refused to follow his downward manipulation on Finex because they have longs in at $420-430 and wouldn't budge off their $430 price for a long time.  Bitstamp + Coinbase began to diverge from Finex price and Stamp went all the way up to like $426 while Finex was still $421, so this guy's downward manipulation is probably a fail and he's going to get squeezed.

OKcoin + Huobi + Coinbase + Bitstamp all trying to go up while only Finex is being manipulated down due to some overleveraged hedge fund manager.

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December 30, 2015, 03:21:27 PM
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Not really clear what your talking about.  $5 million usd would be 12,000 bitcoins.  We havent seen that volume today on bitfinex.

You do realize bitfinex is basically a bucketshop right? I wouldnt be surprised if most of the trading there was just the actual owners of bitfinex. Also i dont think any hedge funds are interested in bitcoin.

(edit: there's a reason why they decided to operate in hong kong - outside of usa and eu - because they have no regulations about that kind of thing. if they were in usa for example they would be closed immediately by the feds. caveat emptor).

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December 30, 2015, 03:24:19 PM
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Not really clear what your talking about.  $5 million usd would be 12,000 bitcoins.  We havent seen that volume today on bitfinex.

You do realize bitfinex is basically a bucketshop right? I wouldnt be surprised if most of the trading there was just the actual owners of bitfinex. Also i dont think any hedge funds are interested in bitcoin.

(edit: there's a reason why they decided to operate in hong kong - outside of usa and eu - because they have no regulations about that kind of thing. if they were in usa for example they would be closed immediately by the feds. caveat emptor).

Yes, they actually are interested in Bitcoin.  There's freaking hedge fund guys that go on the tiny altcoin exchange Poloniex and short with $100,000-$200,000 just to fuck with people in illiquid markets for free money as they cause terror.

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December 30, 2015, 03:27:06 PM
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Not really clear what your talking about.  $5 million usd would be 12,000 bitcoins.  We havent seen that volume today on bitfinex.

You do realize bitfinex is basically a bucketshop right? I wouldnt be surprised if most of the trading there was just the actual owners of bitfinex. Also i dont think any hedge funds are interested in bitcoin.

(edit: there's a reason why they decided to operate in hong kong - outside of usa and eu - because they have no regulations about that kind of thing. if they were in usa for example they would be closed immediately by the feds. caveat emptor).

Yes, they actually are interested in Bitcoin.  There's freaking hedge fund guys that go on the tiny altcoin exchange Poloniex and short with $100,000-$200,000 just to fuck with people in illiquid markets for free money as they cause terror.

Believe me no reputable hedge fund would risk getting involved in bitcoin unless they were crazy. Its either a scammer from china or a crazy gambler.

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December 30, 2015, 03:42:08 PM
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Not really clear what your talking about.  $5 million usd would be 12,000 bitcoins.  We havent seen that volume today on bitfinex.

You do realize bitfinex is basically a bucketshop right? I wouldnt be surprised if most of the trading there was just the actual owners of bitfinex. Also i dont think any hedge funds are interested in bitcoin.

He just can't stop his delusions. always talk about world that big investors this bullshit. in the real world, no one cares about this small bitcoin pump and dump dying ponzi scheme.

Well said man, bitcoiners always think the real world take their little "thing" seriously. The fact is, no one serious care about it not to mention "invest" or gamble with it.

Except for the fact you're a 0 post spam account that creates literally hundreds of accounts per day to spam this forum with.  Looks like you sure care what the price is doing.

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December 30, 2015, 03:46:01 PM
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Roach.  Are the manipulators the same Vietnamese pump/dump group in the Polo troll box?  Grin

I call bullshit.

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And it's the Chinese exchanges doing all the manipulating, specifically OkCoin and Huobi.  All the other exchanges are just following them doing some arbitrage.

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December 30, 2015, 03:52:12 PM
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And it's the Chinese exchanges doing all the manipulating, specifically OkCoin and Huobi.  All the other exchanges are just following them doing some arbitrage.

China manipulated up and Bitfinex manipulated down.  Then even after Finex dropped, China refused to budge for a long time.  So right now we're in a stalemate between China pumpers and Bitfinex shorter manipulators.

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Oh...  And do you remember when your last 'over leveraged moron' shorted BTS and you claimed he 'lost money'.  Guess what, we talked to them.  They actually made a killing shorting BTS on Polo.

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And it's the Chinese exchanges doing all the manipulating, specifically OkCoin and Huobi.  All the other exchanges are just following them doing some arbitrage.

China manipulated up and Bitfinex manipulated down.  Then even after Finex dropped, China refused to budge for a long time.  So right now we're in a stalemate between China pumpers and Bitfinex shorter manipulators.

Huh?  China, specifically OkCoin and Huobi just took profit if you haven't noticed.  And as far as I know BitFinex is also China to me.

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December 30, 2015, 03:58:33 PM
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Oh...  And do you remember when your last 'over leveraged moron' shorted BTS and you claimed he 'lost money'.  Guess what, we talked to them.  They actually made a killing shorting BTS on Polo.

No, he made money shorting Bitshares, then he bought after it dropped, then because of his short killing confidence in the market, it dropped more and he lost all his money he made lol.

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December 30, 2015, 04:01:17 PM
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Oh...  And do you remember when your last 'over leveraged moron' shorted BTS and you claimed he 'lost money'.  Guess what, we talked to them.  They actually made a killing shorting BTS on Polo.

No, he made money shorting Bitshares, then he bought after it dropped, then because of his short killing confidence in the market, it dropped more and he lost all his money he made lol.

They didn't buy back.  They covered their shorts.  And actually shorted again profiting even more.  Get your facts straight.

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Oh...  And do you remember when your last 'over leveraged moron' shorted BTS and you claimed he 'lost money'.  Guess what, we talked to them.  They actually made a killing shorting BTS on Polo.

No, he made money shorting Bitshares, then he bought after it dropped, then because of his short killing confidence in the market, it dropped more and he lost all his money he made lol.

They didn't buy back.  They covered their shorts.  And actually shorted again profiting even more.  Get your facts straight.

First of all, I wasn't talking about the Vietnamese who you just claimed did not exist.  How can you talk to someone if you claim they don't exist?  It looks like you need to get your facts straight.

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December 30, 2015, 04:20:31 PM
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And it's the Chinese exchanges doing all the manipulating, specifically OkCoin and Huobi.  All the other exchanges are just following them doing some arbitrage.

China manipulated up and Bitfinex manipulated down.  Then even after Finex dropped, China refused to budge for a long time.  So right now we're in a stalemate between China pumpers and Bitfinex shorter manipulators.


Not really a big deal. Someone sells on bitfinex so there's a small change in the price against china.  Its not exactly manipulation just a arbitrage opportunity.

Most traders use all the exchanges at the same time so doesnt happen very often.

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Oh...  And do you remember when your last 'over leveraged moron' shorted BTS and you claimed he 'lost money'.  Guess what, we talked to them.  They actually made a killing shorting BTS on Polo.

No, he made money shorting Bitshares, then he bought after it dropped, then because of his short killing confidence in the market, it dropped more and he lost all his money he made lol.

They didn't buy back.  They covered their shorts.  And actually shorted again profiting even more.  Get your facts straight.

First of all, I wasn't talking about the Vietnamese who you just claimed did not exist.  How can you talk to someone if you claim they don't exist?  It looks like you need to get your facts straight.

Nope.  It was you who said that the 'over leveraged moron' on Polo was a Vietnamese pump/dump group at the Polo trollbox.  Not me.  Gonna find that thread and quote your posts.  Unless you edit your posts over there.

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And by the way...  Your 'over leveraged moron'...  they're Americans, not Vietnamese.

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December 30, 2015, 04:24:41 PM
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Oh...  And do you remember when your last 'over leveraged moron' shorted BTS and you claimed he 'lost money'.  Guess what, we talked to them.  They actually made a killing shorting BTS on Polo.

No, he made money shorting Bitshares, then he bought after it dropped, then because of his short killing confidence in the market, it dropped more and he lost all his money he made lol.

They didn't buy back.  They covered their shorts.  And actually shorted again profiting even more.  Get your facts straight.

First of all, I wasn't talking about the Vietnamese who you just claimed did not exist.  How can you talk to someone if you claim they don't exist?  It looks like you need to get your facts straight.

Nope.  It was you who said that the 'over leveraged moron' on Polo was a Vietnamese pump/dump group at the Polo trollbox.  Not me.

Never said that.  The Vietnamese had a bot and 500 Bitcoin that pumped sometimes and dumped others.  Please go do something better with your time besides claiming they don't exist then claiming you talked to them because that doesn't make any sense.  His name was Duk or Duck something or other.

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December 30, 2015, 04:30:40 PM
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Oh...  And do you remember when your last 'over leveraged moron' shorted BTS and you claimed he 'lost money'.  Guess what, we talked to them.  They actually made a killing shorting BTS on Polo.

No, he made money shorting Bitshares, then he bought after it dropped, then because of his short killing confidence in the market, it dropped more and he lost all his money he made lol.

They didn't buy back.  They covered their shorts.  And actually shorted again profiting even more.  Get your facts straight.

First of all, I wasn't talking about the Vietnamese who you just claimed did not exist.  How can you talk to someone if you claim they don't exist?  It looks like you need to get your facts straight.

Nope.  It was you who said that the 'over leveraged moron' on Polo was a Vietnamese pump/dump group at the Polo trollbox.  Not me.

Never said that.  The Vietnamese had a bot and 500 Bitcoin that pumped sometimes and dumped others.  Please go do something better with your time besides claiming they don't exist then claiming you talked to them because that doesn't make any sense.  His name was Duk or Duck something or other.

They do exist at Polo.  And they're Americans.  What I'm implying is are they actually 'morons' as you say.  Just like what you're claiming that this 'moron' at BitFinex is over leveraged and is about to lose his shirt because he's a stupid moron.

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December 30, 2015, 04:33:23 PM
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Some hedge fund manager moron or something.  China refused to follow his downward manipulation on Finex because they have longs in at $420-430 and wouldn't budge off their $430 price for a long time.

OKcoin + Huobi + Coinbase + Bitstamp all trying to go up while only Finex is being manipulated down due to some overleveraged hedge fund manager.

Nope. Huobi lead the correction, once again, as fucking usual. The fact that Huobi normally trades at a premium to the USD exchanges is also not unusual, and is not a sign of manipulators on USD exchanges trying to drag Bitcoin down.

You do realize bitfinex is basically a bucketshop right?

Yep. Bitfinex are fucking crooks and most of the volume is basically 'friends of the exchange' (the exchange operators themselves). The illusion of a big fat liquid exchange lures traders into a false sense of security, believing it is actually safe to use Stop Orders, in that the liquidity is too deep for insiders to go Stop Run Farming...WRONG!

And it's the Chinese exchanges doing all the manipulating, specifically OkCoin and Huobi.  All the other exchanges are just following them doing some arbitrage.

Yep....90% of the time, Huobi leads this market.......and the most hilarious thing of all is, their volume is massively inflated/faked.....the BTC they cash out into USD on Stamp though, now that is real volume!

BTC is the fkn wild west.

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