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Thanks for sharing. Are you able to pull the same for 2011 Casascius? Wondering how many ms68 or higher errors exist.., I entered a cert number but got an error.
User error....looks like there are 5 MS68 errors
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December 31, 2015, 10:02:17 PM Last edit: January 01, 2016, 03:02:27 AM by Blazed |
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Want me to post some cert #s?
2011 Brass - 4539807 2012 Brass - 4362007 2013 Brass Single - 4359096 2013 Brass Half - 4932755 5BTC - 4620876 10BTC - 4603809 25BTC - 4909059
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December 31, 2015, 10:32:37 PM |
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What I find interesting are the two MS62 coins, and I'd love to see what those look like exactly. These don't circulate and unless someone actually handles them quite a bit, they shouldn't be below (I would say) MS65.
And though ANACS is certainly a respected grading company, it'd be great if the other two of the big three (NGC, PCGS) would get into this and start grading physical bitcoins.
Thanks for posting.
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December 31, 2015, 11:24:36 PM |
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So, need one of each type in order to get a full report? (Or simply type in enough random cert numbers to get it?)
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December 31, 2015, 11:32:37 PM |
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![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) I will dig out some numbers as well
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January 01, 2016, 08:33:15 PM |
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Want me to post some cert #s?
2011 Brass - 4539807 2012 Brass - 4362007 2013 Brass Single - 4359096 2013 Brass Half - 4932755 5BTC - 4620876 10BTC - 4603809 25BTC - 4909059
Make a nice listing for us!!
Thanks Blazed. I was going to go plug some of these numbers in and try to make a nice big table, but looks like the ANACS cert tool took a dump today. Worked fine yesterday, now it's just some asp.net/AJAX error. Maybe they'll fix it next week... So, need one of each type in order to get a full report? (Or simply type in enough random cert numbers to get it?)
One cert of each type (or more accurately: year and denomination) will produce a population list for just that one type.
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So looks like ANACS recently updated their certification verification tool to include populations: http://www.anacs.com/Populations/CertVerification.aspxChecked the silver 0.1, 0.5, and 1.0: Type | Date | Mint Variety | 60 | 61 | 62 | 63 | 64 | 65 | 66 | 67 | 68 | 69 | 70 | Total Graded | PATTERNS | 2013 | CASASCIUS 0.1 BITCOIN | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 7 | 11 | 7 | 17 | 19 | 35 | 11 | 107 | PATTERNS | 2013 | CASASCIUS 0.5 BITCOIN | 0 | 0 | 0 | 3 | 26 | 46 | 38 | 40 | 16 | 20 | 1 | 190 | PATTERNS | 2013 | CASASCIUS 1 BITCOIN | 0 | 0 | 4 | 14 | 33 | 59 | 51 | 58 | 43 | 62 | 12 | 336 |
System doesn't appear to distinguish between the all-silver and gilt silver singles.. and I have no idea if these distinguish between brass and silver for given years. But I am guessing someone here is hoarding a pile of MS70 singles! Ahem, Blazed and MN... If anyone wants to look up nickels, tens, and brass coin populations... just need a cert number to start with. We could try to build a table of all the Cas (+other) coin grade populations. Happy friggin' new year! Keep in mind that unless ANACS tracks and records each unique coin address, POP reports may not be accurate due to people cracking original cases and resubmitting for potentially better grades. There was a thought that ANACS was giving higher grades recently, so some folks resubmitted coins for reconsideration. Unless ANACS tracked the addy, gave the same grade and didn't include the regrade in its POP report...then there may be many duplicates in the POP reports. Wouldn't be surprised to eventually see the number of graded coins eclipse Mike's total overall output production numbers, especially for the lower run coins like 2013 silvers.
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Very true Ducatitalia. ANACS do not know about those old slabs that have been cracked and resubmitted and they will appear as additional new slabs, and the old ones will still have an entry
Also .... each of the unique varieties of coins that Mike did, will not be represented by a separate population report. Some of them are merged together as I recall. So same year, and same denomination, but different series or different metal could well be bundled together as a single population.
2013 0.5 silver / brass and also 2013 1.0 silver / brass spring to mind, as well as perhaps the 5 and 25 BTC series 1's and 2's (need to check those ones). I am pretty sure they have split out 2011 s1 and s2 though (due to the Casacius error in s1). The gilded coins have been split out from the ungilded though (definately the 1's, not sure on the 10's).
Let me know what ANACS reference numbers you are short DF, and I will try and help fill in any blanks.
It looks like the pop reports are there again, if you go through the certification search, they are then shown for the coin queried
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January 04, 2016, 08:45:12 PM |
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What I find interesting are the two MS62 coins, and I'd love to see what those look like exactly. These don't circulate and unless someone actually handles them quite a bit, they shouldn't be below (I would say) MS65.
And though ANACS is certainly a respected grading company, it'd be great if the other two of the big three (NGC, PCGS) would get into this and start grading physical bitcoins.
Thanks for posting.
Reckon they (the 62s) will end up being brass coins rather than silver The 0.1's (silvers without an equivalent brass) have a higher grade distribution, than the 0.5s and 1's that also have an equiv brass coin (which I am pretty sure is all bundled together in 1 pop report, if not for all, then definately for some )
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Very true Ducatitalia. ANACS do not know about those old slabs that have been cracked and resubmitted and they will appear as additional new slabs, and the old ones will still have an entry
Also .... each of the unique varieties of coins that Mike did, will not be represented by a separate population report. Some of them are merged together as I recall. So same year, and same denomination, but different series or different metal could well be bundled together as a single population.
2013 0.5 silver / brass and also 2013 1.0 silver / brass spring to mind, as well as perhaps the 5 and 25 BTC series 1's and 2's (need to check those ones). I am pretty sure they have split out 2011 s1 and s2 though (due to the Casacius error in s1). The gilded coins have been split out from the ungilded though (definately the 1's, not sure on the 10's).
Let me know what ANACS reference numbers you are short DF, and I will try and help fill in any blanks.
It looks like the pop reports are there again, if you go through the certification search, they are then shown for the coin queried
Added a whole gob of data and a bit of wild-ass speculation. Need a ref# for the 2014 Bowl coin if available...
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January 04, 2016, 10:13:49 PM |
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Look at tookdk 's sale thread, he has a graded bowl coin on there
Good work fella. Looks like I was right on the bundling of coins together, but not entirely right which ones. Thanks for clarifying
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January 04, 2016, 11:06:08 PM |
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Looks good thanks. There is less MS70's than i thought, I seen one for sale here not long ago, was that you Blazed?
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January 04, 2016, 11:12:25 PM |
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Looks good thanks. There is less MS70's than i thought, I seen one for sale here not long ago, was that you Blazed?
Blazed sold a MS70 tenth a while back, only MS70 I've seen for sale around these parts. No one seems to want to admit to having MS70 singles or the supposedly one-of-a-kinda MS70 half. I'd love to sort out the breakdown between MS70 all-silver singles and MS70 gilt silver singles, tho! That'd be a great data point. Also I have no idea how current the data is. If anyone has an open ANACS order or plans to send one in soon, feel free to let me know and we can track changes...
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January 04, 2016, 11:17:07 PM |
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Thanks for the effort dazedfool, much appreciated.
I am liking the position of my ms68 nickel...
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The data is definately current, and updated promptly.
As soon as your gradings are available on the portal, they have been added to the population report (even before they are imaged, and return shipped)
I have seen this with a batch that is at ANACS currently
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There is quite an issue with their reporting. Example - Doesn't even show a 25BTC coin filling the chart. If you check the cert number that Blazed gave you, you will not see an indication of it being a 25BTC even though the actual grade shows it is. I have confirmed this with a few cert numbers. So, your chart shows the 25Bitcoin simply as a blank variety. (Not your fault, just ANACS). I can help populate the chart. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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January 05, 2016, 04:34:48 AM |
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The population charts are pretty sad...ANACS needs to step up their game big time on these.
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There is quite an issue with their reporting. Example - Doesn't even show a 25BTC coin filling the chart. If you check the cert number that Blazed gave you, you will not see an indication of it being a 25BTC even though the actual grade shows it is. I have confirmed this with a few cert numbers. So, your chart shows the 25Bitcoin simply as a blank variety. (Not your fault, just ANACS). I can help populate the chart. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Totally right, but I think a little insight into population data is better than zero insight. If can help confirm graded rarities (like the 10 or 25 coins), I'd be happy to tweak the data...
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