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I have an idea.
December 17, 2012, 02:11:20 AM
#1
When you download the block chain it takes hours, and someone I know it taken the person several days to download it.
Which is too long. Why not make a block chain server, and make all bitcoin clients connect to it.
After all bitcoins need the internet, to make transfers.
We all connect to a blockchain.net, and we keep 2.5 Giga byte of data on there.
It would save thousands of giga byte of data. And everyone wouldn't need to keep a copy of it.
Why not this?
This would make all clients more snappy, fast to download, great for the average joe,
Its an idea. thoughts?
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Re: I have an idea.
December 17, 2012, 02:13:26 AM
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That's sort of what "lite" clients do, such as Electrum.
Any significantly advanced cryptocurrency is indistinguishable from Ponzi Tulips.
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Re: I have an idea.
December 17, 2012, 02:13:55 AM
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De-centralization is the whole point of bitcoins.
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Re: I have an idea.
December 17, 2012, 02:20:31 AM
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why doesn't
http://bitcoin.org/
do that?
Or incorporate that into all there clients?
This would make it easier for the average joe, or more convenient
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Re: I have an idea.
December 17, 2012, 02:24:43 AM
#5
There is an argument about this point. Decentralizing the network is important but your average joe doesn't have time for the whole blockchain just to use his bitcoins. Thus alternative clients which do exactly as you describe are in development. One is called Electrum and functions exactly this way. The idea is that advanced and experienced users download standard client and help decentralize the network and your average, or "noob", user can utilize the clients with central authority servers.
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Re: I have an idea.
December 17, 2012, 02:25:01 AM
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Because then the download for the client would be HUEG.
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Re: I have an idea.
December 17, 2012, 02:26:19 AM
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Quote from: lightlord on December 17, 2012, 02:20:31 AM
why doesn't
http://bitcoin.org/
do that?
Or incorporate that into all there clients?
This would make it easier for the average joe, or more convenient
Because, as mentioned, it is completely contrary to the design philosophy of Bitcoin itself.
Of course that brings us back to how Bitcoin was never really intended to be rolled out to the Random Q. Consumer in this form, but is instead only a proof of concept. But that opens a whole nother can of worms that no one wants to hear about.
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Re: I have an idea.
December 17, 2012, 02:27:31 AM
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Quote from: Third Way on December 17, 2012, 02:25:01 AM
Because then the download for the client would be HUEG.
The whole point of this, is to not make it huge?
Its already 2.5 Giga, for the block chain.
Instead you download a 10 MB file of the wallet.
And it associates or connects to a network,
on the server.
That eliminates the need for this download,
and its virtually instantaneous
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Re: I have an idea.
December 17, 2012, 02:31:01 AM
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that would be a central point of failure/control
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Re: I have an idea.
December 17, 2012, 02:36:03 AM
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Quote from: lightlord on December 17, 2012, 02:27:31 AM
Quote from: Third Way on December 17, 2012, 02:25:01 AM
Because then the download for the client would be HUEG.
The whole point of this, is to not make it huge?
Its already 2.5 Giga, for the block chain.
Instead you download a 10 MB file of the wallet.
And it associates or connects to a network,
on the server.
That eliminates the need for this download,
and its virtually instantaneous
If you still have misgivings about the current clients setup speed wait for 0.8 to be released. They have implemented things to reduce the time it takes to write the blockchain to the computer. With the new versions you can basically "set it and forget it" and come back within the same day and be done.
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Re: I have an idea.
December 17, 2012, 02:42:42 AM
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Light clients and web wallets already do exactly this. You and average Joe are free to use them if you want, and other people are free to not use them and run a full node instead if they want. That's decentralisation at work.
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December 20, 2012, 02:31:22 AM
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I keep a backup of the most current file on flash drive to speed up "catch up" times on new wallets.
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=====> Computer hardware
=====> Digital goods
=======> Invites & Accounts
=====> Collectibles
===> Services
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===> Gambling
=====> Games and rounds
=====> Investor-based games
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===> Lending
=====> Long-term offers
===> Securities
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===> Service Announcements
=====> Micro Earnings
===> Service Discussion
=====> Web Wallets
=====> Exchanges
=> Trading Discussion
===> Scam Accusations
===> Reputation
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Other
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=> Meta
===> New forum software
===> Bitcoin Wiki
=> Politics & Society
=> Beginners & Help
=> Off-topic
=> Serious discussion
===> Ivory Tower
=> Archival
===> Корзина
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===> Chinese students
===> Obsolete (buying)
===> Obsolete (selling)
===> MultiBit
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Alternate cryptocurrencies
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=> Altcoin Discussion
=> Announcements (Altcoins)
===> Tokens (Altcoins)
=> Mining (Altcoins)
===> Pools (Altcoins)
=> Marketplace (Altcoins)
===> Service Announcements (Altcoins)
===> Service Discussion (Altcoins)
===> Bounties (Altcoins)
=> Speculation (Altcoins)
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Local
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=> العربية (Arabic)
===> العملات البديلة (Altcoins)
=====> النقاشات
===> إستفسارات و أسئلة المبتدئين
===> التعدين
===> النقاشات الأخرى
===> منصات التبادل
=> Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian)
===> Marketplace (Bahasa Indonesia)
===> Mining (Bahasa Indonesia)
===> Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia)
===> Trading dan Spekulasi
===> Ekonomi, Politik, dan Budaya
===> Topik Lainnya
=> Español (Spanish)
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=====> Servicios
=====> Trading y especulación
===> Hardware y Minería
===> Esquina Libre
===> Mercadillo
=====> Mexico
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=====> España
=====> Centroamerica y Caribe
===> Primeros pasos y ayuda
===> Altcoins (criptomonedas alternativas)
=====> Minería de altcoins
=====> Servicios
=====> Tokens (Español)
=> 中文 (Chinese)
===> 跳蚤市场
===> 山寨币
===> 媒体
===> 挖矿
===> 离题万里
=> Hrvatski (Croatian)
===> Trgovina
===> Altcoins (Hrvatski)
=====> Announcements (Hrvatski)
===> Off-topic (Hrvatski)
=> Deutsch (German)
===> Anfänger und Hilfe
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===> Marktplatz
=====> Auktionen
=====> Suche
=====> Biete
=> Ελληνικά (Greek)
===> Αγορά
===> Mining Discussion (Ελληνικά)
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=> עברית (Hebrew)
=> Français
===> Actualité et News
===> Débutants
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===> Mining et Hardware
===> Économie et spéculation
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=====> Produits et services
=====> Petites annonces
===> Le Bitcoin et la loi
===> Wiki, documentation et traduction
===> Développement et technique
===> Vos sites et projets
===> Hors-sujet
===> Altcoins (Français)
=====> Annonces
=> India
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=> Italiano (Italian)
===> Guide (Italiano)
===> Progetti
===> Discussioni avanzate e sviluppo
===> Trading, analisi e speculazione
===> Mercato
=====> Mercato valute
=====> Beni
=====> Servizi
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=====> Hardware/Mining (Italiano)
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===> Accuse scam/truffe
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=====> Annunci
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===> Off-Topic (Italiano)
=> 日本語 (Japanese)
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=> Nederlands (Dutch)
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===> Beurzen
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===> Off-topic (Nederlands)
===> Meetings (Nederlands)
=> Nigeria (Naija)
===> Politics and society (Naija)
===> Off-topic (Naija)
=> 한국어 (Korean)
===> 대체코인 Alt Coins (한국어)
=> Pilipinas
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=====> Altcoin Announcements (Pilipinas)
===> Pamilihan
===> Others (Pilipinas)
=> Polski
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=> Português (Portuguese)
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===> Brasil
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=> Русский (Russian)
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=====> Токены
=====> Бayнти и aиpдpoпы
===> Хайпы
===> Работа
===> Разное
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=====> Новости
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=> Română (Romanian)
===> Anunturi importante
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===> Bine ai venit!
===> Presa
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=====> Anunturi Monede Alternative
=> Skandinavisk
=> Türkçe (Turkish)
===> Bitcoin Haberleri
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=> Other languages/locations
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