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January 28, 2016, 11:14:36 AM
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The transaction is around $0.08 at the moment. It is lower than most credit and debit card transactions. It might rise in the future.
The transaction fee of Bitcoins should not rise now because people are getting attracted too much in Bitcoins because of its Price, benefits, speed of transaction, own bank in pocket and the most its transaction fees.

There are many transactions now in the block chain. It is getting full. So people have to raise the fee to get transaction fee confirmed.
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January 28, 2016, 11:26:04 AM
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If bitcoin fees reached $1 to get the transaction confirmed, this will prevent people from using it for micro transactions and they will start looking for an alternative coin with less fees like Dogecoin for instance. maybe after block reward reaches 0 miners will increase the fees until UW become cheaper than BTC to transfer money
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January 28, 2016, 02:29:55 PM
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If bitcoin fees reached $1 to get the transaction confirmed, this will prevent people from using it for micro transactions and they will start looking for an alternative coin with less fees like Dogecoin for instance. maybe after block reward reaches 0 miners will increase the fees until UW become cheaper than BTC to transfer money
I agree with you this will be the time that people will look for a better alternatives,there are many coins in the market now and all of then have a very small transaction fee,the transaction is what appeal to both users and merchants

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January 28, 2016, 02:56:21 PM
Last edit: January 28, 2016, 05:16:10 PM by Quantus
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Great post OP
But this is not a 'if you build it they will come' situation. If you build out capacity with no way to reverse the changes and they don't come then we get even lower fees and possibly a collapse of our mining community leading to network security vulnerabilities.  

 I agree deflationary fee's are the way to go but we would need a collaborative protocol for adjusting fees based on bitcoins market cap but how would that work?


Part of the question about max block size is how do we decide on whats a fair fee for transactions based on the needs of the network at any given time to insure security. I don't have the answer to this. Sad


Ultimately your speculating on two things we can not control, our user base and Bitcoins market cap. This is hubris, it's risky without the ability to automatically reduce the max block size on demand to maintain a minimal level of fees to ensure (what still needs to be determined) a minimum level of security based on Bitcoins market cap. The deeper question is 'How thick do the walls of a safe need to be to protect its contents when the value of its contents is always changing?'

I believe we should go for a much bumpier and longer path but ultimately more safe. We should wait until the very last minute to up the block size and each time increase it in miniscule amounts (5% max) only when fees become so high that they start to impede adoption would you see the real consensus we need.
Yes in the short term we lose the ability to handle micro transactions but this would only be temporary, a few years at most if we continue to grow at the same rate and yes some people may jump ship to alt coins with lower fees but they would be doing so at the cost of security, stability and network effect (acceptance.)  

(I am a 1MB block supporter who thinks all users should be using Full-Node clients)
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February 09, 2016, 11:34:41 AM
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If bitcoin fees reached $1 to get the transaction confirmed, this will prevent people from using it for micro transactions and they will start looking for an alternative coin with less fees like Dogecoin for instance. maybe after block reward reaches 0 miners will increase the fees until UW become cheaper than BTC to transfer money

There is competition in the market. If the fee of bitcoin is too high, I will not use it. I will use other coins such as litcoin or Ethereum.
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