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January 03, 2016, 06:11:40 PM
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Few days back I created thread to ask for help on how to get my PayPal account limitation resolved https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1309843.0 (BTW, its resolved now)
It turns out user Spoetnik commented on my thread or suggested some ideas on how to get it resolved but I did not listen to the advice they gave and now they left me -ve feedback for the same.



If selling BTC for PayPal is the reason for them to give me -ve feedback then why have they not given -ve feedback to users like zazarb, ghibly79 etc ?

PS: I have already sent them PM requesting them to remove this -ve feedback and openly apologized on my thread if I hurt their feeling somehow but still they chose to ignore me and that's why I am creating this thread. So that I can take advice from the community.

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January 03, 2016, 06:43:02 PM
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Well he isn't in default trust so it really doesn't affect your score, the -ve feedback shows up under "untrusted feedbck" only.

It seems you have had a couple of successful trades with other members so by comparing his feedback vs. yours I doubt it would cause anyone not to want to do business with you based on that alone.


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January 03, 2016, 06:45:14 PM
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Well he isn't in default trust so it really doesn't affect your score, the -ve feedback shows up under "untrusted feedbck" only.

It seems you have had a couple of successful trades with other members so by comparing his feedback vs. yours I doubt it would cause anyone not to want to do business with you based on that alone.

Thanks for your soothing words.
I really have no idea how did I harm them. They've really taken it as their top most priority to ensure that I don't deal here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1309843.msg13438187#msg13438187

EDIT: Yes, that's what they want. I should not trade BTC using PayPal: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1309843.msg13438376#msg13438376

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January 05, 2016, 12:14:42 AM
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This guy got caught red handed knowingly breaking the Paypal TOS.
He demanded i help him hide his behavior after the fact.
When i told him i would not he locked his original topic + deleting every single comment he had made asking for help etc.

A week or so later i caught him by accident unlocking the topic and changing his story etc.
He later is now lying about it all.. after the fact.

i did try hard to help him with Paypal as best i could.
When he said he had been caught more than once before and he did not want my help
and that he would simply wright off the money and hide his tracks i said NOW you are being suspicious and i won't help you anymore.
He never did say thank your either.
He is playing games making it seem like i was out to get him when all i did was help the guy.

Why did i try ?
Simple.. He posted a topic in the off-topic forum section asking for help with his locked Paypal account.
All that matters is he went FULL sketchy on me hard and i said i won't help you anymore.

Then he went crazy and deleted about 20 comments and locked the topic
and sent me an angry PM demanding i remove my comment where i quoted him (to help him cover his tracks)
So i told him fuck that.. not happening
I quoted him PROVING he had been caught more than once.. there by proving he had been given
the same exact email i got from Paypal (where they tell you the TOS was broken by using crypto with them)

- He desperatly wants all trace of this hidden from the public.
- He has under his avatar a slogan here "Buying / selling Bitcoin with Paypal" (against their TOS)
- He KNOWS it's against their TOS because he admitted he had been caught and lost many hundred of dollars previously. (many times)

This guy has demonstrated extreme dishonesty and is very much deserving of a negative rating.
i am sure he will cook up another batch of lies etc and run around unlocking / locking topics again. (trying to rewrite history)

He had asked for help and i gave him the best advice he get on the matter i AM an authority on this issue with lots of experience !
he didn't want help though.. he wanted help to keep violating Paypal TOS by running a Payapl forum business here putting users at risk.

EDIT:
Tried to fix my poor spelling sorry people Wink

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January 05, 2016, 12:20:51 AM
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Ignore this as if it were roadkill decaying on the double stripe.  That's my suggestion.  Let it go and be one with the universe.

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January 05, 2016, 12:25:35 AM
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Ignore this as if it were roadkill decaying on the double stripe.  That's my suggestion.  Let it go and be one with the universe.

What you are saying is like a guy crying that he got two speeding tickets and had his license taken away.
Then he claims he had his license taken away unfairly by crooked cops.
Then you come along and side with him saying oh yeah cops are bad & ignore them etc.

He was caught .

He WILL be caught again by Paypal.
Somebody should be telling him to not jeopardize the users here with his dishonest activity.

EDIT:

This is the EMAIL he had to have gotten at least 2 times people.. now tell me WTF ?


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We noticed an issue with your account
service@intl.paypal.com
[email:removed];Sun 2013-12-15 6:59 AM
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We need your help
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Dear [Removed,]


We have reviewed your PayPal account and found that you have been involved
in the sale of electronic media exchange (such as electronic money or
digital currency). Per our current Acceptable Use Policy for Money Service
Businesses, PayPal may not be used for currency exchange including the sale
of Bitcoins
.

 
To continue using your PayPal account, we need some additional information
from you. Please provide us with a signed and notarized affidavit stating
that you understand and will comply with PayPal's terms and conditions.

 
The affidavit should include the following language. You can simply copy
and paste the text below to a blank document and then print it for
signature and notarization:
 
I, the undersigned, do affirm that I understand and will comply with
PayPal's policy regarding the use of PayPal accounts to sell electronic
currency. I understand that PayPal may not be used for the exchange of
electronic currency. I further affirm that any future violation of the
policy may result in immediate restricted access to the account.
 
Next Steps:
 
After you sign and notarize the affidavit, please log in to your account
and go to the Resolution Center for further instructions on how to send us
the document. If we don't hear from you by 01/15/2014, we will limit what
you can do with your account until the issue is resolved
.
 
We look forward to hearing from you and thank you for choosing PayPal as
your payment provider.
 
Sincerely,
Jennifer
PayPal Compliance Department
PayPal, an eBay Company
 
Please do not reply to this email address as it is not monitored and we
will not receive your response. You can get in touch with us by clicking
"Contact Us" at the bottom of any PayPal page.
 
Copyright © 1999-2013 PayPal. All rights reserved.


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