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January 02, 2013, 08:46:44 PM
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The Manchester City Council Tradings Standards Office is now looking into this. Any victims please contact P.Minshaw@manchester.gov.uk referencing complaint # 047774

Would you be willing to share your work with me so I can see what you've done on the CPC front? They have been on my mind since I first saw the bogus website. So far all I have done was attempt to contact them, pretending to be legitimately interested in purchasing from them. But they have not responded. I'd like to work together with you and do what we can to get them shut down before they victimize anyone else and are rewarded for their disgusting scam.

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January 03, 2013, 08:47:23 AM
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The Manchester City Council Tradings Standards Office is now looking into this. Any victims please contact P.Minshaw@manchester.gov.uk referencing complaint # 047774

Would you be willing to share your work with me so I can see what you've done on the CPC front? They have been on my mind since I first saw the bogus website. So far all I have done was attempt to contact them, pretending to be legitimately interested in purchasing from them. But they have not responded. I'd like to work together with you and do what we can to get them shut down before they victimize anyone else and are rewarded for their disgusting scam.

As formerly described I have contacted the Trading Standards Office with the evidence collected by BTCTalk in the three seperate CPC threads thus far. The TSO has confirmed that there is no company CPC Electronics registered in Manchester and that no company like that exists at the adress they supposedly exist at. At this point TSO would appreciate a victim to step forward (by monitoring the wallet adress we know there is at least one) to supply them with more information.
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January 03, 2013, 06:45:36 PM
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As formerly described I have contacted the Trading Standards Office with the evidence collected by BTCTalk in the three seperate CPC threads thus far. The TSO has confirmed that there is no company CPC Electronics registered in Manchester and that no company like that exists at the adress they supposedly exist at. At this point TSO would appreciate a victim to step forward (by monitoring the wallet adress we know there is at least one) to supply them with more information.
I have just sent a mail to P.Minshaw@manchester.gov.uk, subject complaint # 047774 and explained my case. I asked Mr. Minshaw if the information I provided was clear and to keep me informed of this case. To be continued....
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January 03, 2013, 07:22:38 PM
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"violatilty of the bitcoin market"?! LOL

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January 03, 2013, 07:25:31 PM
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Great, I'm glad to see some progress! Please keep us all posted on how it goes and I'm here if you want help!  Smiley

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January 03, 2013, 10:11:55 PM
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Great, I'm glad to see some progress! Please keep us all posted on how it goes and I'm here if you want help!  Smiley

Now we need to figure out which Bitcoiner was behind this endeavor. I'm pretty sure he/she is a member of this forum.

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January 03, 2013, 10:28:30 PM
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No victim, no crime?  It appears that so far nobody fell for this scam, and without victims stepping forward, authorities will not act. Fair enough. In the meantime, we should try and guess who is behind this, per Phinn's suggestion. Writing style, misspellings, mindset...

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January 04, 2013, 02:17:31 AM
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No victim, no crime?  It appears that so far nobody fell for this scam, and without victims stepping forward, authorities will not act. Fair enough. In the meantime, we should try and guess who is behind this, per Phinn's suggestion. Writing style, misspellings, mindset...

Why waste time?
It is likely they used a CC/paypal to pay for the domain hosting.
Just pass the domain register/hosting to the  TS in Manchester & visa versa, get them talking then the person with the case can pull the details back from the TS in Manchester and we can spread the love around, ESP. if we can tie the name/cc to a bit-coin chain.

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January 04, 2013, 05:46:47 AM
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Now we need to figure out which Bitcoiner was behind this endeavor. I'm pretty sure he/she is a member of this forum.

That is highly likely. Perhaps even posting in this thread under a code-name like "Phinnaeus"... just kidding!  Cheesy

But you're probably right and the perps are among us...

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January 04, 2013, 05:50:03 AM
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No victim, no crime?  It appears that so far nobody fell for this scam, and without victims stepping forward, authorities will not act. Fair enough. In the meantime, we should try and guess who is behind this, per Phinn's suggestion. Writing style, misspellings, mindset...

Hmmm... I dunno if I agree with the "no victim, no crime" logic... Something like using a drug or hiring a prostitute would be a "victimless crime", but in this case these people are actually attempting to do real harm to others. If you shoot at someone you don't get off the hook if you miss... nor does a kidnapper get off the hook because the little girl got away. By the same logic, I don't think a thief should be off the hook because they failed to steal -- they tried, and thus are guilty.

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January 04, 2013, 06:16:10 AM
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Niko, if you have read this thread carefully then you should have noticed that there is at least one victim reported to the TSO.
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January 04, 2013, 12:02:51 PM
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Niko, if you have read this thread carefully then you should have noticed that there is at least one victim reported to the TSO.
Just searched this thread for "tso" and for "order" and failed to find the victim. Would you please point to the specific post?

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January 04, 2013, 12:11:24 PM
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....At this point TSO would appreciate a victim to step forward (by monitoring the wallet adress we know there is at least one) to supply them with more information.


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January 04, 2013, 12:19:29 PM
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Niko, if you have read this thread carefully then you should have noticed that there is at least one victim reported to the TSO.
Just searched this thread for "tso" and for "order" and failed to find the victim. Would you please point to the specific post?
Hi,
I am the victim: Posted it here
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=131446.msg1432754#msg1432754
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January 04, 2013, 12:21:38 PM
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The Manchester City Council Tradings Standards Office is now looking into this. Any victims please contact P.Minshaw@manchester.gov.uk referencing complaint # 047774

I have mailed to the person you mentioned. Got this answer:
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Manchester Trading Standards acts for Consumers in Manchester however I have contacted this office address in Manchester this company is not trading from there and has never traded there.

As your transaction was on line any potential offences would have been committed where you are. I suggest you contact any enforcement agencies Police / Trading Standards in your country. you may also consider contacting your bank/card issuer as they may be able to reclaim the monies.

Sorry I cannot be of any further help.


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Manchester City Council
1Hammerstone Rd
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Tel :0161 234 1556
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January 04, 2013, 12:31:57 PM
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Niko, if you have read this thread carefully then you should have noticed that there is at least one victim reported to the TSO.
Just searched this thread for "tso" and for "order" and failed to find the victim. Would you please point to the specific post?
Hi,
I am the victim: Posted it here
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=131446.msg1432754#msg1432754
Thanks for clarifying.

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January 04, 2013, 12:42:22 PM
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The Manchester City Council Tradings Standards Office is now looking into this. Any victims please contact P.Minshaw@manchester.gov.uk referencing complaint # 047774

I have mailed to the person you mentioned. Got this answer:
Dear Mr

Manchester Trading Standards acts for Consumers in Manchester however I have contacted this office address in Manchester this company is not trading from there and has never traded there.

As your transaction was on line any potential offences would have been committed where you are. I suggest you contact any enforcement agencies Police / Trading Standards in your country. you may also consider contacting your bank/card issuer as they may be able to reclaim the monies.

Sorry I cannot be of any further help.


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January 05, 2013, 04:55:52 PM
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Today I filled a new case to the "Europees Consumenten Centrum"   http://www.eccnl.eu/page/en.
They are gonna investigate this case.
It is really clear for me that I am robbed for 72.109 BTC :-(
If you investigate the transfer: http://blockchain.info/address/1Fva7yv31SET3n7fBhqyRZSjAiVQ8Rj3Zg it is clear that just little over an hour has passed before the scammer withdraw-ed the amount in two transactions.
To be continued
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January 05, 2013, 05:26:21 PM
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Today I filled a new case to the "Europees Consumenten Centrum"   http://www.eccnl.eu/page/en.
They are gonna investigate this case.
It is really clear for me that I am robbed for 72.109 BTC :-(
If you investigate the transfer: http://blockchain.info/address/1Fva7yv31SET3n7fBhqyRZSjAiVQ8Rj3Zg it is clear that just little over an hour has passed before the scammer withdraw-ed the amount in two transactions.
To be continued

Wow, they got you for that much? Very sorry to hear that.  Undecided

Try not to feel too bad... when I was about 15 years old I spent about $800 (practically every penny I had) to order this really expensive paintball gun. I ordered from a website I had dealt with several times, and believed it was safe. But it just so happened they "went out of business" and declared bankruptcy after taking everyone's Christmas season orders and I got screwed. Reported them to authorities and nothing was ever done about it.  Sad

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January 05, 2013, 08:40:35 PM
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Today I filled a new case to the "Europees Consumenten Centrum"   http://www.eccnl.eu/page/en.
They are gonna investigate this case.
It is really clear for me that I am robbed for 72.109 BTC :-(
If you investigate the transfer: http://blockchain.info/address/1Fva7yv31SET3n7fBhqyRZSjAiVQ8Rj3Zg it is clear that just little over an hour has passed before the scammer withdraw-ed the amount in two transactions.
To be continued
Have you tried reporting this scam to the local police? They must have a cyber/economic crime unit, and may be able to get warrants for ISP information. Chances are slim, but it's not impossible.




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