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January 07, 2016, 06:02:05 PM
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If they don't pay him out then they're effectively finished here.

They have a choice - pay him the 84 bitcoin & continue running a trusted site & make profits for an unlimited time

Or

Scam him & pretty much end their business with a destroyed reputation over 84 bitcoin.

For the above reason I'm confident they'll pay him out.

Maybe there's a third option: come up with a semi-convincing story about how OP cheated.

He played "live roulette", which generally means FJ paid some third-party company to spin a roulette wheel and broadcast video of it happening, while FJ took bets on the outcome. I don't know what assurance FJ have that the company spinning the wheel is broadcasting it live rather than with a 60 second delay. Such a delay would give them plenty of time to place bets on the number that already came up.

I guess this kind of cheating is what they are worried about, but I've no idea how you would go about proving or disproving it. I expect you just have to trust the third-party video feed provider that they won't play against you, felay the feed, use an unbalanced wheel, etc. Provable fairness cuts both ways.

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January 07, 2016, 06:28:43 PM
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If they don't pay him out then they're effectively finished here.

They have a choice - pay him the 84 bitcoin & continue running a trusted site & make profits for an unlimited time

Or

Scam him & pretty much end their business with a destroyed reputation over 84 bitcoin.

For the above reason I'm confident they'll pay him out.

Maybe there's a third option: come up with a semi-convincing story about how OP cheated.

He played "live roulette", which generally means FJ paid some third-party company to spin a roulette wheel and broadcast video of it happening, while FJ took bets on the outcome. I don't know what assurance FJ have that the company spinning the wheel is broadcasting it live rather than with a 60 second delay. Such a delay would give them plenty of time to place bets on the number that already came up.

I guess this kind of cheating is what they are worried about, but I've no idea how you would go about proving or disproving it. I expect you just have to trust the third-party video feed provider that they won't play against you, felay the feed, use an unbalanced wheel, etc. Provable fairness cuts both ways.

This is certainly an option. This is why i really do not like the third party games that are provided to the various casinos. There is no way of really proving to the player and the house that everything is provably fair and not being manipulated. This is why i avoid all those games.
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January 07, 2016, 06:43:46 PM
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Since it was such a large amount, FJ had to approve it, but within a couple days it was good to go, and I was very happy with it.


This should've been your first alarm bell. There is absolutely no reason for them to stall withdrawal for "a couple of days". What the actual fuck?

My first thought would be : insolvent, scam, dishonest.




Most btc books and casinos dont have a proper bankroll, and operate on the assumption that they will never face a big downswing. But when it happens - they stall, bring up the "fraud team", accuse you of cheating, etc.

Dont have any illusions - if they will decide that its more profitable for them to peace out with your coins and open a new site - they will do it INSTANTLY.
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January 08, 2016, 01:43:38 AM
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If they don't pay him out then they're effectively finished here.

They have a choice - pay him the 84 bitcoin & continue running a trusted site & make profits for an unlimited time

Or

Scam him & pretty much end their business with a destroyed reputation over 84 bitcoin.

For the above reason I'm confident they'll pay him out.

Maybe there's a third option: come up with a semi-convincing story about how OP cheated.

He played "live roulette", which generally means FJ paid some third-party company to spin a roulette wheel and broadcast video of it happening, while FJ took bets on the outcome. I don't know what assurance FJ have that the company spinning the wheel is broadcasting it live rather than with a 60 second delay. Such a delay would give them plenty of time to place bets on the number that already came up.

I guess this kind of cheating is what they are worried about, but I've no idea how you would go about proving or disproving it. I expect you just have to trust the third-party video feed provider that they won't play against you, felay the feed, use an unbalanced wheel, etc. Provable fairness cuts both ways.

In this scenario, the only way it would be feasible is to have the live casino provider issue a statement about how something was taken advantage I would think.  There have been many big winners in live casinos posted here and it is perfectly feasible to legitimately win 84 btc.  FJ must do the appropriate due diligence but FJ is trusted and if it is found to be legitimate, I do expect OP to be paid in full. 

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January 08, 2016, 06:40:22 AM
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maybe their still raising funds to pay the 84 BTC payout. a big wake up call not to withdraw big amount in one go,


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January 08, 2016, 06:42:58 AM
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maybe their still raising funds to pay the 84 BTC payout. a big wake up call not to withdraw big amount in one go,

They said they have their wallet filled.

It's just a matter of time. I just have to be patient. Only one week left!
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January 08, 2016, 07:02:16 AM
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hope this gets worked out for you, they always seemed like a reputable site to me.
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January 08, 2016, 08:26:44 AM
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Maybe there's a third option: come up with a semi-convincing story about how OP cheated.

He played "live roulette", which generally means FJ paid some third-party company to spin a roulette wheel and broadcast video of it happening, while FJ took bets on the outcome. I don't know what assurance FJ have that the company spinning the wheel is broadcasting it live rather than with a 60 second delay. Such a delay would give them plenty of time to place bets on the number that already came up.

I guess this kind of cheating is what they are worried about, but I've no idea how you would go about proving or disproving it. I expect you just have to trust the third-party video feed provider that they won't play against you, felay the feed, use an unbalanced wheel, etc. Provable fairness cuts both ways.

I believe 99% fortunejack will pay ethandelong . just it.
Have you played at fortunejack before on live casino? You can chat the dealer and say hi or ask whatever you want to ask and they will answer immediately . so there is no way to cheated or delayed video stream 60 secs as you said I think.
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January 08, 2016, 08:32:45 AM
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Maybe there's a third option: come up with a semi-convincing story about how OP cheated.

He played "live roulette", which generally means FJ paid some third-party company to spin a roulette wheel and broadcast video of it happening, while FJ took bets on the outcome. I don't know what assurance FJ have that the company spinning the wheel is broadcasting it live rather than with a 60 second delay. Such a delay would give them plenty of time to place bets on the number that already came up.

I guess this kind of cheating is what they are worried about, but I've no idea how you would go about proving or disproving it. I expect you just have to trust the third-party video feed provider that they won't play against you, felay the feed, use an unbalanced wheel, etc. Provable fairness cuts both ways.

I believe 99% fortunejack will pay ethandelong . just it.
Have you played at fortunejack before on live casino? You can chat the dealer and say hi or ask whatever you want to ask and they will answer immediately . so there is no way to cheated or delayed video stream 60 secs as you said I think.

Yea like I said I'm not worried about it. Just anxious Smiley

Just gotta be patient for now. Only 1 week left (hopefully)!
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January 12, 2016, 02:33:53 PM
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Hey everyone, just wanted to update to let you know I received my 84 BTC.

Thank you FJ for approving my win and boosting your credibility as a reliable online BTC casino!

Thanks for all of your support guys!
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January 12, 2016, 02:37:05 PM
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Hey everyone, just wanted to update to let you know I received my 84 BTC.

Thank you FJ for approving my win and boosting your credibility as a reliable online BTC casino!

Thanks for all of your support guys!

I know you would get paid, cause FJ likes doing such check after large winnings, like they did to the bj guys and kwenibo- slot queen.

And i know you can't cheat cause if they think you cheated, it means that their systems are buggy.

Congrats dude, you are so lucky one, i think you should enjoy this big profit.
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January 12, 2016, 02:41:19 PM
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Hey everyone, just wanted to update to let you know I received my 84 BTC.

Thank you FJ for approving my win and boosting your credibility as a reliable online BTC casino!

Thanks for all of your support guys!

Thanks for the update and congrats for your mind boggling win. It seems this thread (and the pressure of everyone saying it is too slow) pushes FJ to finish it in 8 days instead of "10 business days minimum". Well done FJ. Cheesy

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January 12, 2016, 03:17:00 PM
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Hey everyone, just wanted to update to let you know I received my 84 BTC.

Thank you FJ for approving my win and boosting your credibility as a reliable online BTC casino!

Thanks for all of your support guys!

Congratulations to you. This really proves that FortuneJack is a very good casino, although, they did take some time to probably verify a few things but still they showed that they're legit and professionals, which is commendable.

Maybe you should now share with us some of the strategies, play tips so we can maybe try our luck and win too? Smiley

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January 12, 2016, 03:27:36 PM
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Hey everyone, just wanted to update to let you know I received my 84 BTC.

Thank you FJ for approving my win and boosting your credibility as a reliable online BTC casino!

Thanks for all of your support guys!

Congratulations to you. This really proves that FortuneJack is a very good casino, although, they did take some time to probably verify a few things but still they showed that they're legit and professionals, which is commendable.

Maybe you should now share with us some of the strategies, play tips so we can maybe try our luck and win too? Smiley

I think he already mentioned it that it is pure lucky to win that much because he is still new here. There is no way that there is some strategy in roullete because it is almost the same as dice only pure luck to get some winning there. Like him using all in on number 1 and yes it is hit right away
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January 12, 2016, 03:28:15 PM
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Hey everyone, just wanted to update to let you know I received my 84 BTC.

Thank you FJ for approving my win and boosting your credibility as a reliable online BTC casino!

Thanks for all of your support guys!
im glad you recieved your winnings.!
good luck in your future gambling Smiley
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January 12, 2016, 03:30:04 PM
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Congratz mate, enjoy your winnings and have a good life for a while and relax and skip casino for now.  Tongue


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January 12, 2016, 03:32:48 PM
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Hey everyone, just wanted to update to let you know I received my 84 BTC.

Thank you FJ for approving my win and boosting your credibility as a reliable online BTC casino!

Thanks for all of your support guys!

Good to hear that update. So now we know that waiting for a week or two for a big withdrawal is a standard practice in FJ and there is no need for users to be panic.

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January 12, 2016, 03:34:02 PM
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I'm glad everything is sorted out now, I'm hoping you will spend those bitcoins very wisely now
Don't waste it all on gambling again.
Enjoy your winnings mate!
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January 12, 2016, 03:41:20 PM
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Hey everyone, just wanted to update to let you know I received my 84 BTC.

Thank you FJ for approving my win and boosting your credibility as a reliable online BTC casino!

Thanks for all of your support guys!

Glad to see you receive payment FortuneJack definitely pay if you play fair, such as the user previously won with higher numbers
but I still wonder how you play, whether you have vidio when you play casino?
so we can understand how you play  Grin

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January 12, 2016, 03:47:07 PM
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Thanks for keeping us updated

Now some of us can continue to gamble safely on FJ

I can understand their reasoning for holding back such a big amount though.
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