Joel_Jantsen (OP)
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January 06, 2016, 08:19:43 PM |
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I wanted to know how a live roulette works and how they assure its provably fair.Like do they really have someone behind the screen who is being live broadcasting the game or its just a auto-bot again? I know the question is really silly but just couldn't seem to get this off my head.All answers appreciated .
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January 06, 2016, 08:37:53 PM |
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I wanted to know how a live roulette works and how they assure its provably fair.Like do they really have someone behind the screen who is being live broadcasting the game or its just a auto-bot again? I know the question is really silly but just couldn't seem to get this off my head.All answers appreciated .
Well it really depends on the casino and the "Live" version provider. Usually there are a few providers and the games are as fair as they can get on a video roulette. I dont really think there is a real way of showing that it is provably fair, best you can ask is that the service they provide is legal and checked by an agency. Other than that, who knows what goes on there. |
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January 06, 2016, 08:42:19 PM |
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i have tested more live roulette to italian gambling site (because in italy you can play only to italian site) and have report 2-3 site more time later to the italian journal, because in live roulette, 2-3 site see only the girl and the roulette is more distant and don't see where he stopped the ball
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sherbyspark
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January 07, 2016, 12:13:38 AM |
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Yes its live. The way its probably fair is that sites like Cloudbet and all have this chat window. So each time someone joins, they welcome them by there username. So its obvious its live. And since its a continous shot, they can't be moving the ball to any other place.
Another theory is rigging the result through some magnet system, but in that you will have to again consider the fact that it is not just a single person playing. So they could do some change so as to alter the result making them in net profits, however even in that you would easily catch a slight change of motion of the ball, and with black and red it is impossible to be so precise.
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January 07, 2016, 12:20:06 AM |
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Yes its live. The way its probably fair is that sites like Cloudbet and all have this chat window. So each time someone joins, they welcome them by there username. So its obvious its live. And since its a continous shot, they can't be moving the ball to any other place.
Another theory is rigging the result through some magnet system, but in that you will have to again consider the fact that it is not just a single person playing. So they could do some change so as to alter the result making them in net profits, however even in that you would easily catch a slight change of motion of the ball, and with black and red it is impossible to be so precise.
Which casino have a real live roulette wheel? I assumed it was all based on random numbers using house edge. Didn't think it was an actual live wheel. |
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sherbyspark
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January 07, 2016, 12:25:58 AM |
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Yes its live. The way its probably fair is that sites like Cloudbet and all have this chat window. So each time someone joins, they welcome them by there username. So its obvious its live. And since its a continous shot, they can't be moving the ball to any other place.
Another theory is rigging the result through some magnet system, but in that you will have to again consider the fact that it is not just a single person playing. So they could do some change so as to alter the result making them in net profits, however even in that you would easily catch a slight change of motion of the ball, and with black and red it is impossible to be so precise.
Which casino have a real live roulette wheel? I assumed it was all based on random numbers using house edge. Didn't think it was an actual live wheel. Cloudbet / mbit casino and I think the one I have in my sig link also has a live casino. Live casinos would be the ones where you have actual people on the camera and will have proof to show its actually live(calling out usernames who join is an example) . |
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January 07, 2016, 12:41:20 AM |
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Well if it's not live streaming of actual people(staff) running the game, then it isn't live obviously. Roulette by itself in live version can not be
considered as provably fair, as it should be real non virtual game. If you are worried about possibility of staging results, i don't think there's a way to
clear your doubts, but you can choose a trusted casino to play on. From casino point, players have 0 chance of cheating, unless they have a deal with someone from staff that is..
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sherbyspark
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January 07, 2016, 12:48:06 AM |
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but you can choose a trusted casino to play on. From casino point, players have 0 chance of cheating, unless they have a deal with someone from staff that is..
That doesn't matter much . One thing to note is that all the live casinos that you see on sites, aren't hosted by casinos themselves. They are live rooms which sell their service to these casinos for a fixed price. You will probably even see the same rooms on multiple sites. The other thing to think about fairness is that since those live services are sold on a plan basis, they would not cheat/rig as they gain nothing themselves. |
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January 07, 2016, 02:23:00 AM |
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but you can choose a trusted casino to play on. From casino point, players have 0 chance of cheating, unless they have a deal with someone from staff that is..
That doesn't matter much . One thing to note is that all the live casinos that you see on sites, aren't hosted by casinos themselves. They are live rooms which sell their service to these casinos for a fixed price. You will probably even see the same rooms on multiple sites. The other thing to think about fairness is that since those live services are sold on a plan basis, they would not cheat/rig as they gain nothing themselves. I have to admit that i didn't know that those are separate services, i always assumed they are owned and runned by casinos themselves. In regards to fairness of those services, i beg to differ, since they could easily "earn" multiple times their profit from runing a honest service in just a single staged hand. You could compare the case with exchange sites as they also earn a lot just by operating, but still, over the years many have turned up to be not so interested in running a honest business. |
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January 07, 2016, 02:52:54 AM |
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I wanted to know how a live roulette works and how they assure its provably fair.Like do they really have someone behind the screen who is being live broadcasting the game or its just a auto-bot again? I know the question is really silly but just couldn't seem to get this off my head.All answers appreciated .
Some people said live roulette is more rigged than not live roulette. i don't know is it right or not, because i never play live casino roulette. i prefer blackjack and poker than roulette |
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January 07, 2016, 03:14:00 AM |
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Guys, live roulette is interesting thing  You could google roulette wheels manufactures and you will see some very interesting features offered: Like 100% prediction on which number will stop the ball. And it's official, legal feature. |
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January 07, 2016, 03:33:19 AM |
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i dont think live roulette have provably fair system lol. its depend on live mode isnt it.?
but i think on live roulette theres a way for them to cheat player too.. i dont really like to play roulette its quite hard to win unless have alot of funds.
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January 07, 2016, 03:48:42 AM |
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i dont think live roulette have provably fair system lol. its depend on live mode isnt it.?
but i think on live roulette theres a way for them to cheat player too.. i dont really like to play roulette its quite hard to win unless have alot of funds.
Anything can be rigged, with provable fair system it becomes a little difficult but with live version without any provable fairness its very easy. I like playing roulette and have made profit from it in the past but it can be hard and requires good funds management. |
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January 07, 2016, 04:05:09 AM |
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I wanted to know how a live roulette works and how they assure its provably fair.Like do they really have someone behind the screen who is being live broadcasting the game or its just a auto-bot again? I know the question is really silly but just couldn't seem to get this off my head.All answers appreciated .
live roulette is for sure fair , you don't have to check the provably fair system cause everything is happening live there are plenty of bitcoin sites offering it once you enter the dealer will welcome you and you will play while other players are also playing |
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January 07, 2016, 06:04:02 AM |
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For those that dont understand about provably faor should atop commenting here since you are embarrasing yourself. There cant be any provably fair with live game, provably means the resukt is already there even before you click and play the game but the result is hidden in hash so this doesnt really applied to live game at all
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January 07, 2016, 06:06:18 AM |
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Well if it's not live streaming of actual people(staff) running the game, then it isn't live obviously. Roulette by itself in live version can not be
considered as provably fair, as it should be real non virtual game. If you are worried about possibility of staging results, i don't think there's a way to
clear your doubts, but you can choose a trusted casino to play on. From casino point, players have 0 chance of cheating, unless they have a deal with someone from staff that is..
Well in that case I am pretty sure a virtual provabily fair random generator is safer then a live roulette. Since you are not there in person who knows if its rigged or not. Like someone mentioned before, there could easily be a magnet in the ball. |
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January 07, 2016, 06:21:45 AM |
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Well in that case I am pretty sure a virtual provabily fair random generator is safer then a live roulette. Since you are not there in person who knows if its rigged or not. Like someone mentioned before, there could easily be a magnet in the ball.
Provably fair RNG is the best and safer thing to use for gambling right now since it will be the only way for us gambler to know wether or not we have been cheated by the house. I've read it somewhere else that it is easy to land balls on roulette wheel as your wish if you trained to do it |
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January 07, 2016, 07:33:25 AM |
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I wanted to know how a live roulette works and how they assure its provably fair.Like do they really have someone behind the screen who is being live broadcasting the game or its just a auto-bot again? I know the question is really silly but just couldn't seem to get this off my head.All answers appreciated .
Well it really depends on the casino and the "Live" version provider. Usually there are a few providers and the games are as fair as they can get on a video roulette. I dont really think there is a real way of showing that it is provably fair, best you can ask is that the service they provide is legal and checked by an agency. Other than that, who knows what goes on there. But even when we're not really sure about the site's provably fair, we kept losing yet we kept playing still. I never really knew someone personally who won about 100btc on any gambling site here. Maybe we just have some hope. yes true everyone has the chance to win big but that's just it, all we have is just the chance. it stops there. |
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Joel_Jantsen (OP)
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January 07, 2016, 06:27:03 PM |
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Well it really depends on the casino and the "Live" version provider. Usually there are a few providers and the games are as fair as they can get on a video roulette. I dont really think there is a real way of showing that it is provably fair, best you can ask is that the service they provide is legal and checked by an agency. Other than that, who knows what goes on there. The point of my thread being,I literally wanted to know how can we make sure that it is provably fair.Thanks for the opinion though! |
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Joel_Jantsen (OP)
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January 07, 2016, 06:29:30 PM |
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Yes its live. The way its probably fair is that sites like Cloudbet and all have this chat window. So each time someone joins, they welcome them by there username. So its obvious its live. And since its a continous shot, they can't be moving the ball to any other place.
Another theory is rigging the result through some magnet system, but in that you will have to again consider the fact that it is not just a single person playing. So they could do some change so as to alter the result making them in net profits, however even in that you would easily catch a slight change of motion of the ball, and with black and red it is impossible to be so precise.
I doubt even auto bots can welcome you on live chats like those web cam scam chatrooms.They even respond to few of your commands ,but that's something else.Anyhow I will be keen on finding this out. |
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