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ragingazn628 (OP)
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December 21, 2012, 04:15:28 AM |
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I would like to invest into some ASICs what's a good place to buy one right now?
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ssateneth
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December 21, 2012, 04:16:23 AM |
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Nowhere. ASIC doesn't exist in the hands of an end-user yet.
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crazyates
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December 21, 2012, 05:54:02 AM |
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The 3 main sources of preorders for ASICs have all proven themselves trustworthy with FPGA units. BFL, bASIC, and Avalon can all pretty much be preordered with full confidence that you will get your hardware....eventually. I have my preorders in with BFL, as do a lot of other people, but any of those 3 will be fine.
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BR0KK
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December 21, 2012, 09:14:08 AM |
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How could someone recommend buying ASIC now .....
Open your eyes; your buying vaporware at all the current vendors!?
And you are the last in line; don't expect any profit. You'll get your ASIC right after al the others. Diff will be high then:/
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crazyates
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December 21, 2012, 05:25:59 PM |
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How could someone recommend buying ASIC now .....
Open your eyes; your buying vaporware at all the current vendors!?
And you are the last in line; don't expect any profit. You'll get your ASIC right after al the others. Diff will be high then:/
You need to open your eyes and realize that the nature of mining IS asics. If he's not going to get ASICs, then he might as well stop BTC. You need to stop blatantly spamming FUD. |
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BR0KK
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December 21, 2012, 09:45:53 PM |
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Why the hell do you recommend someone to buy vaporware?
All ASIC manufacturers will (propably but who knows for shure?) deliver...ASICs may be the future of BTC; yes that's foreseeable.... But when, how, what, working, at expected performance value and so forth ....
Please do not recommend newbies to buy into uncertain things.... What if everything goes south with ASIC?
Best advice I can give is:
Do not buy or invest into Bitcoin, unless you are 1k % certain and shure to loose everything you put in!
Ps: ASICs (especially of a certain vendor) are kind of a religion at the moment.... Don't talk bad (etc) about them or a shitstorm will follow:)
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Atruk
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December 21, 2012, 09:58:24 PM |
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How could someone recommend buying ASIC now .....
Open your eyes; your buying vaporware at all the current vendors!?
And you are the last in line; don't expect any profit. You'll get your ASIC right after al the others. Diff will be high then:/
You need to open your eyes and realize that the nature of mining IS asics. If he's not going to get ASICs, then he might as well stop BTC. You need to stop blatantly spamming FUD. Come on, there is more to BTC than mining... |
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BR0KK
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December 21, 2012, 10:06:48 PM |
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Then what's the common approach for newbies to get into BTC?
Mining .... Right? (So it was for me at first, how else could I get BTC?)
I didn't say that there is nothing else then mining.
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crazyates
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December 21, 2012, 10:46:28 PM |
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How could someone recommend buying ASIC now .....
Open your eyes; your buying vaporware at all the current vendors!?
And you are the last in line; don't expect any profit. You'll get your ASIC right after al the others. Diff will be high then:/
You need to open your eyes and realize that the nature of mining IS asics. If he's not going to get ASICs, then he might as well stop BTC. You need to stop blatantly spamming FUD. Come on, there is more to BTC than mining... I bolded my original comment to emphasis that I was talking specifically about mining. Of course there are other aspects, but we're in the mining subforum, and he's asking about buying hardware to mine on. I should probably have reworded the second sentence to this: "If he's not going to get ASICs, then he might as well not even mine." Best advice I can give is:
Do not buy or invest into Bitcoin, unless you are 1k % certain and shure to loose everything you put in!
Wait, you're saying not to invest in Bitcoin, or any ASIC manufacturers? Cuz either way, that is terrible advise, and really shows a lack of confidence in BTC (or BTC mining). The OP asked a question about where to buy ASICs, not your opinion about whether you should even be buying ASICs in the first place. I gave him the same advise I'd give anyone else. You turned OT and started spewing crap. |
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BR0KK
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December 21, 2012, 11:24:28 PM |
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Read the rest of the sentence and it makes sense again  ... As for my FUD spreading.... Might well be true that I wrote my own opinion about buying (investing) right now. I would find it usefull of someone would warn me of potential loss of BTC before I order... With full confidence... And yes as a clear thinking person I have my thoughts about the bitcoin market as is right now...that might even be a lack of "full confidence" |
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December 22, 2012, 12:37:48 AM |
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IMO,mining is far from not being profitable,with GPU's yes,FPGA's so so for now.ASIC's will make money,when the diff hits its plateau,you will make as much as you do with GPU's at the moment. 3gh now will be = to 30gh in the future,it will net you about the same income. My plan is to have about 250-300gh & should generate about 20 btc per week @ a network hashrate of 500TH. So,if you want to mine,start ordering your ASIC's now,I & many others are  |
"If you run into an asshole in the morning, you ran into an asshole. If you run into assholes all day long, you are the asshole." -Raylan Givens Got GOXXED ?? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KiqRpPiJAU&feature=youtu.be"An ASIC being late is perfectly normal, predictable, and legal..."Hashfast & BFL slogan  |
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December 22, 2012, 12:57:43 AM
Last edit: December 22, 2012, 01:35:55 AM by Nachtwind |
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So,if you want to mine,start ordering your ASIC's now,I & many others are ...and be one of those who will have to realise: "oh my god! They didnt deliver on their promise! my 9GH/W are actually 0.3GH/W and instead of delivering 1TH in total its only about 2GH at all..." Really.. if you bought a new GPU, wouldnt you first check on real life benchmarks (in other words results of a device that exists?) wouldnt you check out other people's thoughts if you were to buy some expensive stuff? I never fail to be surprised how dumb people become when it comes to greed or the possibility of attending a gold rush. If and only IF those asic promises are somewhat legitimate anyone who puts himself in the queue now wont have any special bonus left. So just keep your money or invest it in BTC directly, but buying some non existent hardware? Might as well give ti to me for the promise to deliver you some sort of hardware that will hash, microwave your food and be a harddist with at least 10TB storage space for just $400*.. Really... bitcoin never ceases to be interestering. Sometimes i regret not have studied social behaviour - this forum would be full of PhD Thesis about greed... ------------ *ETA 4 to 6 weeks |
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BR0KK
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December 22, 2012, 01:16:57 AM |
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^signed.... |
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squall1066
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December 22, 2012, 06:55:27 AM |
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Personally I have spread betted. If you can get something from each company and sit back, Who ever ships first does not matter anymore.
I'm not getting into the argument of will it happen, The proof this technology exist is here, It is only a matter of time, Remember, Not if, When!
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creativex
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December 22, 2012, 05:15:31 PM |
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Personally I have spread betted. If you can get something from each company and sit back, Who ever ships first does not matter anymore.
I'm not getting into the argument of will it happen, The proof this technology exist is here, It is only a matter of time, Remember, Not if, When! What is that, near $3700? That's a pretty big bet for many. |
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BR0KK
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December 22, 2012, 07:28:28 PM |
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That's like betting on every Color on the Roulette table. You'll loose anyway.
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crazyates
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December 22, 2012, 07:40:25 PM |
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That's like betting on every Color on the Roulette table. You'll loose anyway.
Except in this case, every color will win. The question is just which one will win first. Inclusive vs Exclusive. Your analogy is flawed. |
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BR0KK
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December 22, 2012, 09:06:13 PM |
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i can't imagine how the hell you can be so sure of that..... But hey there are people out there believe in "sensitive" water,health stones, talking with animals, remote viewing, scientology, or even good old grumpy god and such stuff.
Im ok with that as long as they do not evangelize other people (especially newbies that ask for help!) with their bullshit !!!
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