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April 04, 2013, 09:48:43 PM
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Actually, my friend lost over 50k in apparently incorrect stake generation. Sunny King has been notified of this potential bug.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=101820.msg1736759#msg1736759

That fixed it! Yay! Thank you!

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April 04, 2013, 10:46:08 PM
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(bump) Please feel free to post the details for the planned fix when ready, given you appreciate any external review.

The protocol upgrade involves replacing the proof-of-stake difficulty as the hash modifier for proof-of-stake (we call it stake modifier). The new stake modifier is 64 bit and derived from about 9 days worth of blocks after the coin generating the stake. When I get some time over next week I would talk a bit more about how it works.

Has any progress been made with this?
The 0.3 upgrade introduced some changes. However, no serious security analysis of the new code has been published yet.

Empirically though it's been 3 months and is standing up well to stress testing. PPCoin is proving itself just like Bitcoin had too...
That's a fallacy. The absence of bad news is not good news. You have to investigate other factors as well. Eg there is almost no incentive right now to do proper research. Thus it progresses slowly. Before full design documents have been published or reverse engineered, the security level is unknown.

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April 04, 2013, 10:51:14 PM
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That's a fallacy. The absence of bad news is not good news. You have to investigate other factors as well. Eg there is almost no incentive right now to do proper research. Thus it progresses slowly. Before full design documents have been published or reverse engineered, the security level is unknown.

I'll echo this.  PPCoin has made sweeping changes to the Bitcoin protocol and it's hard to really tell what will work and won't work in the long run.  One of the great things about Bitcoin was its simplicity in the protocol used to generate the network.  However, with PPCoin, a number of complexities have been added and it's unknown how well they will pan out in the long term.

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