FLYCOIN & XDEII Forums, Da UnCensored Versions

[Argon18]

Ya Know, the so called FLY AntiDump Taxation system is a complete failure
as ya price and trading volume shows.

Why Not get rid of all of da taxation schemes and da superfly , its doin nothin but hurtin dis coin.

AG18

The above was posted in da other Fly Forum , time before deleted 60 seconds, if there coin worked as well as their censoring , then all Fly would be worth something.

[1714921509]

1714921509

[1714921509]

1714921509

[1714921509]

1714921509

[1714921509]

1714921509

[siameze]

Ya Know, the so called FLY AntiDump Taxation system is a complete failure
as ya price and trading volume shows.

Why Not get rid of all of da taxation schemes and da superfly , its doin nothin but hurtin dis coin.

AG18

The above was posted in da other Fly Forum , time before deleted 60 seconds, if there coin worked as well as their censoring , then all Fly would be worth something.

So why not take the experiment a little further and simply modify the code a pinch and initiate a sybil attack or somesuch? I am of the mindset if that it can be broken so easily, then surely it must be exposed.

[Argon18]

So why not take the experiment a little further and simply modify the code a pinch and initiate a sybil attack or somesuch? I am of the mindset if that it can be broken so easily, then surely it must be exposed.

Ya know, their coin network & exchange has been down so much, da hackers need a workin network ta hack.   

hashProofOfStake <= [Coin-age] x [Target]      
[Coin-age] = [amount of coins] x [days in stake]      

By them keeping the amount of coins rare, they weakin the entire network security.
cynicSOB could take em out , if he had a mind too.

AG18


 

[anticlimax]

Well youve just proved how ethical I am. See, trolls spend days and days to dig up the worst most horrible facts they can produce, and the worst Ive ever read about me is, I stated FLY would be my one and only coin, and I broke my word on that. Ok fine. It also proves at the same time that , that is as bad as it gets, and if that is the worst ive ever done, you should feel very safe with me. If I had truly done terrible things , and a rotten scammer, it would be all over the forum, and its not, because I havent. Ive been upfront about XDEII, trouble started when you didnt think my team was worth being paid 1 XDE2 a day. LOL. Seriously?

Vegas

Because you have unflattering posts deleted like a fucking chicken shit bastard.

Billo, your post was deleted by a MOD, not me. That was on my unmoderated thread, where I could not delete ANY posts. Im a lot of things, but Im no chicken shit, and will face anyone , anytime, and have done many times over, even IRL too. Im the only one brave enough to finally stand up and say "Devs DONT work for free", and made a whole lot of people really mad. Ive made the first coin that is not completely decentralized, and that really ticked a lot of people off. So a chicken shit im not. If I was I would have shut down a long long time ago. Ive got THE most controversial coin out, and im doing just fine. I dont care if you hate me or my coin. I went into this knowing full well, my coin was going to be extremely controversial. Im not going anywhere. You still pissed about that stupid shit between me and your buddy there? Really? Im over that man, you should be too. Thats done. Its forgotten, or is it? It doesnt have to be.

Vegas

lol.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=internet+tough+guy

Looks like Vegas is makin threats toward Bill .  

Just Sayin,
AG18

Wtf..
Vegas has lost all credibility in my mind. What a "business man".

[Argon18]

First off @Pokeytex,
Dude sorry about ya coins.

Next
rebuttal to Vegas Comments, Ya ever da opportunist.

Hey Pokey 1970 FLY went to superfly. I think we need to rollback the chain. We need to talk with Kees. Also like Ive told everyone, you NEED to get an antikeylogger. Cryptopia needs to freeze that wallet.

You need premium

https://www.qfxsoftware.com/download.htm

Vegas

Now many that are not holding fly or think fly is too controlled. I want to point out some facts.

User Pokey had all his coins stolen from many different wallets from a trojan built into a mining software program. He will get back ALL of FLY his coins. He probably wont be getting back any of the other many coins that were stolen, and it was a LOT of money. So to those of you that dislike fly because it has some centralization, it is the EXACT reason this user will get all of his FLY coins back, and probably nothing else. \

Soon we will be adding Google Authenticator to the wallet. This will be a massive project. BUT we need it, badly. We are still a few months out.

First we have to make sure everyone has free withdrawals on Cryptopia.

Speaking of Cryptopia , I notified the owner of Cryptopia and he immediately paused trading on FLY.

So for those of you that have looked at FLY and might think its too controlled or too centralized or we are on the wrong exchange. Here is absolute proof , that I got it all right.

My ways are very abnormal and many people dont understand until something like this happens, and then it all becomes clear.

Bottom line: There is no safer place to put your money.  

For the rest of you, you NEED to buy keyscrambler premium $44 this confuses keyloggers and is specifically for crypto wallets

https://www.qfxsoftware.com/download.htm

Vegas

Geez , where ta begin .
Bad guy stole ~4100 Fly coins from Pokeytex , when he send em to da exchange , SuperFly Stole 1970 flycoins from da transmission.
Cryptopia guys were ACES and paused da market, nothin but respect for those guys.

Now Vegas ta be a nice guy and for da good PR (which he needs badly), would give da 1970 fly back ta Pokeytex.
Now Vegas explains why dis is da safest coin ever ,  
What he seems ta forget is da Superfly steals Fly from Transactions and interest from everyone every time.

Say ya got medical bills out of da blue and ya had to sell 4100 fly to pay for yer family treatment.
Superfly would steal that 1970 fly from ya when ya cashed out, dat mean you lose ~50% upon sellin, when ya need it most.
Ya should call dis da Payday coin in place of flycoin, cause it as big a rip off as Payday Loans.


It not that Flycoin is da safer coin, it dat Vegas is a better Thief than da hacker.  

Wasting ya money on the antikeylogger, Vegas is toutin.
http://ask-leo.com/is_there_a_way_to_bypass_keyloggers.html

Saetana
March 1, 2011 10:34 PM

I use a piece of free software called Keyscrambler (I'm using IE 9), this encrypts all login details/passwords as I am entering them. Obviously I use a security suite (Microsoft Security Essentials) plus Threatfire free version for backup but I like this add-on for a little additional security ;o)

As noted in the article and in my replies on other comments there is no tool that will protect you from sufficiently sophisticated keyloggers or malware. I'm concerned that people are getting a false sense of security and as a result dropping their guard.
Leo

Just Sayin,
AG18

[siameze]

Saetana
March 1, 2011 10:34 PM

I use a piece of free software called Keyscrambler (I'm using IE 9), this encrypts all login details/passwords as I am entering them. Obviously I use a security suite (Microsoft Security Essentials) plus Threatfire free version for backup but I like this add-on for a little additional security ;o)

As noted in the article and in my replies on other comments there is no tool that will protect you from sufficiently sophisticated keyloggers or malware. I'm concerned that people are getting a false sense of security and as a result dropping their guard.
Leo

I'll update this post if I stop laughing from reading `IE 9` and `Microsoft Security` in the same statement.

[billotronic]

Saetana
March 1, 2011 10:34 PM

I use a piece of free software called Keyscrambler (I'm using IE 9), this encrypts all login details/passwords as I am entering them. Obviously I use a security suite (Microsoft Security Essentials) plus Threatfire free version for backup but I like this add-on for a little additional security ;o)

As noted in the article and in my replies on other comments there is no tool that will protect you from sufficiently sophisticated keyloggers or malware. I'm concerned that people are getting a false sense of security and as a result dropping their guard.
Leo

I'll update this post if I stop laughing from reading `IE 9` and `Microsoft Security` in the same statement.

lol ffs and I thought I was cold...

yeah, milk shot out of my nose too

[siameze]

Any updates? I haven't heard a peep out of them since FLY went to moderated threads.

[Argon18]

Guys , I think many of you are starting to see the protection that fly gives. I can hardly name any coins that have not lost most/all of their value. When all other alts are falling apart and losing 95% of their value, FLY is still growing strong, and if you use it, the way its meant to be used (Hold long term), there are big profits to be made.

Vegas

That is quite true. I am holding other coins and the fall in price has been big. Plus, flycoin has staked two times for me today even though I do not own that much (about 7.9). Let's keep going fly!

Ya Know there a reason dat Math is important.

Fly MK in OCT 2015 was $ 312,071 .
                Now Fly MK is $ 99,002.

fer da mathematically challenge, that means Fly Price has divided in 3 in ~3 months, fer a over $212,000 LOSS!
Dat a Major Loss any way ya look at it.

Ya know Tradin Volume shows interest , dis is da interest in Fly in the past 24 hours
Volume (24h)    
  $ 0


Tune in next week ta see if Vegas can convince Fly holders he really does Shit GOLD!
Same Fly Time, Same FLY CHANNEL!!!  

Just Sayin,
AG18

[siameze]

Guys , I think many of you are starting to see the protection that fly gives. I can hardly name any coins that have not lost most/all of their value. When all other alts are falling apart and losing 95% of their value, FLY is still growing strong, and if you use it, the way its meant to be used (Hold long term), there are big profits to be made.

Vegas

That is quite true. I am holding other coins and the fall in price has been big. Plus, flycoin has staked two times for me today even though I do not own that much (about 7.9). Let's keep going fly!

Ya Know there a reason dat Math is important.

Fly MK in OCT 2015 was $ 312,071 .
                Now Fly MK is $ 99,002.

fer da mathematically challenge, that means Fly Price has divided in 3 in ~3 months, fer a over $212,000 LOSS!
Dat a Major Loss any way ya look at it.

Ya know Tradin Volume shows interest , dis is da interest in Fly in the past 24 hours
Volume (24h)    
  $ 0


Tune in next week ta see if Vegas can convince Fly holders he really does Shit GOLD!
Same Fly Time, Same FLY CHANNEL!!!  

Just Sayin,
AG18

On the off chance you find the exchange wallet actually working so you can trade.

[Argon18]

Flycoin 24 hour trading Volume da next day
Still $0     

Volume (24h)   
  $ 0

can't say Fly is not consistent!   

AG18

[Dromedar]

Just because my msg got deleted from Vegas i ll post it here once again.

Why should one swap? Is it going to be a success like Fly (lol).I like to bet that this Coin will fail just like Fly. No one bought Fly for days, just sells. The same will happen with XDE II.Vegas and his Muppets will be happy holding ~75% of maxsupply 

[TimC]

Just because my msg got deleted from Vegas i ll post it here once again.

Why should one swap? Is it going to be a success like Fly (lol).I like to bet that this Coin will fail just like Fly. No one bought Fly for days, just sells. The same will happen with XDE II.Vegas and his Muppets will be happy holding ~75% of maxsupply 

I guess FLY has the same 24 hour volume as XDE which is zero.

You, Sir, got it!

But Vegas and his Muppet-Team are working really hard...

At least they are creating and trying new things.

[TimC]

At least they are creating and trying new things.

They tried, but as we can see they failed! No one wants to buy his centralized Coins. I wonder how many of his puppets would have sold their Coins, if there wasnt this ridiculois fee. Just have a look at the richlist from Fly.. which investor with half a brain would buy HIS Coins?

This is a large world with all kinds of people all with different ideas. Some people may have bought this coins because of the fees. There could be even some people that bought because of low volume. Not everyone thinks the same.

[elgimpo]

No wonder TEAM FLY is changing the rules all of a sudden.

There has not been a single buy in well over a week. None. Nobody wants to touch it.
So much for the dedicated team of experts running the show.

Team FLY is absolutely to blame for the lack of interest. They have proven not to be trusted.
They really should have listened to people when they were called out on the bullshit move they are trying with XDE.

You dont tell the FLY community you are absolutely committee to one coin, it will be your only one.. ever and then start a greedy hostile takeover of another one. Promising 100% dedication and resources in both threads.
You dont tell the XDE community you will not go ahead with a takeover if they dont agree to it, then go ahead and do it anyway.

Who does that? Hostile takeovers are for scammers after all. Its no surprise to see they want to manipulate all the new coins into the 'trusted few' yet again by any means necessary. They dont care about XDE, Vegas just happens to be a bagholder and is stealing XDE's name in an attempt to hide the premine on the new coin. A premine that his team of trusted experts have concocted to give them a completely undeserved advantage. Its a shitful act that is plain to see.

The saddest thing about TEAM FLY is that they will ruin some pretty good reputations in various other trusted communities with their absolute greed and lies along the way.

Well known names from coins like Diamond are in TEAM FLY and will be exposed as supporters of this kind of behaviour. Their silence while all this goes down means they are absolutely complicit with the whole process.
These guys are all too happy to say nothing during the hostile takeover, allowing their alliance with TEAM FLY to turn their names into mud.. and it will, news spreads pretty fast around here.

[siameze]

No wonder TEAM FLY is changing the rules all of a sudden.

There has not been a single buy in well over a week. None. Nobody wants to touch it.
So much for the dedicated team of experts running the show.

Team FLY is absolutely to blame for the lack of interest. They have proven not to be trusted.
They really should have listened to people when they were called out on the bullshit move they are trying with XDE.

You dont tell the FLY community you are absolutely committee to one coin, it will be your only one.. ever and then start a greedy hostile takeover of another one. Promising 100% dedication and resources in both threads.
You dont tell the XDE community you will not go ahead with a takeover if they dont agree to it, then go ahead and do it anyway.

Who does that? Hostile takeovers are for scammers after all. Its no surprise to see they want to manipulate all the new coins into the 'trusted few' yet again by any means necessary. They dont care about XDE, Vegas just happens to be a bagholder and is stealing XDE's name in an attempt to hide the premine on the new coin. A premine that his team of trusted experts have concocted to give them a completely undeserved advantage. Its a shitful act that is plain to see.

The saddest thing about TEAM FLY is that they will ruin some pretty good reputations in various other trusted communities with their absolute greed and lies along the way.

Well known names from coins like Diamond are in TEAM FLY and will be exposed as supporters of this kind of behaviour. Their silence while all this goes down means they are absolutely complicit with the whole process.
These guys are all too happy to say nothing during the hostile takeover, allowing their alliance with TEAM FLY to turn their names into mud.. and it will, news spreads pretty fast around here.

I saw that, the Diamond guys tried pumping in various threads. I can't remember the name of the user that used to talk about it in other threads, but someone negged him for it.

[Argon18]

Ya Know, Dis just hit me.

From da FLY OP
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1316737.0

First here is a link to the SuperFLY wallet address: http://fly.dnsalias.com/address/FUvpVUAnEf9u4JPmVWymhV5o1BEvMQBcyP

The idea is aimed at helping "the little guy" that supports fly, and helping those that have had a major financial loss.
The fees for FLY transactions are VERY high. FLY coin is meant to be held and not traded or dumped.
The higher TX fees will make the SuperFLY wallet massive in a short time.
Anyone with a balance that is BELOW 5000 FLY and posts once a week about FLY to ANY social media, and has a done a name claim, and has validated their identity as an active member on bitcointalk.org or active in slack is eligible to get staking rewards from the SuperFLY wallet.
To remain eligible , you must NOT create any outbound transactions, and you must make a post once a week to any social media that is crypto related about fly and link back to FLY thread as proof
The staking rewards will be evenly sent to the different wallets automatically.
The rewards are NOT based on your balance. Its based on how many people qualify.

VegasGuy's Fly Forums is a Give-A-Way Forum , dose are supposed ta be banned.


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=780979.0

Most giveaway threads are no longer allowed in the Alternate cryptocurrencies sections. From now on, posting or replying to such threads could result in being banned. Existing threads will be locked.

Specifically, you are not allowed to give people any incentive to post insubstantial posts in your threads. You can't offer to pay people who post their addresses, usernames, etc. You can do giveaways off-site and link to the giveaway page in a thread, but you can't give people any bonus for replying to your thread.

Just Sayin,
AG18

[siameze]

This is the part where I would just nope out, sorry:

To remain eligible , you must NOT create any outbound transactions

Why doesn't FLY encourage more liquidity?  But seriously, would it break if I sat down and created a few tx's for cold storage purposes, but waited to broadcast them? Does that make one ineligible for rewards?

[billotronic]

since the lovely mod keeps deleting everything i have ever posted in the orginal flycoin thread, I thought I would share this gem on what put vegas on my radar in the first place.

Full disclosure, presstab is a crypto friend of mine. This is because he is an honest and smart person, very much the opposite of the swill you are about to read.

http://oi66.tinypic.com/vex092.jpg

http://oi65.tinypic.com/29l02m9.jpg

[mObLOBScHAr]

as XDEII is really failing and vegas tries to bury my serious notes about the project I am double posting here this too:

Its about the XDEII swap, which looks like a total fail or scam: Once again: STAY AWAY FROM XDEII.

According to XDEII Wallet sourcecode, the Platinum wallets are:
1) xPXuZNkLM3Q4QfE8nE9f2qy1NC84HvhbpC   (vegasguy address #001)
2) xQvNsgihpvPwYwi8Gqij4X4sR9j5QwC3Y8   (team wallet address #002)
3) xLCXwwH81EiYc1o2Hwm7pRgvpHfvzx6Duj   (team wallet address #003)
4) x9J86i6hPhscv1HWU3UNf1S6o5at48aBfC   (team wallet address #004)
5) xGVXBBxSjrubr7QSBwuXKbmyG89yGdFjut   (team wallet address #005)
6) xMErPU5nDWhdAtGwBZsaC5xP4XzsJpsCNJ   (community wallet address #006)
7) xNApUfouAU4CKqM721umxSNJ2vxVHNLN9X   (unused, probably for sale #007)

No let's have a look at the pic of the swap from vegas guy: (click to see original image)


There were 7 transactions mentioned by vegasguy:

Transaction #1:
Old XDE ADDRESS: XZuV3JeVbR4ZCVXYZYr8DmRLpQRSDDqw83
NEW XDEII ADDRESS: xQvNsgihpvPwYwi8Gqij4X4sR9j5QwC3Y8
swapped 4.765 XDE to 33.3 XDEII. As you can see, the swapped XDEII-Amount went to team-wallet-adress #002
--> THIS IS A PLATINUM address with 300% stake.

Transaction #5:
OLD: XS1pNiXXYnLCr4Mt7iyp4PnJzF7EEpCeY4
NEW: xPXuZNkLM3Q4QfE8nE9f2qy1NC84HvhbpC
obviously the address of vegasguy, as he mentioned it multiple times in the last few weeks.
swapped 125 XDEII plus 53 XDEII as teammember. THIS IS A PLATINUM address with 300% stake.

T#2 went from XKU5xT3u43e78x6oTVqy8KecmZVKUJwtrS to XDEII xCCgTMnHDURpYuzzNYK3RZECJ2Hv1ytS4A (STANDARD WALLET): 05.49 XDEII
T#3 went from Xad9SsNcjFD83qWbeG1YsLUQymTY8rvMeX to XDEII xTK3uoKsCko5BKi9C6vG5UkFAkY2TQ5JmE (STANDARD WALLET): 29.61 XDEII
T#4 went from XNSuECRUiS86bRQcMZwcWqvfLHesUKYbpb to XDEII xApweneyFU9EVujgt6T9yTboqGiMtME7i3 (STANDARD WALLET): 50.19 XDEII
T#6 went from XPTVjEfPqo4FZ6sDAHrw7yugC4ThqphSJk to XDEII xMdCCC5CDHPmfLGjzD6vsvCU1zXN1RguLD (STANDARD WALLET): 02.75 XDEII

TOTAL "swapped coins": 35.26 XDE
Swapped coins from team members: 22.66 XDE

Now.. there is already a GOLD-wallet in use: xW8n21Fk5EdUQvganihZAWbrzESew1SkS7
It holds 10 XDEII. why is this not mentioned in the swap - where did the XDE come from to this account? (further mentioned as "UG1")
I will further assume, that those coins are holded by the community. But there is no proof for this!

There are 3 more addresses with totally unclear origins: Total amount in there: 9.4 XDEII.
No correspondig XDE-transaction found to those addresses. (further mentioned as "UN3")
(xN8u2PPCeEvS3DkQWtTMAu1PqXaYmCgWKC, xFKrAEPn7QnUJT7sMAFPWpS64SEWaexPCW, xGm7dyEnB4cNGWSYXgBFEjWicFASRV6YQN)
Because of that, it is not really possible to say if those are in possession of the team or the community.
I will further assume, that those coins are holded by the community. But there is no proof for this!

Now, let's sum it up:
Total XDEII:    1004.49
-------------------------------
VEGASGUY:       178.96
TeamMember-2:   086.59
TeamMember-3:    053.00
TeamMember-4:    053.00
TeamMember-5:    053.00
Community:      458.46
--------------------------------
TOTAL in TEAM:   883.01   (87.91%)

Why did I count the community wallet as Team-Coins? Because the team holds the private key of this address and can therefor control those coins.

Distributed among Community:
T#2: 05.49
T#3: 31.61
T#4: 60.19
T#6: 04.77
UG1: 10.00
UN3: 09.42
-------------------------------
TOTAL IN CIRCULATION: 121.48 (12.09%)

As already mentioned 1000 times before: Because every coin on the Side of the "TEAM" is staking with 300%, this gap between TEAM and COMMUNITY will get bigger.
Only 1 person of the community owns a GOLD-wallet with 250% stake-rate. Everyone else has to stake with 200%. This will get out of hand very soon.

So, yeah. All in all, looks like this was very successfull swap  . Good coin distribution! But as we know from team vegas in the past:
This won't stop him from telling lies about how awesome his Coin and his work is. 
(btw: He still deletes all my post from the XDEII-Thread. Pure censorship.)

---

But all-in-all: THIS IS A GOOD DAY FOR XDE. The one and only true Double Eagle coin.
1 XDE before the swap was 0.95% of the total coin amount.
As we can now consider those burned 35.28 coins as gone forever, there are now only 70.16 XDE coins remaining in circulation.
This means, 1 XDE has now a weight of 1,43% of the total amount. That is awesome and will make XDE rarer than ever.