Stop Neg-Tagging For Ponzi In a PAID Signature.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

People here don't care whether one of their community members get scammed through the ponzi ad they are having in their signature spot. They just care about the earnings.

And those who don't join aren't any better. When you ask them what the reason is for not joining such a signature campaign. Answer. : I don't want to get negative trust. This once again shows no interest in the people that might potentially get scammed. They only care about themselfs.

Then again, as long as the forum allows these ponzi scams to exist, there is not much you can do.

This is a forum based on money, after all, so what do you expect?

I don't care either way if these Ponzi sig-promoters get negative trust or not.  People should be able to decide very quickly if something like that is a scam and I'd say most of them are very obvious just based on promised returns.  I'm not necessarily for the tagging of this sort of thing but I won't shed a tear either.

Having said this, if Yobit ever starts pulling a Gox I will most certainly ditch the campaign.

[kotwica666]

Everything what you wrote is very nice but now check this thread and look what is going on:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1322129.0

People with negative trust are joining this campaign and they don't care.

What then? Only deleting thread by Admins can help. Why they don't do that? Because there is no proof of scam i guess..

I dint notice that campaign but thanks for letting me know. It's sad to see that so many members just don't care about scammers and just care about few bitcoins.

There is obvious proof that the site is a scam and if admins can't take a strict against against these ponzis, then it's best the members do get a negative trust only as they deserve it for knowingly helping scammers. Although, I don's see this working because Jr. Members don't care for their reputation and they must be having alt accounts which should be detected and negated as well.

I'm pretty sure that only negative trust rating will not stop ponzi storm.. But.. We can't do nothing more.

It looks like sh*t is in the fan:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1329156.0

[mexxer-2]

It looks like sh*t is in the fan:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1329156.0

They are getting tagged too, Ecua and sho have been informed of the thread

[kotwica666]

It looks like sh*t is in the fan:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1329156.0

They are getting tagged too, Ecua and sho have been informed of the thread

Do you still belive that warning users with negative trust that they will get negative trust will work?

[mexxer-2]

Do you still belive that warning users with negative trust that they will get negative trust will work?

Yep

But.. We can't do nothing more.

Accepting it, is the first step to avoid making unnecessary drama in bitcointalk

[kotwica666]

Do you still belive that warning users with negative trust that they will get negative trust will work?

Yep

But.. We can't do nothing more.

Accepting it, is the first step to avoid making unnecessary drama in bitcointalk

For scammers is easy to make 10 or more accounts and spam around. Giving them negative trust changing nothing. But, what I know..

[Lutpin]

Do you still belive that warning users with negative trust that they will get negative trust will work?

Yep

But.. We can't do nothing more.

Accepting it, is the first step to avoid making unnecessary drama in bitcointalk

For scammers is easy to make 10 or more accounts and spam around. Giving them negative trust changing nothing. But, what I know..

I think it's working. You're right, they can create 10 new accounts and farm them to junior in almost no time.
And we will give those farmed junior accounts neg trust, not only for the reason that they have to be tagged accordingly, but also to keep higher value accounts from joining those campaigns.
We see very few Full/Senior Members, and absolutely none higher, to join those ponzi campaigns. That's one thing those neg-tags have achieved.
Those campaigns only get advertised with member signatures or lower, which are far less flashy than the signatures in higher groups.

[kotwica666]

Do you still belive that warning users with negative trust that they will get negative trust will work?

Yep

But.. We can't do nothing more.

Accepting it, is the first step to avoid making unnecessary drama in bitcointalk

For scammers is easy to make 10 or more accounts and spam around. Giving them negative trust changing nothing. But, what I know..

I think it's working. You're right, they can create 10 new accounts and farm them to junior in almost no time.
And we will give those farmed junior accounts neg trust, not only for the reason that they have to be tagged accordingly, but also to keep higher value accounts from joining those campaigns.
We see very few Full/Senior Members, and absolutely none higher, to join those ponzi campaigns. That's one thing those neg-tags have achieved.
Those campaigns only get advertised with member signatures or lower, which are far less flashy than the signatures in higher groups.

It is correct, but I'm afraid that this is working only by now. With time there will be farm of Full, Senior accounts with negative trust and will rise red trust sig campaign plague.. Hopefully not.

[Lutpin]

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It is correct, but I'm afraid that this is working only by now. With time there will be farm of Full, Senior accounts with negative trust and will rise red trust sig campaign plague.. Hopefully not.

No worries
The ponzies we neg-tag today won't live long enough to see any of their advertisers turn Full Member or higher.

[DiscoverCebu]

It is correct, but I'm afraid that this is working only by now. With time there will be farm of Full, Senior accounts with negative trust and will rise red trust sig campaign plague.. Hopefully not.

The only people joining the campaign are mostly throwaway accounts, the Jr. member accounts that sell for 0.003 each. They'll most likely just take the advance payment never to return

[justspare]

Well they deserve to get tagged if they own a ponzi website. They are clearly Scammers who won't pay out.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

-snip-
It is correct, but I'm afraid that this is working only by now. With time there will be farm of Full, Senior accounts with negative trust and will rise red trust sig campaign plague.. Hopefully not.

No worries
The ponzies we neg-tag today won't live long enough to see any of their advertisers turn Full Member or higher.

Yeah it actually surprises me that any ponzi would advertise via a sig campaign.   They're such scammy, fly-by-night organizations that advertising seems like total overkill.

[kotwica666]

-snip-
It is correct, but I'm afraid that this is working only by now. With time there will be farm of Full, Senior accounts with negative trust and will rise red trust sig campaign plague.. Hopefully not.

No worries
The ponzies we neg-tag today won't live long enough to see any of their advertisers turn Full Member or higher.

Yeah it actually surprises me that any ponzi would advertise via a sig campaign.   They're such scammy, fly-by-night organizations that advertising seems like total overkill.

Don't forget, that usually scammers don't stop on one ponzi project. They open new scam every week/month (same persons). They have to change script and website, but they can use same bitcointalk accounts everytime.. Just saying.

[kotwica666]

https://ore-mine.org/index.html

Waiting for comment from persons that let this camaign exist without negativ trust.

Edit:

Mostly from "shorena". Don't expect, but will be nice. Thanks.