[Discussion] Samdo & Zecexe possibly alts?

[Robertt]

First of all, please read this thread to get an overview of what's happening.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1327318.0;topicseen
Here's what makes me think that they are alts

Actually, upon further inspection I noticed something.

"Loan amount request: 0.025BTC
Reason: Private
Collateral: No Collateral
Term Length: within 1 week
Interest: 0.005BTC
Bitcoin Address: 18jxpygrDSf99F3X15sBzW7BC24Jy9oeFu
Amount to be Repaid: 0.03BTC"

If you look at the txid https://blockchain.info/tx/8db64382a7072037a201bc0e4af7737f0808dd340935431720ef3da2b9d16fb6 you see that two addresses received BTC. Both https://blockchain.info/address/18jxpygrDSf99F3X15sBzW7BC24Jy9oeFu & https://blockchain.info/address/1M3q1pWiQ8zz3JPF65B1WEaJo1EiX33LJQ
(1M3q1pWiQ8zz3JPF65B1WEaJo1EiX33LJQ & 18jxpygrDSf99F3X15sBzW7BC24Jy9oeFu)
The 1M3 belongs to the user "Samdo" as found here; https://bitcointa.lk/threads/need-loan-0-007-with-collateral.517931/ in his loan request using a request almost identical to this one if you look at the format above. It's in the same order, and same reason; Private. 18jx belonged to zecexe in that deposit.
Basically, two addresses from that txid were sent BTC. One was $2.3, other one was around $0.1.
While searching the address you find one address belongs to the user Samdo and the other address to zecexe. They both have loan requests, and the format is almost identical if he didn't leave the "Bitcoin Address" part in this thread.

My conclusion/guess; Samdo & Zecexe are alts.

Basically the user Zecexe was asking for a loan in that format, and the user Samdo asked for a loan with pretty much the exact same format. The addresses match, coincidence or alts. Hm

[1714798117]

1714798117

[1714798117]

1714798117

[1714798117]

1714798117

[mexxer-2]

That and it seems 1M3(Samdo's address) is sending payments regularly to 18jx
Edit: I guess thats what Shield was trying to say, quite incomprehensible English though
Edit 2: Thanks for creating the thread

[Shield]

His more alts
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1326059.0

see this linked tx
https://blockchain.info/tx/8db64382a7072037a201bc0e4af7737f0808dd340935431720ef3da2b9d16fb6


Edit: looks like a bought account is trust farming here,I am after him and will expose him very soon.

[Robertt]

That and it seems 1M3(Samdo's address) is sending payments regularly to 18jx
Edit: I guess thats what Shield was trying to say, quite incomprehensible English though
Edit 2: Thanks for creating the thread

I wasn't very sure about my accusation, but the fact that Samdo's address is sending payments to zecexe makes this even more suspicious. Thanks for adding that. Looks like Shield was on to something for once lol

[jacee]

I can confirm that samdo is zexeces' alt.
He gave me the account as a collateral when he asked for this loan. It was just a jr. member back then.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1217267.msg12761904#msg12761904

I am not sure tho if they are still both on the same user since it's been 3 months and maybe the guy sold the account.

[Naoko]

sorry but i think im lost here, did they scam anyone using one of his alts? i checked the thread linking his alt accounts but i dont find any valid scam accusation about him, its just for his alts

[jacee]

sorry but i think im lost here, did they scam anyone using one of his alts? i checked the thread linking his alt accounts but i dont find any valid scam accusation about him, its just for his alts

Samdo is running doublebot signature campaign which is a ponzi, also zecexe and some of his alts has been asking for a loan while the other account still has an acctive one, don't you think that is shady? The account holder seem to be trust farming which is not encouraged here. I saw that your account is also linked with his. Well I hope this one gets resolves. Even he has not scammed anyone, such behavior shall not be permmited.

[diegz]

Until now I don't see even one of his Alts explain here or save himself from accusations. All of this accusations will pile up and might affect  his Alts specially if its been sold.

[Samdo]

I can give you my account to check it, I have bought it guys, so dont know it a scammer sold me or honest person sold me.

[ShakinHandz]

well , i see Zecexe  Posting in meta , about his ban , if Samdo is his alt then he also could had been banned by admin.
If Samdo is not banned means he is not alt of Zecexe  , Or he might be using VPN.

[jacee]

well , i see Zecexe  Posting in meta , about his ban , if Samdo is his alt then he also could had been banned by admin.
If Samdo is not banned means he is not alt of Zecexe  , Or he might be using VPN.

zexece alts are still roaming around the forum and probably yes, the vpn had work to change his IP to avoid ban.

Regarding samdo I have seen this in his untrusted feedback that samdo (zexece) got a loan and defaulted in it woth his account (samdo) as the collateral so i belonged to a new member. It was then sold just like what the feedback says so samdo is being held by adifferent person now.  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1254590.0

Zexece never clears this issue maybe because not to expose more of his alts. I personally hate this kind of action so regardless of him being one from my country, I disagree with his action.

[Timelord2067]

The first three deposits to Wallet Address 1M3q1pWiQ8zz3JPF65B1WEaJo1EiX33LJQ are from

Code:

18A1YyEdUSGVazTqw6yHxM5t2HpaQUVx78
19t9iwCKxHaC6zqvDNvxap6FSXmipXAcvD
1G7cFBsPjj2VCdVg3Pij6KUXpY3GWFQmw2

and turn up nothing (so far)

The second most recent transaction on 1M3q1pWiQ8zz3JPF65B1WEaJo1EiX33LJQ is from 1PcmmEivy7jwgr6kALmbhB2bTMaaVUg4cC which is Hariom and or Alaki

While the last transaction sends from 1M3q1pWiQ8zz3JPF65B1WEaJo1EiX33LJQ to 35xKpcMSvY7KwpTeM6ckqTSvMSWuGgroH5 which is used by Ayoko, (six times) iWokeUpLate https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=514692 (once)

http://archive.is/n1LZh

35xKpcMSvY7KwpTeM6ckqTSvMSWuGgroH5

http://archive.is/YPErU

Retweet: https://twitter.com/coinut_options/status/643875906595917824
Twitter: https://twitter.com/joannetan_2015
BTC ADD: 35xKpcMSvY7KwpTeM6ckqTSvMSWuGgroH5

1M3q1pWiQ8zz3JPF65B1WEaJo1EiX33LJQ sends to 18jxpygrDSf99F3X15sBzW7BC24Jy9oeFu four out of five sends from that wallet.

18jxpygrDSf99F3X15sBzW7BC24Jy9oeFu sends to 1EUfrE7LFLY1Fr9JRVxfSVXsAhtfWr9UuV ten times out of 50 transactions just on the first page

1EUfrE7LFLY1Fr9JRVxfSVXsAhtfWr9UuV is used by Gildarts and the following:

I have posted what I have (so far) here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1206112.msg14705339#msg14705339 -

Accounts connected:    Gildarts -7: -3 / +1, Sabbirahmadshm, Finx     -2: -1 / +0, Ayoko  -32: -5 / +0, bugmenot, BruceLee007, b4basit -4: -2 / +0,  Redwan  -2: -1 / +0, hardtime, samiya  -2: -1 / +0,

confirmation120 and a lot more seem to be connected...

(Which means iWokeUpLate / Ayoko / Gildarts are Alts...)

It's early days yet, and I'm still sifting through this thread, but it's a very small circle of scammers.

[Timelord2067]

1M3q1pWiQ8zz3JPF65B1WEaJo1EiX33LJQ

My bitcoin address: 1M3q1pWiQ8zz3JPF65B1WEaJo1EiX33LJQ

Kindly quote it for me for future purposes

Quoted! I'd suggest checking you can sign with it - if you can't sign with it (for example, Xapo addresses can't be used for signing) it's better to find that out now rather than when you need to prove you own your account.

Samdo asks for a loan and is provided it by Hariom using the Wallet Address 1M3q1pWiQ8zz3JPF65B1WEaJo1EiX33LJQ to receive the funds for the loan and the Wallet Address 1PcmmEivy7jwgr6kALmbhB2bTMaaVUg4cC to both fund and repay the loan (this is the transaction I mention in the previous post)

I need a loan for 0.006BTC https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1254590.0 (Locked thread started by Samdo https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=550281 )

Samdo does not reply the loan and Hariom takes control of the account.  However, Samdo then announces that he has taken control of the account (1st Dec 2015) and when challenged concerning whether Samdo has repaid the loan to Hariom, neither responds. (21st Feb 2016)

The only user to mention the Wallet Address 1M3q1pWiQ8zz3JPF65B1WEaJo1EiX33LJQ directly is Samdo.

Wallet Address 1M3q1pWiQ8zz3JPF65B1WEaJo1EiX33LJQ is part of Wallet [010b95dfdb] https://www.walletexplorer.com/wallet/010b95dfdbd4169b/addresses

with connected wallet addresses

Code:

19GnJe2U9ynHCS7QzWbSoRxDxDhW4n1yV7	0.         	11	391624
1LpZQnd2CqKPPBAjmSfJCdhXz12n2jHkrA	0.         	6	390926
18NLSwdWrYpSsFpUbHe9eTbZs2Qjpd375Z	0.         	6	386815
1M3q1pWiQ8zz3JPF65B1WEaJo1EiX33LJQ	0.         	4	384259
1Q9krviJY4QaXAzdG4HxJjS1kNnzXoWovJ	0.         	3	393510
1G2Q8SfTZkTfGdk5NcMjF76rUBdAsKbG6A	0.         	2	393510
18Xy7cxrEdcAGUA56FtnshgtjrfxiJZr3c	0.         	2	385402
1H5nN2KdcZBZcHkoNnu1NeeLLQDMqY3ZmL	0.         	2	383073
14h21G8Hc2dpxQ8QB3BD8ndrS6Kh5scCpk	0.         	2	382012
1BGe21q7BkbFVTJ7yoZVC2oeCswzAdeQgr	0.         	1	389622
18MyKwSahkzWZgjXjK6qiz16BQ8yk4N9EM	0.         	1	382879
1CtKWqiiubwyJfoYGN4g12LcjTBrtoZuBE	0.         	1	382879
1GH2AD1mdZdStt41tLehDpwpVVmthn71sY	0.         	1	382879
1DiB23k1XKWaorE43PY2Rg9UrusLw5Snvn	0.         	1	382012

[Timelord2067]

19GnJe2U9ynHCS7QzWbSoRxDxDhW4n1yV7 part of Wallet [010b95dfdb]

iCeSaiah is the only one who appears to directly use the Wallet Address 19GnJe2U9ynHCS7QzWbSoRxDxDhW4n1yV7

My Bitcoin Address: 19GnJe2U9ynHCS7QzWbSoRxDxDhW4n1yV7

Kindly quote it for me for future references! 

quoted for future reference

https://archive.is/QXoa5

I am entering official btc.surf giveaway
and i am guessing that when its 16:00 local time, the data on homepage will show -

❤ PAID OUT TO MEMBERS COUNTER WILL SHOW ❤14.531175 BTC [/i]
❤ THERE WILL BE 667 DEPOSITS ❤

my wallet for prize payout: 19GnJe2U9ynHCS7QzWbSoRxDxDhW4n1yV7

1LpZQnd2CqKPPBAjmSfJCdhXz12n2jHkrA part of Wallet [010b95dfdb]

Avile https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=553956 uses Wallet Address 1LpZQnd2CqKPPBAjmSfJCdhXz12n2jHkrA here (locked thread https://archive.is/UCCrC )

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1236993.msg12878238#msg12878238

Done downloading your app and copied your OP then posted to my wall.

My BTC ADD: 1LpZQnd2CqKPPBAjmSfJCdhXz12n2jHkrA

As does LuckyYOU https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=538491

My bitcoin Address: 1LpZQnd2CqKPPBAjmSfJCdhXz12n2jHkrA

Quote it for me

here you go, quoted for future use

Posted as LuckyYOU https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=538491

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1197037.msg12633033#msg12633033 https://archive.is/4buME

Code:

-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Today is Oct,8,2015 and I would like to confirm the sale of bitcointalk.org account ( LuckyYOU ) to another fellow member since September 17, 2015
-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
1Gm5K2H2fjD2oiTn4rWC5GwQMn2xMUBc5g
H1c0uguGWb83RS1pttY1Dk3n2ZjIZ/0larjlDB44Dzz3YZJFLzZro2Crg0GLH3SwFdoyt23fvktha0ruY/O4Oho=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----

Code:

-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
This is SFR10 from bitcointalk.org and today is 3/24/2016. I would be acting as escrow provider for "Eclipse Logo Contest". 0.1 BTC has been sent to my address: https://blockchain.info/tx/c2ed38f8540269ed091fa11357de55e22ced0b1d42ae5d592886c3a4645cc6dc
-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
1Gm5K2H2fjD2oiTn4rWC5GwQMn2xMUBc5g
IGmA/Bo3sJXSwvF6Ztl99KqebhFN3G5OEtUMINxS2jeBP+0Yu2NDkW92KddPOvQ88BZ4U1L5UcYZRTpU+/D/8Eg=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----

Code:

-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
This is SFR10 from bitcointalk.org and today is 9/28/2015
-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
1Gm5K2H2fjD2oiTn4rWC5GwQMn2xMUBc5g
H+BI/EoxFl/FxIMjhRnZZctxFlN31NOUkogyOjf9hD43BA4L8vrpiaCCMifL7Qk8nUreAUl6Mzq5KpxCav12GYc=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----

SFR10 email:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1098291.msg11704429#msg11704429 (Locked thread https://archive.is/k2ket )

Hi , I am interested on your captcha program , here is my Bitcoin address :  1Gm5K2H2fjD2oiTn4rWC5GwQMn2xMUBc5g and my email is : sfrsfr13@gmail.com

[Timelord2067]

Accounts Connected: Samdo, iCeSaiah, Avile, LuckyYOU, SFR10 via Wallet [010b95dfdb] (So far - Not to Gildarts etc...)

[Alaki]

Accounts Connected: Samdo, iCeSaiah, Avile, LuckyYOU, SFR10 via Wallet [010b95dfdb] (So far - Not to Gildarts etc...)

Basically, you know that iCeSaiah=Ayoko -> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=544634 & Ayoko=Gildarts. Therefore iCeSaiah=Ayoko=Gildarts=SFR10 & other alternatives. Just made that(it) simple(easy) for you!. However, you're doing a great job (more than a police/cop). Keep it up.

[Timelord2067]

Accounts Connected: Samdo, iCeSaiah, Avile, LuckyYOU, SFR10 via Wallet [010b95dfdb] (So far - Not to Gildarts etc...)

Basically, you know that iCeSaiah=Ayoko -> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=544634 & Ayoko=Gildarts. Therefore iCeSaiah=Ayoko=Gildarts=SFR10 & other alternatives. Just made that(it) simple(easy) for you!. However, you're doing a great job (more than a police/cop). Keep it up.

I've said a few times that Shield's style I find hard to read (with everything as an external link - no actual proof presented), so I haven't independently made the connection to Gildart.  There are slim suggestions of TrueHari/Hariom involvement, so will look at those too.

Thanks for your comments too.

[Timelord2067]

I missed this post by ajrah in the locked thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1197037.msg12632420#msg12632420

Looks like that user is not the original owner of that account
User deleted his post made July 27, 2015 where an address was posted
https://archive.is/VMHJY

From the archive.is/VMHJY posted by LuckyYOU

Hello , I would like to join your campaign :

Name:  LuckyYOU
Posts:  1 +1 (including this one)
Activity: 0
Position:  Newbie
Bitcoin address:  1Gm5K2H2fjD2oiTn4rWC5GwQMn2xMUBc5g

Code:

-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
This is SFR10 from bitcointalk.org and today is 9/28/2015
-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
1Gm5K2H2fjD2oiTn4rWC5GwQMn2xMUBc5g
H+BI/EoxFl/FxIMjhRnZZctxFlN31NOUkogyOjf9hD43BA4L8vrpiaCCMifL7Qk8nUreAUl6Mzq5KpxCav12GYc=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----

Code:

-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Today is Oct,8,2015 and I would like to confirm the sale of bitcointalk.org account ( LuckyYOU ) to another fellow member since September 17, 2015
-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
1Gm5K2H2fjD2oiTn4rWC5GwQMn2xMUBc5g
H1c0uguGWb83RS1pttY1Dk3n2ZjIZ/0larjlDB44Dzz3YZJFLzZro2Crg0GLH3SwFdoyt23fvktha0ruY/O4Oho=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----

Code:

-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
This is SFR10 from bitcointalk.org and today is 3/24/2016. I would be acting as escrow provider for "Eclipse Logo Contest". 0.1 BTC has been sent to my address: https://blockchain.info/tx/c2ed38f8540269ed091fa11357de55e22ced0b1d42ae5d592886c3a4645cc6dc
-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
1Gm5K2H2fjD2oiTn4rWC5GwQMn2xMUBc5g
IGmA/Bo3sJXSwvF6Ztl99KqebhFN3G5OEtUMINxS2jeBP+0Yu2NDkW92KddPOvQ88BZ4U1L5UcYZRTpU+/D/8Eg=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----

So, we know SFR10 controlled user LuckyYOU until the 17th of September 2015, something he's still pushing to this day: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1206112.msg14714734#msg14714734

In a PM today, SFR10 says he sold LuckyYOU to zexece and was paid here https://blockchain.info/tx/9a2ae268ae65af089705368a63691831093a9a53f6dde54bb5aa1de352028969 by Wallet Address 18jxpygrDSf99F3X15sBzW7BC24Jy9oeFu which is indeed zexece 's Wallet Address.

Two weeks after SFR10 sells LuckyYOU, LuckyYOU then stakes a Wallet Address 1LpZQnd2CqKPPBAjmSfJCdhXz12n2jHkrA and the same day uses that wallet to ask for a loan.  (Also providing a signed message from the "previous owner" dated the 8th of Oct 2015 as the first proof of sale was deleted).

1LpZQnd2CqKPPBAjmSfJCdhXz12n2jHkrA part of Wallet [010b95dfdb] is used post sale (examples shown in my previous posts in this thread) by confirmed Alt's of SFR10 namely Samdo, iCeSaiah, Avile

SFR10 maintains LuckyYOU was sold, but it is inferred the other Alt's ( namely Samdo, iCeSaiah, Avile ) are still in his control https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1206112.msg14714734#msg14714734  However, SFR10 just now in PM states Samdo, iCeSaiah, Avile are not Alts.  Why didn't he deny this three months ago when proof was offered, or in public earlier today when he stated he'd "sold" LuckyYOU?

For SFR10 to sell LuckyYOU to zexece and then SFR10's Alt's using the same wallet that a now zexece controlled Alt (LuckyYOU) is using can be construed that zexece is an Alt of SFR10.

Either that OR zexece always did control Samdo, iCeSaiah, Avile and really did buy LuckyYOU from SFR10.

[SFR10]

It's really very simple, and I've provided you with all the information's but you still seem confused of the situation, this is my last reply by PM to you:

I only said regarding the account that used to be mine (like everyone will do if accused wrongly of being the owner of the account they sold), and I never thought about those other accounts since I'm not involved. If you think I'm not saying the truth, you could ask from either Lutpin or mexxer-2 to explain the situation to you. My work on this forum, required trust and reputation and I would never do anything to put that in risk.

zexece always did control Samdo, iCeSaiah, Avile and really did buy LuckyYOU from SFR10. (this quote of you is the one I'm trying to explain for the past hour)


Update:
Regarding the following line in your comment above: However, SFR10 just now in PM states Samdo, iCeSaiah, Avile are not Alts.  Why didn't he deny this three months ago when proof was offered, or in public earlier today when he stated he'd "sold" LuckyYOU?

Three months ago, the involved accounts were Avile, LuckyYOU, SFR10, in which when I provided proof for account sale of LuckyYOU, it's already understood that I'm not connected to Avile in any manner, same applies now, I'm not connected to Samdo, iCeSaiah since their irrelevant to me and no need to completely talk about them when I provided proof of the account that has connection in between them to me (LuckyYOU), has been sold since Sep,17,2015.

[Timelord2067]

I think you might be missing the point here, I am eliminating you from being an Alt of either Gildart or zexece - with the exception of the LuckyYOU account, all evidence suggests you are *not* an Alt of either one.