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January 14, 2016, 11:53:33 PM
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Mike makes a lot of good points, but he is such a tantrum throwing drama queen.  XT dies, and suddenly he finds it appropriate to "sell his bitcoins" and declare bitcoin dead.

However, the big point I get out of this is that Mike Hearn / R3CEV / HyperLedger are probably going to take a run at cornering the Crypto Market soon.

And I think that Mike's pissy letter is simply an example of what the Bitcoin Community can expect to come.  I think Bitcoin Classic is getting ready to get hit on two fronts.  The whining idiots at Bloackstream look like tey are willing to try and make this a "Do or Die" fight.  Its obvious that with the support already out there for Classic, it is most likely they will "die" and Classic will Fork, and will be the last Bitcoin standing.

But I fear that Blockstream could throw enough FUD out there for a Fiat Coin to come along and Mass Media will take the opportunity to point to the confusion in Bitcoin to justify why we need to accept the "Grownup, Stable Cryptocurrency" that the Big Banks/Fiat will trot out.

Mark my words - there is getting ready to be a shitpile of activity in the next few months.
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January 15, 2016, 12:50:18 AM
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It's amazing... You have this guy who throws out good points and gives proof that what he's saying is true,  that it's not just some random temper tantrum, and you guys still are name calling him and not showing him respect.

This is the main thing that I took away from this, is that he is undoubtedly being publicly ridiculed to want the Bitcoin network to grow in network ability and usage.

Regardless if you don't agree with what I'm saying, you have to admit that it's amazing how unorganized and hostile the community has gotten over the years. The amount of censorship and dictatorship like moderation of not allowing voting to take place is stupid as hell...

Yeah we'll be seeing some major mood swings in price and usage happen, especially considering you have halving speculations on top of all the problems core is having. It's going to be a shit show.

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It's amazing... You have this guy who throws out good points and gives proof that what he's saying is true,  that it's not just some random temper tantrum, and you guys still are name calling him and not showing him respect.

respect Hearn  Huh you know its a dog act to backstab a community when you don't get your own way;

"But despite knowing that Bitcoin could fail all along, the now inescapable conclusion that it has failed still saddens me greatly. The fundamentals are broken and whatever happens to the price in the short term, the long term trend should probably be downwards. I will no longer be taking part in Bitcoin development and have sold all my coins."

in a normal world this would crash the price of bitcoin, but fortunately, the lack of that, shows how irrelevant Hearn really is  Kiss


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January 15, 2016, 01:36:50 AM
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Mike makes a lot of good points, but he is such a tantrum throwing drama queen.  XT dies, and suddenly he finds it appropriate to "sell his bitcoins" and declare bitcoin dead.

However, the big point I get out of this is that Mike Hearn / R3CEV / HyperLedger are probably going to take a run at cornering the Crypto Market soon.

XT was never really alive, and (while promoting several factual and logical errors) Mikey did not many any good points.  The closest he came was by unintentionally demonstrating the Peter Principle and Dunning-Kruger effect.  IE, he's a codemonkey who has no business dealing with anything beyond an IDE, yet fervently believes Honey Badger should give a shit about his ridiculous opinions.

I guarantee Mikey will be back.  His self-indulgent Goodbye Cruel World tantrum was merely a plea for attention (and tacit admission of impotence via XT's failure). 

If Mikey was sincere, he would have simply and silently rage quit and rage dumped without all the fanfare.  We may be on opposite sides of the fence, but I know a fellow Bitcoin drama addicted obsessive when I see one.

Exactly when and how Hearn@bankster.ch will return is a mystery, subject to the occult objectives of his military-industrial-financial complex puppet masters.


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Exactly when and how Hearn@bankster.ch will return is a mystery, subject to the occult objectives of his military-industrial-financial complex puppet masters.
No it isn't you idiot moron.  He hasn't gone anywhere.  He's at R3CEV working with Hyperledger, IBM, Cisco, several dozen global banks, the NSA etc. 

You lot are such morons.  Guess you failed to notice that within a hour of Mike releasing this it was picked up by the New York Times.  YOU bitcoin crippling schmuck idiots are so focused on Classic (which still hasn't gotten a blip in media, nor has anything else bitcoin related) that you fail to see the threat rising from a fiat coin.

You just had to have your way against almost total disagreement from the rest of the community.  Well, a fight is coming and the only good news is that you lot will get knocked out early.  Hopefully you don't do too much damage to the repuation of Bitcoin on the way out.  My guess, based on your recent behavior, is that you will happily kill bitcoin if you can't control it.
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It's amazing... You have this guy who throws out good points and gives proof that what he's saying is true,

He smears Bitcoin with lies, and major exaggerations. Provides no proof, not that it is needed for me because it contradicts my real life experience. He also smears another major developer with a misleading half truth (i.e. lie).

Its hard to be sympathetic to somebody who does not show that curtsey to others.


We should be bigger people. Mike, like Greg did make many contributions and should be thanked for them.

I think Mike needs to look critically at himself and learn from his mistakes. I think his ego is actually fragile and he was hurt that fellow developers and peers rejected many of his ideas. He took that personally as a rejection of himself and harboured resentment to his colleagues.

That resentment showed up in his actions, communications and failure to be a team player. He could not accept people disagreeing with him so circumvented development process by trying to rally public opinion to his cause to 'prove himself right' and save his ago. When that did not work he rejected bitcoin and in a case of sour grapes declares it as a failure, and will probably resent its success as it shows his own failure and hurts his ego.


His posts were often hyperbolic and indirectly or directly attacked the core development team. He was probably the biggest cause of the toxic atmosphere we have in Bitcoin now.

His followers started going even more extreme then him with ridiculous venom towards block-stream and core devs. Theymos moderation policies then polarised the community further and gave the big blockers a feeling of victimhood that made them yet more extreme.



Thats my take.
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January 15, 2016, 02:53:38 AM
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Exactly when and how Hearn@bankster.ch will return is a mystery, subject to the occult objectives of his military-industrial-financial complex puppet masters.
No it isn't you idiot moron.  He hasn't gone anywhere.  He's at R3CEV working with Hyperledger, IBM, Cisco, several dozen global banks, the NSA etc. 

You lot are such morons.  Guess you failed to notice that within a hour of Mike releasing this it was picked up by the New York Times.  YOU bitcoin crippling schmuck idiots are so focused on Classic (which still hasn't gotten a blip in media, nor has anything else bitcoin related) that you fail to see the threat rising from a fiat coin.

You just had to have your way against almost total disagreement from the rest of the community.  Well, a fight is coming and the only good news is that you lot will get knocked out early.  Hopefully you don't do too much damage to the repuation of Bitcoin on the way out.  My guess, based on your recent behavior, is that you will happily kill bitcoin if you can't control it.

Ah yes, there's the good old 'Sell Gavinblocks Using Fear' approach we know and love.  The problem is you don't understand antifragile systems require adversity (such as _Classic and fiat) to grow more resilient and thrive.

Fiat is not a threat to Bitcoin any more than a beehive can stop Honey Badger from consuming its sweet precious goo.

Bankster shitlords like Hearn are welcome to 'throw their weapons' and buzz around angrily, while Honey Badger just does whatever it wants to.


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January 15, 2016, 03:24:51 AM
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It's amazing... You have this guy who throws out good points and gives proof that what he's saying is true,  that it's not just some random temper tantrum, and you guys still are name calling him and not showing him respect.

This is the main thing that I took away from this, is that he is undoubtedly being publicly ridiculed to want the Bitcoin network to grow in network ability and usage.

Regardless if you don't agree with what I'm saying, you have to admit that it's amazing how unorganized and hostile the community has gotten over the years. The amount of censorship and dictatorship like moderation of not allowing voting to take place is stupid as hell...

Yeah we'll be seeing some major mood swings in price and usage happen, especially considering you have halving speculations on top of all the problems core is having. It's going to be a shit show.

You call  that censorship and dictatorship ? Sorry ,  i don't think so !  
It's because we CANT show respect to  TX rollback , IP blacklist & ridiculous size block preacher mike hearn .
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In the Crypto currency scene, it is a free for all. You propose something and your competitors have a stab at it and concentrate on your flaws. Mike and Gavin wanted to exploit users by introducing suspect spy code and his competitors just had to highlight and expose it. They dug the hole and now they want to complain about it.

The developers protected their community from these actions and that is how it should be. If something threatens the community, it must be exposed and made public. They even hyped up the need for bigger block sizes with scare tactics and we are still here, with no problems.

I fail to see the need to cry over the loss of a developer that operated like a bully. The Core guys might not be perfect, but the ship is still floating in the ocean. We will ride this out, like all the attacks {stress tests} we faced last year. 

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It's amazing... You have this guy who throws out good points and gives proof that what he's saying is true,  that it's not just some random temper tantrum, and you guys still are name calling him and not showing him respect.

This is the main thing that I took away from this, is that he is undoubtedly being publicly ridiculed to want the Bitcoin network to grow in network ability and usage.

Regardless if you don't agree with what I'm saying, you have to admit that it's amazing how unorganized and hostile the community has gotten over the years. The amount of censorship and dictatorship like moderation of not allowing voting to take place is stupid as hell...

Yeah we'll be seeing some major mood swings in price and usage happen, especially considering you have halving speculations on top of all the problems core is having. It's going to be a shit show.

Wow,.... man you're waiting your time here.

You see any good content in this forum for the past few months?

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It's amazing... You have this guy who throws out good points and gives proof that what he's saying is true,  that it's not just some random temper tantrum, and you guys still are name calling him and not showing him respect.

respect Hearn  Huh you know its a dog act to backstab a community when you don't get your own way;

"But despite knowing that Bitcoin could fail all along, the now inescapable conclusion that it has failed still saddens me greatly. The fundamentals are broken and whatever happens to the price in the short term, the long term trend should probably be downwards. I will no longer be taking part in Bitcoin development and have sold all my coins."

in a normal world this would crash the price of bitcoin, but fortunately, the lack of that, shows how irrelevant Hearn really is  Kiss




The man needs to get some self respect & walk away, he's humiliating himself every time he speaks publicly.

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It's amazing... You have this guy who throws out good points and gives proof that what he's saying is true,  that it's not just some random temper tantrum, and you guys still are name calling him and not showing him respect.

This is the main thing that I took away from this, is that he is undoubtedly being publicly ridiculed to want the Bitcoin network to grow in network ability and usage.

Regardless if you don't agree with what I'm saying, you have to admit that it's amazing how unorganized and hostile the community has gotten over the years. The amount of censorship and dictatorship like moderation of not allowing voting to take place is stupid as hell...

Yeah we'll be seeing some major mood swings in price and usage happen, especially considering you have halving speculations on top of all the problems core is having. It's going to be a shit show.

You call  that censorship and dictatorship ? Sorry ,  i don't think so !  
It's because we CANT show respect to  TX rollback , IP blacklist & ridiculous size block preacher mike hearn .
The longest chain always win , there is only rules  no fking respect  Grin

Remember this exact words, I BOLD it for you so you cant fcking miss it.

You Core shills are about as relevant as Kim Jong Un.

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XT dies, and suddenly he finds it appropriate to "sell his bitcoins" and declare bitcoin dead.

His actions on the way out cement in my mind that the Bitcoin community was right to criticize and ignore Bitcoin XT.  I think his new employer says a lot about his prior intentions as well.

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His comments have decimated the price.

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His comments have decimated the price.

As intended, he writes he expects the bitcoin price to drop haha, whats that so he can buy in again lower?  Also we see cryptsy say they lost 13k BTC n a hack it seems the powers that be want more cheap coin.  Wait 1 week and we have more good use to pump.
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It's amazing... You have this guy who throws out good points and gives proof that what he's saying is true,  that it's not just some random temper tantrum, and you guys still are name calling him and not showing him respect.
Your statement is a complete joke; has he gotten into your mind so deeply? Firstly this so called thing that you call "proof":
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the network is on the brink of technical collapse
Is beyond false and a huge manipulation attempt. There are two outcome right now: 1. Fee market; 2. SegWit gets implemented first, no fee market. Neither one of these will result in a "technical collapse". He claims that Core doesn't raise the limit solely because of "people problems". Amazing proof.  Roll Eyes

This is the main thing that I took away from this, is that he is undoubtedly being publicly ridiculed to want the Bitcoin network to grow in network ability and usage.
That is what you're supposed to think. He was trying to take over Bitcoin and possibly even damage it with ridiculously big blocks.

Regardless if you don't agree with what I'm saying, you have to admit that it's amazing how unorganized and hostile the community has gotten over the years. The amount of censorship and dictatorship like moderation of not allowing voting to take place is stupid as hell...
Why would someone agree to false information? There is no censorship nor dictatorship on BTCT. Theymos has not changed any policies AFAIK for months if not longer (which I couldn't really tell).
His actions on the way out cement in my mind that the Bitcoin community was right to criticize and ignore Bitcoin XT.  I think his new employer says a lot about his prior intentions as well.
The whole article is based on the XT story and the block size.


Tl;dr: Put Hearn on a Bitcoin list of shame.

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His comments have decimated the price.
Just another volatile day in Bitcoin, where news can drop or boost markets at the drop of a hat.

@ Lauda
Kind of interested and you seem on top of it but what is the utility of RBF seems like a pain to me like Hearn mentioned but maybe I am misinformed.
https://99bitcoins.com/conspiracy-against-instant-bitcoin-transactions-rbf-cpfp-and-scorched-earth/

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