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May 26, 2016, 11:14:46 AM
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For the price go down again to 400 some serious things need to be happening. I don't see this coming, since we got a positive market.
Perhaps after the halving?

The big whales can push down the price briefly down to $400. But it will not last long, the value is there.
Big whales can do anything they want with the price. But they want to profit from it, so why dump a lot of coins to lower the price if they can sell them slower and profit more?

If the whale open a short position and sell the bitcoin price to lower level, they can make profit from the short position.

Not only whales, but even smaller traders can make profits no matter in what direction the price is moving. It requires a good understanding of markets and enough experience.

For small investors, they can buy and sell coins easily because they have smaller positions, not like big investors.

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May 29, 2016, 04:02:09 PM
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For the price go down again to 400 some serious things need to be happening. I don't see this coming, since we got a positive market.
Perhaps after the halving?

The big whales can push down the price briefly down to $400. But it will not last long, the value is there.
Big whales can do anything they want with the price. But they want to profit from it, so why dump a lot of coins to lower the price if they can sell them slower and profit more?

If the whale open a short position and sell the bitcoin price to lower level, they can make profit from the short position.

Not only whales, but even smaller traders can make profits no matter in what direction the price is moving. It requires a good understanding of markets and enough experience.

For small investors, they can buy and sell coins easily because they have smaller positions, not like big investors.

That is true. But the big investors control the market, they can manipulate the price of bitcoin easily.

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May 30, 2016, 08:13:53 AM
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For the price go down again to 400 some serious things need to be happening. I don't see this coming, since we got a positive market.
Perhaps after the halving?

The big whales can push down the price briefly down to $400. But it will not last long, the value is there.
Big whales can do anything they want with the price. But they want to profit from it, so why dump a lot of coins to lower the price if they can sell them slower and profit more?

If the whale open a short position and sell the bitcoin price to lower level, they can make profit from the short position.

Not only whales, but even smaller traders can make profits no matter in what direction the price is moving. It requires a good understanding of markets and enough experience.

For small investors, they can buy and sell coins easily because they have smaller positions, not like big investors.

That is true. But the big investors control the market, they can manipulate the price of bitcoin easily.

So we need more people to be aware of the bitcoin and buy the bitcoin. Bitcoin will be owned by more people.
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May 30, 2016, 08:42:07 AM
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It's true that a slower price increase will last longer but the price will get dumped down when whales want it. Even a slower growth can't prevent that from happening.

When more people in the world join the bitcoin community, the effect of the whales will be smaller. It will be more healthy.

How so? When whales such as early adopters keep the majority of their coins the impact will be the same or maybe even worse. More people means more people hold a certain amount of coins which is better for the spread of coins but whales don't lose any power when they keep the majority of their coins.


but the amount of coins they have relative to the amount of coins in circulation will be less
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June 05, 2016, 02:23:08 PM
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For the price go down again to 400 some serious things need to be happening. I don't see this coming, since we got a positive market.
Perhaps after the halving?

The big whales can push down the price briefly down to $400. But it will not last long, the value is there.
Big whales can do anything they want with the price. But they want to profit from it, so why dump a lot of coins to lower the price if they can sell them slower and profit more?

If the whale open a short position and sell the bitcoin price to lower level, they can make profit from the short position.

Not only whales, but even smaller traders can make profits no matter in what direction the price is moving. It requires a good understanding of markets and enough experience.

For small investors, they can buy and sell coins easily because they have smaller positions, not like big investors.

That is true. But the big investors control the market, they can manipulate the price of bitcoin easily.

So we need more people to be aware of the bitcoin and buy the bitcoin. Bitcoin will be owned by more people.

The more people own the bitcoin, the higher the price the bitcoin will be. That is the case for the past 7 years.

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June 05, 2016, 02:50:10 PM
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For the price go down again to 400 some serious things need to be happening. I don't see this coming, since we got a positive market.
Perhaps after the halving?

The big whales can push down the price briefly down to $400. But it will not last long, the value is there.
Big whales can do anything they want with the price. But they want to profit from it, so why dump a lot of coins to lower the price if they can sell them slower and profit more?

If the whale open a short position and sell the bitcoin price to lower level, they can make profit from the short position.

Not only whales, but even smaller traders can make profits no matter in what direction the price is moving. It requires a good understanding of markets and enough experience.

For small investors, they can buy and sell coins easily because they have smaller positions, not like big investors.

That is true. But the big investors control the market, they can manipulate the price of bitcoin easily.

So we need more people to be aware of the bitcoin and buy the bitcoin. Bitcoin will be owned by more people.

The more people own the bitcoin, the higher the price the bitcoin will be. That is the case for the past 7 years.
Well we've seen so far, it turns bitcoin prices persist, even grow taller faster than we thought, maybe we can only hope that the price will be higher
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June 05, 2016, 02:55:32 PM
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For the price go down again to 400 some serious things need to be happening. I don't see this coming, since we got a positive market.
Perhaps after the halving?

The big whales can push down the price briefly down to $400. But it will not last long, the value is there.
Big whales can do anything they want with the price. But they want to profit from it, so why dump a lot of coins to lower the price if they can sell them slower and profit more?

If the whale open a short position and sell the bitcoin price to lower level, they can make profit from the short position.

Not only whales, but even smaller traders can make profits no matter in what direction the price is moving. It requires a good understanding of markets and enough experience.

For small investors, they can buy and sell coins easily because they have smaller positions, not like big investors.

That is true. But the big investors control the market, they can manipulate the price of bitcoin easily.

So we need more people to be aware of the bitcoin and buy the bitcoin. Bitcoin will be owned by more people.

The more people own the bitcoin, the higher the price the bitcoin will be. That is the case for the past 7 years.

if you're talking about when the wealth (bitcoins in this case) is spreaded between a lot people instead of having a few persons controlling insanely high amounts of coins, that the price will be higher... i don't think it will be that different. whale traders owning such a large amount where they can manipulate and even control the market are very welcome for traders. these whales can move markets up and down which allows us traders to benefit from it. beside that, we will never reach a point in life where everything is spreaded fair. it's wishful thinking.
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June 05, 2016, 03:57:19 PM
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For the price go down again to 400 some serious things need to be happening. I don't see this coming, since we got a positive market.
Perhaps after the halving?

The big whales can push down the price briefly down to $400. But it will not last long, the value is there.
Big whales can do anything they want with the price. But they want to profit from it, so why dump a lot of coins to lower the price if they can sell them slower and profit more?

If the whale open a short position and sell the bitcoin price to lower level, they can make profit from the short position.

Not only whales, but even smaller traders can make profits no matter in what direction the price is moving. It requires a good understanding of markets and enough experience.

For small investors, they can buy and sell coins easily because they have smaller positions, not like big investors.

That is true. But the big investors control the market, they can manipulate the price of bitcoin easily.

So we need more people to be aware of the bitcoin and buy the bitcoin. Bitcoin will be owned by more people.

The more people own the bitcoin, the higher the price the bitcoin will be. That is the case for the past 7 years.

if you're talking about when the wealth (bitcoins in this case) is spreaded between a lot people instead of having a few persons controlling insanely high amounts of coins, that the price will be higher... i don't think it will be that different. whale traders owning such a large amount where they can manipulate and even control the market are very welcome for traders. these whales can move markets up and down which allows us traders to benefit from it. beside that, we will never reach a point in life where everything is spreaded fair. it's wishful thinking.

it's not about fair distribution, it's about simple mathematics.

More people means more money.
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June 07, 2016, 08:04:56 AM
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For the price go down again to 400 some serious things need to be happening. I don't see this coming, since we got a positive market.
Perhaps after the halving?

The big whales can push down the price briefly down to $400. But it will not last long, the value is there.
Big whales can do anything they want with the price. But they want to profit from it, so why dump a lot of coins to lower the price if they can sell them slower and profit more?

If the whale open a short position and sell the bitcoin price to lower level, they can make profit from the short position.

Not only whales, but even smaller traders can make profits no matter in what direction the price is moving. It requires a good understanding of markets and enough experience.

For small investors, they can buy and sell coins easily because they have smaller positions, not like big investors.

That is true. But the big investors control the market, they can manipulate the price of bitcoin easily.

So we need more people to be aware of the bitcoin and buy the bitcoin. Bitcoin will be owned by more people.

The more people own the bitcoin, the higher the price the bitcoin will be. That is the case for the past 7 years.

if you're talking about when the wealth (bitcoins in this case) is spreaded between a lot people instead of having a few persons controlling insanely high amounts of coins, that the price will be higher... i don't think it will be that different. whale traders owning such a large amount where they can manipulate and even control the market are very welcome for traders. these whales can move markets up and down which allows us traders to benefit from it. beside that, we will never reach a point in life where everything is spreaded fair. it's wishful thinking.

it's not about fair distribution, it's about simple mathematics.

More people means more money.

More people, more money. That is right. That is the network effect. The value of Facebook increases with its users.

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June 08, 2016, 04:35:52 PM
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So far this summer, the price of the bitcoin is going very well. If we have more good news, the price will be even higher.
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i will still stay with bitcoins most probably because i dont like to transfer my money to btc and btc to money, also i believe that the price will rise soon
yes. save bitcoin today is one of the best choices. I agree .
I have sold and I will take advantage again when prices fall below $370, in fact I believe it could be down below $350

The price might or will fall below $570. But it is not possible for the price to drop below $370 again.

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i will still stay with bitcoins most probably because i dont like to transfer my money to btc and btc to money, also i believe that the price will rise soon
yes. save bitcoin today is one of the best choices. I agree .
I have sold and I will take advantage again when prices fall below $370, in fact I believe it could be down below $350

The price might or will fall below $570. But it is not possible for the price to drop below $370 again.

The price of bitcoin is around $580 at the moment. I think it will fluctuate around this level for some time.

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June 10, 2016, 08:53:45 AM
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For the price go down again to 400 some serious things need to be happening. I don't see this coming, since we got a positive market.
Perhaps after the halving?

The big whales can push down the price briefly down to $400. But it will not last long, the value is there.
Big whales can do anything they want with the price. But they want to profit from it, so why dump a lot of coins to lower the price if they can sell them slower and profit more?
You can already see now that the value of Bitcoin will rise for a long time now and that is because it was stable for a long time and the halving is also coming towards to us.
But nobody will ever know what is going to happen in the future and that is the problem of the currency.
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I think it is not time to discuss if the "400 will not hold", we should discuss "600 will not hold" at present.
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I think it is not time to discuss if the "400 will not hold", we should discuss "600 will not hold" at present.

That is right. The price is more than $600 now. It is around $640. If the price can hold here, it is very good omen.
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I think it is not time to discuss if the "400 will not hold", we should discuss "600 will not hold" at present.

That is right. The price is more than $600 now. It is around $640. If the price can hold here, it is very good omen.

The price is $675 at the moment. That was a drop of $50 after the recent peak of $725. I think the correction is necessary.

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June 14, 2016, 07:12:02 AM
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For the price go down again to 400 some serious things need to be happening. I don't see this coming, since we got a positive market.
Perhaps after the halving?

The big whales can push down the price briefly down to $400. But it will not last long, the value is there.
Big whales can do anything they want with the price. But they want to profit from it, so why dump a lot of coins to lower the price if they can sell them slower and profit more?

If the whale open a short position and sell the bitcoin price to lower level, they can make profit from the short position.

But if more people use bitcoin in the future, the price will be higher even though the whales short the bitcoin.

whales of bitcoin can control the price, because they hold so many bitcoin. although many users. bitcoin whales will still be very influential.
As you can see now you see that the value of Bitcoin is now rising and it is already over the 400 so that is nice for people who is waiting for the moment to sell it.
But of course it is really nice that you are going to hold it now because the halving is also coming soon and that is nice.

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As you can see now you see that the value of Bitcoin is now rising and it is already over the 400 so that is nice for people who is waiting for the moment to sell it.
But of course it is really nice that you are going to hold it now because the halving is also coming soon and that is nice.

I will hold the bitcoin no matter the price. I think I will give a time scale of 10 years. I should be rewarded then.

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As you can see now you see that the value of Bitcoin is now rising and it is already over the 400 so that is nice for people who is waiting for the moment to sell it.
But of course it is really nice that you are going to hold it now because the halving is also coming soon and that is nice.

I will hold the bitcoin no matter the price. I think I will give a time scale of 10 years. I should be rewarded then.
the same for me, to be honest im never planning to sell bitcoins at least not right now when there is a big chance that bitcoin price will keep on going significantly up thus allowing me to earn

i hope that the price of near 700 dollars will hold and after that i hope that bitcoin price will start going up really fast thus allowing all the investors to earn some money out of bitcoins
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June 16, 2016, 12:06:23 PM
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As you can see now you see that the value of Bitcoin is now rising and it is already over the 400 so that is nice for people who is waiting for the moment to sell it.
But of course it is really nice that you are going to hold it now because the halving is also coming soon and that is nice.

I will hold the bitcoin no matter the price. I think I will give a time scale of 10 years. I should be rewarded then.
the same for me, to be honest im never planning to sell bitcoins at least not right now when there is a big chance that bitcoin price will keep on going significantly up thus allowing me to earn

i hope that the price of near 700 dollars will hold and after that i hope that bitcoin price will start going up really fast thus allowing all the investors to earn some money out of bitcoins

I will do the same. I keep the bitcoin for the long term. The current price of $750 is not attractive at all.

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