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January 16, 2016, 09:59:26 PM
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Ore-mine.org's domain has been seized by the government.

www.ore-mine.org

It was an obvious Ponzi, but they seemed so small scale that they might evade detection. Nope!

There are a couple other sites out there running similar Ponzi-style shenanigans. Take heed, you're not fooling anyone.

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January 16, 2016, 10:03:14 PM
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Ore-mine.org's domain has been seized by the government.

www.ore-mine.org

It was an obvious Ponzi, but they seemed so small scale that they might evade detection. Nope!

There are a couple other sites out there running similar Ponzi-style shenanigans. Take heed, you're not fooling anyone.

They did evade detection!

That is not a real seizure.

It is a simple way for the site owners to not have to pay back the people who invested.

It is also just an image that they used that they got from a seizure of another site.
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January 16, 2016, 10:04:48 PM
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Ore-mine.org's domain has been seized by the government.

www.ore-mine.org

It was an obvious Ponzi, but they seemed so small scale that they might evade detection. Nope!

There are a couple other sites out there running similar Ponzi-style shenanigans. Take heed, you're not fooling anyone.

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OMG IT's true!
A lot of people spend money and time around here.. but why they close now and for what type of accuse?
also the coins deposited were seized?
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January 16, 2016, 10:07:53 PM
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Ore-mine.org's domain has been seized by the government.

www.ore-mine.org

It was an obvious Ponzi, but they seemed so small scale that they might evade detection. Nope!

There are a couple other sites out there running similar Ponzi-style shenanigans. Take heed, you're not fooling anyone.

They did evade detection!

That is not a real seizure.

It is a simple way for the site owners to not have to pay back the people who invested.

It is also just an image that they used that they got from a seizure of another site.

Good point actually. I wonder if they were really seized or the owner just ran and put up a fake page.

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January 16, 2016, 10:14:17 PM
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http://www.justice.gov/usao-sdny/pr

There's no mention on the press page in the southern district of NY for this seizure. I would think there should be uv they really seized it. The attorney's office likes to make splashy announcements to deter other bad actors.

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January 16, 2016, 10:15:39 PM
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This is actually being discussed on another thread:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=759702.0;topicseen

They replaced their landing page with an image and seemed to have planned this flawless change in order to not arise any suspician.

When the governments usually seize a server, they tend to take it offline pretty quickly. If they seized the server, they would have shut it down and have reimbursed as many people as possible.
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January 16, 2016, 10:21:48 PM
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This is actually being discussed on another thread:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=759702.0;topicseen

They replaced their landing page with an image and seemed to have planned this flawless change in order to not arise any suspician.

When the governments usually seize a server, they tend to take it offline pretty quickly. If they seized the server, they would have shut it down and have reimbursed as many people as possible.

rembourse? No I don't think so... how has access to this private key?
what is the principal wallet?
I think that "rembourse" need time, a lot of time, also justice need some time... and eventually how to set up this payment?
I mean... they have to count also interests?
People that get 90% from their first deposit need to been compensate "after" who get only 40% and so on...
I think is not simple...
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January 16, 2016, 10:29:04 PM
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it was really to suspicious as site  Roll Eyes
to simple get money without do anything!!!!

Ore-mine.org's domain has been seized by the government.

www.ore-mine.org

It was an obvious Ponzi, but they seemed so small scale that they might evade detection. Nope!

There are a couple other sites out there running similar Ponzi-style shenanigans. Take heed, you're not fooling anyone.
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January 16, 2016, 10:50:02 PM
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This is actually being discussed on another thread:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=759702.0;topicseen

They replaced their landing page with an image and seemed to have planned this flawless change in order to not arise any suspician.

When the governments usually seize a server, they tend to take it offline pretty quickly. If they seized the server, they would have shut it down and have reimbursed as many people as possible.

Thanks for the link to that thread. I agree, the "shut down" looks totally fake. Can't say I have sympathy for anyone who lost money. It was an obvious scam.

If this was a legitimate take down, gov. wouldn't return money this quickly though. The notice would be the notice of the website take down, but no reimbursements could be done until a conviction or plea deal. There still needs to be due process.

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January 16, 2016, 10:55:22 PM
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This is actually being discussed on another thread:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=759702.0;topicseen

They replaced their landing page with an image and seemed to have planned this flawless change in order to not arise any suspician.

When the governments usually seize a server, they tend to take it offline pretty quickly. If they seized the server, they would have shut it down and have reimbursed as many people as possible.

Thanks for the link to that thread. I agree, the "shut down" looks totally fake. Can't say I have sympathy for anyone who lost money. It was an obvious scam.

If this was a legitimate take down, gov. wouldn't return money this quickly though. The notice would be the notice of the website take down, but no reimbursements could be done until a conviction or plea deal. There still needs to be due process.

Yes, this is correct. If the government did order the shutdown, it woudl just be the shutown. Then, they would try to recover lost funds, onced they seized the website and its owner.
I luckily only invested 0.0055 BTC. I invested 0.005 BTC in doublebot and want to see how that goes (still hopefull).
They would also email all the email addresses stored in their database before starting trial proceedings against the leaders so that, if the victims wanted to, they coud see the "leaders" being brought to justice.
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January 16, 2016, 10:58:02 PM
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Yep obvious scam but a fun one. I loved it and it will be missed but certianly not angry by it. it was just a matter of time.
The change to buy a mine and get double payout in 1 month is what killed it
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January 16, 2016, 11:03:51 PM
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Yep obvious scam but a fun one. I loved it and it will be missed but certianly not angry by it. it was just a matter of time.
The change to buy a mine and get double payout in 1 month is what killed it

Skatter, I think now is a good time to remove that site from your signature!
It was really fun while it lasted, quite a good game (still don't really understand some of it). It was also a good faucet, low paying one though!)
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January 16, 2016, 11:09:39 PM
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another happy ending Smiley

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January 16, 2016, 11:19:47 PM
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The site wasn't taken down by the US government. This landing page is simply because the ponzi collapsed and the owner needed a way out.

As you can see here, the domain still has the whois information of someone from the Russian Federation. In addition to this, the nameservers are still pointed to ns1.nameself.com and ns2.nameself.com, two servers also hosted in Russia. If it were legit, why would the US government be holding the server in a Russian registrar's servers?
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January 16, 2016, 11:51:51 PM
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The shut-down is clearly a fake one, and it could just be one last reason for the owner to disappear, or an excuse.

Unfortunately, this long ponzi ended. However, I assume that most people who were smart about it have profited from this scheme.

The biggest sign was when the New Year's mines went up, but there was also the huge amount of positive comments without anything negative about Ore-Mine on the front page. I was skeptical, but I guess it paid off.
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January 16, 2016, 11:57:12 PM
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is ore mine a ponzi?
I remember thread in scam accusation board... this type of thread doesn't need any reply...
because if someone could earn with investment such amount can only take private loan from a bank...
trust in this type of return is a scamming approach from the beginning.
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January 17, 2016, 12:46:28 AM
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Nothing new. It is just another "cloud mining" scam. How many of these cloud scams have we seen so far.... People don't seem to learn.

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January 17, 2016, 02:21:37 AM
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This is actually being discussed on another thread:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=759702.0;topicseen

They replaced their landing page with an image and seemed to have planned this flawless change in order to not arise any suspician.

When the governments usually seize a server, they tend to take it offline pretty quickly. If they seized the server, they would have shut it down and have reimbursed as many people as possible.

Thanks for the link to that thread. I agree, the "shut down" looks totally fake. Can't say I have sympathy for anyone who lost money. It was an obvious scam.

If this was a legitimate take down, gov. wouldn't return money this quickly though. The notice would be the notice of the website take down, but no reimbursements could be done until a conviction or plea deal. There still needs to be due process.

Yes, this is correct. If the government did order the shutdown, it woudl just be the shutown. Then, they would try to recover lost funds, onced they seized the website and its owner.
I luckily only invested 0.0055 BTC. I invested 0.005 BTC in doublebot and want to see how that goes (still hopefull).
They would also email all the email addresses stored in their database before starting trial proceedings against the leaders so that, if the victims wanted to, they coud see the "leaders" being brought to justice.

Is doublebot the same type of scammy site? Bitcoin Factory is another one I'm aware of, but at least that one makes some income off ads. I'm curious, if doublebot is another ponzi-like site, and you are aware of this, why do you bother with them in the first place? Is it just the thrill of getting in early and trying to milk some btc out of them before they fold up?

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January 17, 2016, 02:24:21 AM
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The site wasn't taken down by the US government. This landing page is simply because the ponzi collapsed and the owner needed a way out.

As you can see here, the domain still has the whois information of someone from the Russian Federation. In addition to this, the nameservers are still pointed to ns1.nameself.com and ns2.nameself.com, two servers also hosted in Russia. If it were legit, why would the US government be holding the server in a Russian registrar's servers?

Yeah, I realized pretty quickly after I posted this that this "seizure" by the government was faked. But your information about the registration information is very useful. Can the US authorities even seize a domain hosted in Russia?

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January 17, 2016, 05:42:11 AM
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Ore-mine.org's domain has been seized by the government.

www.ore-mine.org

It was an obvious Ponzi, but they seemed so small scale that they might evade detection. Nope!

There are a couple other sites out there running similar Ponzi-style shenanigans. Take heed, you're not fooling anyone.

They did evade detection!

That is not a real seizure.

It is a simple way for the site owners to not have to pay back the people who invested.

It is also just an image that they used that they got from a seizure of another site.

Really. I looked so real the first time I saw it. But I guess the pictures are really fake and that kind of gave it away for me.
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