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January 17, 2016, 05:43:29 PM
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As far as i know ledger wallets and trezor are compatible to be used with or on Mycelium mobile app, so they can work even if ledger or trezor website/servers are down? Please correct me if i am wrong.
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January 17, 2016, 05:43:51 PM
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In my opinion a paper wallet would probably be your best way to store for a couple of years although I would more than likely change paper wallets every year just to make sure, a. I still knew where I put it.
B. To make sure it didn't fade get ripped

I read about from paper wallets but never used before.

As I know I can make a paper wallet, which contains the wallet address and the private key. This is totally offline.

When I want to send coins from this address I need to import my wallet with my private key. (Similar when I copy wallet.dat to a pendrive)

Am i right?
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January 17, 2016, 06:48:10 PM
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If you don't want to spend money on hardware, paper wallet is good choice.
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January 17, 2016, 06:56:28 PM
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If you don't want to spend money on hardware, paper wallet is good choice.
The cheapest hardware wallet as far as i know is the ledger HW.1 which is 15€ it's not expensive saying the truth, then ledger nano, ledger unpluged, trezor, keepkey.
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January 17, 2016, 07:03:44 PM
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If you don't want to spend money on hardware, paper wallet is good choice.
The cheapest hardware wallet as far as i know is the ledger HW.1 which is 15€ it's not expensive saying the truth, then ledger nano, ledger unpluged, trezor, keepkey.

My friend bought a ledger nano, but actually I don't know how it works Sad

This is a combinated online/hardware wallet? Or a separate offline wallet?
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January 17, 2016, 07:20:32 PM
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If you don't want to spend money on hardware, paper wallet is good choice.
The cheapest hardware wallet as far as i know is the ledger HW.1 which is 15€ it's not expensive saying the truth, then ledger nano, ledger unpluged, trezor, keepkey.

My friend bought a ledger nano, but actually I don't know how it works Sad

This is a combinated online/hardware wallet? Or a separate offline wallet?
Ledger nano is not independent to work, so you must be set up on a computer you trust 100%, i would consider as a combination of hot and cold wallet.
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January 17, 2016, 07:44:08 PM
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If you don't want to spend money on hardware, paper wallet is good choice.
The cheapest hardware wallet as far as i know is the ledger HW.1 which is 15€ it's not expensive saying the truth, then ledger nano, ledger unpluged, trezor, keepkey.

My friend bought a ledger nano, but actually I don't know how it works Sad

This is a combinated online/hardware wallet? Or a separate offline wallet?
Ledger nano is not independent to work, so you must be set up on a computer you trust 100%, i would consider as a combination of hot and cold wallet.

Not necessary true on Ledger Nano.  I suggest in my hands for all to get the starter option that use it.  It is a live usb linux that is a secure OS you run off usb.  It is 100 percent offline and does not store seeds.  You have to write them down from it.  So say computer is compromised by using starter option your still safe.

Here is my hands on with Ledger Nano:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1305888.0
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January 17, 2016, 07:47:38 PM
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I would assume paper would be the safest, but a good hardware wallet like keep key or trezor, or a dedicated machine who's only purpos is running the Bitcoin client off line.

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January 17, 2016, 07:52:47 PM
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I would assume paper would be the safest, but a good hardware wallet like keep key or trezor, or a dedicated machine who's only purpos is running the Bitcoin client off line.

Personally I like hardware wallets over a dedicated machine.  Trezor is likely the most popular.  For it to keep key on it and do the signing is huge as it can't be compromised.  A dedicated machine has a lot more chance of compromise.  I also did a hands on with one: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1298917.0

Paper wallets are still a valid option.  If you are sitting money aside and not touching it for year's.  It possibly is best option.  All depends on use.
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January 17, 2016, 07:58:03 PM
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These days people like an easy way , for example many of them trust a third parties like exchange , online wallet even they forget to enable the second factor authentication(if EXTs like you hackers will not) , so i think it is bad idea to trust a third parties with a big amount of BTC even for 4-5 mnt .
Best way is use offline encrypted wallet @ using Linux as host (virus free) ,

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January 17, 2016, 10:59:14 PM
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These days people like an easy way , for example many of them trust a third parties like exchange , online wallet even they forget to enable the second factor authentication(if EXTs like you hackers will not) , so i think it is bad idea to trust a third parties with a big amount of BTC even for 4-5 mnt .
Best way is use offline encrypted wallet @ using Linux as host (virus free) ,

If you truly are not going to use it I think a properly done paper is better then a computer even offline and encrypted.    Paper there is no connecting it to online if done proper and stored like in a safety deposit box, that is really secure.   

And I have became pretty big believer in hardware wallets.  If your going to use it and need access to it I think then go hardware.
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January 18, 2016, 02:56:02 AM
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January 18, 2016, 06:10:12 AM
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If you don't want to spend money on hardware, paper wallet is good choice.
Paper wallet is good. but its an easy disposable thing but hardware wallets is not like that. The better choice is to have backup data in two or three forms.

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January 18, 2016, 07:45:15 AM
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i'm going to store them in the future, in a personal mini server with a mini-itx board, i choose the antec slim mini itx case, for this purpose

a machien dedicated for runnign the client only, so it's safe from everything

Hi Amph!

Very good but very difficult to me.  Smiley

why? you only need to buy a dedicate mini itx server, a computer, then use it only to run the client, no surfing no downloading, no anything else, pretty safe

And what if it is burning down or something else?

you're really asking this?, it's like askign if a computer will burn down at random, which is no sense, a mini itx, is just a computer but with a small factor
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January 18, 2016, 02:15:38 PM
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These days people like an easy way , for example many of them trust a third parties like exchange , online wallet even they forget to enable the second factor authentication(if EXTs like you hackers will not) , so i think it is bad idea to trust a third parties with a big amount of BTC even for 4-5 mnt .
Best way is use offline encrypted wallet @ using Linux as host (virus free) ,

in most cases the problem is with the exchanger running away with the money or saying "we were hacked so your bitcion is gone!".
2FA only works if your fund holder (the exchanger) is still in its place and holding your money.

i think blockchain.info is better option .than other wallet

you have to do some search my friend.
online wallets can be safe but are never a better choice.

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January 18, 2016, 03:27:52 PM
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In my opinion a paper wallet would probably be your best way to store for a couple of years although I would more than likely change paper wallets every year just to make sure, a. I still knew where I put it.
B. To make sure it didn't fade get ripped
Go laminate your paper wallet and put in album. But as paper wallet only paper, high chance to get lost unless put in safe file or document
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January 18, 2016, 07:31:50 PM
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In my opinion a paper wallet would probably be your best way to store for a couple of years although I would more than likely change paper wallets every year just to make sure, a. I still knew where I put it.
B. To make sure it didn't fade get ripped
Go laminate your paper wallet and put in album. But as paper wallet only paper, high chance to get lost unless put in safe file or document

Pal you can save the bitcoin paper wallet in pdf format in your pendrive or desktop, better to take in soft copy.
Else you can try any offline wallet like Electrum or multibit, that you can utilize to avoid from scamming and you can numerous bitcoin address in one wallet. try for it if possible.
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January 19, 2016, 02:27:26 AM
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a multisignature bitcoin address will fit perfectly, and then store the paper wallet to somewhere you can trust, your home, your bank, and then someone closely related with you..
search for multisig bitcoin address on youtube
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January 19, 2016, 08:50:05 AM
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This is very difficult. But I would recommend you the following:
1/3 in Paper Wallets
1/3 in storage things like the Trezor https://www.bitcointrezor.com/
1/3 in trusted online service like Blockchain.info

I think with this strategy you have good changes to bring your BTC over the next years.

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