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February 08, 2016, 12:04:53 PM |
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Cause unwanted children in families that can't afford them is the solution?
they cant afford them because the jobs, welfare and housing are going to paki/nigger immigrants What's cool with you is your vision of the thing. It's always so simple with you xD Just kill the niggers! |
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salinizm
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February 08, 2016, 02:59:09 PM |
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ASCOLI PICENO, Italy — After Benedetta, 35, found out 11 weeks into her pregnancy that the baby she wanted “with all myself” had extremely serious genetic problems, she made a painful decision, and asked her longtime gynecologist for an abortion. Her doctor’s refusal — she said she was a conscientious objector to Italy’s law that makes abortion legal up to 90 days — set off a desperate scramble to find a doctor who would help her. At one hospital, doctors advised her to get a psychiatrist’s note saying she had threatened to kill herself, so that she could extend the legal time limit. At another, a doctor suggested that she just wait. “ ‘The fetus is incompatible with life; you will very likely lose it anyway past the 20th week’ — that’s what this doctor told me,” Benedetta said, still angry and incredulous. She asked that her last name not be used to protect her privacy. “To expect a woman to see her belly growing, to raise a doomed life, is inhumane.” “I felt like a container, not a human being,” she added. After a fight that feminists in Italy still consider a signal achievement, abortion within 90 days of pregnancy — and later for women in mental or physical danger, or in cases of serious fetal pathologies — has been legal in this country for over three decades. But that does not mean that finding a doctor to perform one is easy. Seventy percent of gynecologists — up to 83 percent in some conservative southern regions — are conscientious objectors to the law, and do not perform abortions for religious or personal reasons in a country that remains, culturally at least, overwhelmingly Catholic. It is a circumstance that has alarmed some women’s health experts, who say that the challenges will grow only more severe in the years ahead. http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/17/world/europe/on-paper-italy-allows-abortions-but-few-doctors-will-perform-them.html?ref=worldi hate these religious stuff that dont let the people make free decision about their lives.. thats bullshit.. if one needs to get abortion, it should be done.. |
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bizerinm
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February 08, 2016, 03:04:40 PM |
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Abortion is free choice. If nobody will perform this what will happen with unwanted child? But better should be working on prevention
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February 08, 2016, 10:31:18 PM |
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Prevention and of course if woman want to do it should be performed by doctor so she won't have consequences later
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February 09, 2016, 05:50:00 PM |
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ASCOLI PICENO, Italy — After Benedetta, 35, found out 11 weeks into her pregnancy that the baby she wanted “with all myself” had extremely serious genetic problems, she made a painful decision, and asked her longtime gynecologist for an abortion. Her doctor’s refusal — she said she was a conscientious objector to Italy’s law that makes abortion legal up to 90 days — set off a desperate scramble to find a doctor who would help her. At one hospital, doctors advised her to get a psychiatrist’s note saying she had threatened to kill herself, so that she could extend the legal time limit. At another, a doctor suggested that she just wait. “ ‘The fetus is incompatible with life; you will very likely lose it anyway past the 20th week’ — that’s what this doctor told me,” Benedetta said, still angry and incredulous. She asked that her last name not be used to protect her privacy. “To expect a woman to see her belly growing, to raise a doomed life, is inhumane.” “I felt like a container, not a human being,” she added. After a fight that feminists in Italy still consider a signal achievement, abortion within 90 days of pregnancy — and later for women in mental or physical danger, or in cases of serious fetal pathologies — has been legal in this country for over three decades. But that does not mean that finding a doctor to perform one is easy. Seventy percent of gynecologists — up to 83 percent in some conservative southern regions — are conscientious objectors to the law, and do not perform abortions for religious or personal reasons in a country that remains, culturally at least, overwhelmingly Catholic. It is a circumstance that has alarmed some women’s health experts, who say that the challenges will grow only more severe in the years ahead. http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/17/world/europe/on-paper-italy-allows-abortions-but-few-doctors-will-perform-them.html?ref=worldi cant get this mindset because everbody has right to decide what will happen to their own body and one needs to get abortion it should be done.. |
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bizerinm
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February 10, 2016, 12:39:27 AM |
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Woman then will find place to do it and who knows in what conditions..beside what would be destiny of unwanted child?
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craked5
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February 10, 2016, 11:37:38 AM |
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Abortion is free choice. If nobody will perform this what will happen with unwanted child? But better should be working on prevention
The question is not the free choice of abortion dude. Yes it's free of choice in lots of countries, civilized countries. The question is is refusing to proceed to an abortion free of choice? Or should we make it mandatory for doctors to accept to proceed to abortions in general? Because here that's the free choice of the doctor that is questioned. |
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saddampbuh
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February 10, 2016, 11:46:51 AM |
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What's cool with you is your vision of the thing. It's always so simple with you xD
Just kill the niggers!
if you keep taking in people and giving them the housing and social security, and those newcomers drain a disproportionate amount of those things (which muslims and blacks do) relative to their population size, the remainder is going to be spread more thinly among your own population. |
Be radical, have principles, be absolute, be that which the bourgeoisie calls an extremist: give yourself without counting or calculating, don't accept what they call ‘the reality of life' and act in such a way that you won't be accepted by that kind of ‘life', never abandon the principle of struggle.
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craked5
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February 10, 2016, 12:44:46 PM |
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if you keep taking in people and giving them the housing and social security, and those newcomers drain a disproportionate amount of those things (which muslims and blacks do) relative to their population size, the remainder is going to be spread more thinly among your own population.
Sure, disproportion amount. What adjectives do you use for the capital deflection from capital investments then? Around 40% of the PIB goes directly in the pocket of investors. Doesn't it seem like "a disproportion amount drained compared to their population"? |
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February 10, 2016, 12:45:07 PM |
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Woman then will find place to do it and who knows in what conditions..beside what would be destiny of unwanted child?
Not always. Remember the case of Romania? In the 1980s, Nicolae Ceaușescu banned abortions and all forms of birth control and family planning. Some of the women performed abortions illegally. But most of them were unable to terminate their pregnancies. In a few years time, hundreds of thousands of unwanted babies were abandoned in the churches and railway stations of Romania. |
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craked5
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February 10, 2016, 01:04:13 PM |
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Woman then will find place to do it and who knows in what conditions..beside what would be destiny of unwanted child?
Not always. Remember the case of Romania? In the 1980s, Nicolae Ceaușescu banned abortions and all forms of birth control and family planning. Some of the women performed abortions illegally. But most of them were unable to terminate their pregnancies. In a few years time, hundreds of thousands of unwanted babies were abandoned in the churches and railway stations of Romania. Yeah abortion is far from easy. Even with perfect medical condition, help from government, a developed society not too religious (so without a tremendous amount of social pressure to keep the baby) it's not an easy step to take. So doing it illegaly? And by yourself??? Oo No woman should have to deal with such a thing. |
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saddampbuh
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February 10, 2016, 01:16:58 PM |
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Sure, disproportion amount.
What adjectives do you use for the capital deflection from capital investments then? Around 40% of the PIB goes directly in the pocket of investors. Doesn't it seem like "a disproportion amount drained compared to their population"?
in plain english please |
Be radical, have principles, be absolute, be that which the bourgeoisie calls an extremist: give yourself without counting or calculating, don't accept what they call ‘the reality of life' and act in such a way that you won't be accepted by that kind of ‘life', never abandon the principle of struggle.
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February 10, 2016, 01:58:13 PM |
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Sure, disproportion amount.
What adjectives do you use for the capital deflection from capital investments then? Around 40% of the PIB goes directly in the pocket of investors. Doesn't it seem like "a disproportion amount drained compared to their population"?
in plain english please Can't help you much more... Investors (mainly banks) through capital take back 40% of the PIB on average. Don't you feel it's disproportionate relative to the number of their population? |
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saddampbuh
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February 10, 2016, 05:52:35 PM |
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Can't help you much more...
Investors (mainly banks) through capital take back 40% of the PIB on average.
Don't you feel it's disproportionate relative to the number of their population?
don't know what a pib is and i'm not seeing the connection between whatever anti capitalist point you're trying to make and opposing mass islamic/nigger immigration to our countries |
Be radical, have principles, be absolute, be that which the bourgeoisie calls an extremist: give yourself without counting or calculating, don't accept what they call ‘the reality of life' and act in such a way that you won't be accepted by that kind of ‘life', never abandon the principle of struggle.
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adverbelly
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February 10, 2016, 05:56:08 PM |
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Today it's hardly to believe that with all pills, condoms and so on woman can be pregnant without planing it. Abortion should be necessary in cases like the baby has serious genetic problems and won't be normal person.
you are wrong.. all these birth control way doesnt protect %100 .. there is %1 of change of getting pregnant while you are on pill or something.. |
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youdamushi
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February 11, 2016, 09:08:23 AM |
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Today it's hardly to believe that with all pills, condoms and so on woman can be pregnant without planing it. Abortion should be necessary in cases like the baby has serious genetic problems and won't be normal person.
It's hard because you never faced it. I know someone who was in this situation. And she was under pills. Problem is that first you don't add the protections. You're not going to use pills + condoms (otherwise what's the point of the pills?). And the one you'll use might not work, it happens. |
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