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January 19, 2016, 06:51:45 AM
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https://medium.com/@BitFuryGroup/keep-calm-and-bitcoin-on-4f29d581276#.dz7yrygg0

FACT 1: Bitcoin Is Not an Electronic Payments System Like PayPal

FACT 2: Bitcoin Is Not and Should Not Be Free to Use

FACT 3: Bitcoin Transaction Processing Is Not Presently Clogged

FACT 4: Miners Embrace Bitcoin’s Popularity

FACT 5: Bitcoin Mining Is Decentralized

FACT 6: Mass Rule is Not Appropriate for Bitcoin

FACT 7: Bitcoin XT Would Not Have Solved Bitcoin’s Challenges

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I think FACT 6 is worth debating, because if mass rule is not working, less rule is even less likely to be working. Maybe Valery is threatening to overtake bitcoin by building a miner's consortium  Cheesy

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January 19, 2016, 06:57:03 AM
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Fact 1# it has obsoleted everything  Smiley

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January 19, 2016, 02:27:47 PM
Last edit: January 19, 2016, 04:28:54 PM by johnyj
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Fact 1# it has obsoleted everything  Smiley

I think Fact 1# is quite accurate, trying to compare bitcoin with papal or VISA is similar to comparing car traffic vs train traffic. Even some devs are openly use this comparison, showing that their poor knowledge when it comes to finance

People should be aware that unlike bitcoin, any transaction between financial institutions (Banks, exchanges, payment processors) do not move money at all, it barely change numbers in a centralized database that stored in those institution's server, so that the net debt between those institutions changes as a result. This makes it possible to do thousands or even millions of transactions per second, because all the change is towards one database on one server, and the memory bandwidth of this server can be over 100 Gigabytes per second

To put the same traffic on bitcoin network, you have to make sure the internet connection of each user is 100GB per second, e.g. 1T bps, several magnitudes larger than the fastest home internet speed, not even mention cross continental traffic bandwidth, which typically is 100KB per second today

Another difference is the storage. Bitcoin has to store everyone's balance on blockchain. Financial institutions only store their customers balance data, they don't store data of customers of another institution, or even another branch in the same institution. This makes the size of their database highly manageable

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January 19, 2016, 02:32:07 PM
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Fact 1# it has obsoleted everything  Smiley

I think Fact 1# is quite accurate, trying to compare bitcoin with papal or VISA is similar to comparing car traffic vs train traffic. Even some devs are openly use this comparison, showing that their poor knowledge when it comes to finance

People should be aware that unlike bitcoin, any transaction between financial institutions (Banks, exchanges, payment processors) do not move money at all, it barely change numbers in a centralized database that stored in those institution's server, so that the debt between those institutions changes as a result. This makes it possible to do thousands or even millions of transactions per second, because all the change is towards one database on one server, and the memory bandwidth of this server can be over 100 Gigabytes per second

To put the same traffic on bitcoin network, you have to make sure the internet connection of each user is 100GB per second, e.g. 1T bps, several magnitudes larger than the fastest home internet speed, not even mention cross continental traffic bandwidth, which typically is 100KB per second today

Another difference is the storage. Bitcoin has to store everyone's balance on blockchain. Financial institutions only store their customers balance data, they don't store data of customers of another institution, or even another branch in the same institution. This makes the size of their database highly manageable


You left out the part where Bitcoin Ledger is public and distributed, and due to this finally solves the “Byzantine General's" problem.
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January 19, 2016, 02:38:42 PM
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It is true that with Bitcoin, money really "moves" in the sense that when it changes hands everybody in the network is allowed to know about it. With fiat there is no registry that money is moving at all, only in the private databases of institutions. Very good point indeed.

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January 21, 2016, 11:33:54 AM
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It is true that with Bitcoin, money really "moves" in the sense that when it changes hands everybody in the network is allowed to know about it. With fiat there is no registry that money is moving at all, only in the private databases of institutions. Very good point indeed.

Interesting point. What's better that everyone can have backups, and check that everything is all right.
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