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January 19, 2016, 10:20:33 AM
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Well kayo na humusga sa nakalap ko sa internet check nyo nalang yung link site

http://news.softpedia.com/news/bitcoin-is-dying-says-famous-bitcoin-developer-499044.shtml

well ginawa ko tong thread para magtanong kung ano tingin ninyo dito!
ngayon ko lang nakita eh Tongue
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January 19, 2016, 11:27:11 AM
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Nangyari to last week kaya and one of the possible reason why nagdrop ung price from $420 to $360 pero nagstabilize na ulit at ngaun nasa $380. May point naman si Hearn pero I don't think Bitcoin will die especially with the Chinese owning most of the mining hardwares. Di nila hahayaan na bumagsak yan kasi malaking profit ang mawawala sa kanila at madami silang bitcoin users kaya mahirap kaya nilang icontrol ang market. Madami din ibang coins dyan na mas advanced sa bitcoin pero awaiting lang ng enough traction to penetrate major markets. Madami ang investors ng bitcoin kaya kahit sablay na ung features nila tutuloy pa din yan. Take for example ibang coins like Dash, Paycoin, Ripple etc. can transfer funds in less than 5 minutes as oppose to bitcoins' 30 minutes - 1 hr pero still di sila sumisikat dahil walang malaking backer or financer. Nasa bitcoin ang mga funds ng mga mayayaman e, and it's all about the money Smiley

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January 19, 2016, 12:18:15 PM
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yan yung summary nung sinasabi ni Mike Hearns, if titingnan mo yung punto niya, tama naman...kaso, hindi tayo pwede magpanic and mag benta ng bitcoin... mas makakadagdag sa bigat ng papasanin para tumulak ulit ang presyo pataas...  Smiley

Mukhang nakatulong pa nga e, kasi ngaun malapit na ung Bitcoin Classic which increases the size of blockchain. Sort of nagkaroon ng kamulatan, pag nag increase na ung blockchain mababawasan ung issues (medyo problema nga lng siguro sa mabagal ang connectivity) which will bring further stability sa bitcoin.

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January 19, 2016, 12:19:01 PM
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bitcoin is not dying.
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January 19, 2016, 12:24:27 PM
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Ah kaya pala? ganun pala nangyari salamat sa mga sumagot guys nagulat lang ako ngayon ko lang nabasa siya pala ang dahilan kung bakit bumaba and bitcoin pero at least stable na ulit ang takbo ng Bitcoin, akala ko naman kung ano na may nagsabi kasi na kaibigan ko na yung kaibigan daw niya na nag mine ng bitcoin tinigil na ang mining dahil daw jan hehe Grin
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January 19, 2016, 01:09:26 PM
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Ah kaya pala? ganun pala nangyari salamat sa mga sumagot guys nagulat lang ako ngayon ko lang nabasa siya pala ang dahilan kung bakit bumaba and bitcoin pero at least stable na ulit ang takbo ng Bitcoin, akala ko naman kung ano na may nagsabi kasi na kaibigan ko na yung kaibigan daw niya na nag mine ng bitcoin tinigil na ang mining dahil daw jan hehe Grin

Haha, articles will always try to get as much attention as possible to increase their view count and that is by either putting in interesting pictures (related or not) or exaggerate the titles Smiley

Sabihan mo agad un, sayang naman mining nya pero dito kaya sya nagooperate ng miners nya or naka cloud? Parang maliit lang kita nya or lugi kung dito ang operations e

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January 19, 2016, 01:24:46 PM
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Kung alam ko lang na gagawin ni hearns yan last week, nag short sana ako. Laki ng tubo ko. O yun ang ginawa nia?  Kahit nag exit sia, tumubo pa rin sia ng almost 100$ per bitcoin. Pwede ba mangyari to?
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January 19, 2016, 01:41:22 PM
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Kung alam ko lang na gagawin ni hearns yan last week, nag short sana ako. Laki ng tubo ko. O yun ang ginawa nia?  Kahit nag exit sia, tumubo pa rin sia ng almost 100$ per bitcoin. Pwede ba mangyari to?

Oh? ibig sabihin kahihiyan ang ginawa niya sa bitcoin community? hehe...

Kuro kuro ko lang yan, base lang yan imahinasyon ko. Kaya tinatanong ko sa mga expert kung pwede ba mangyari ang ganon strategy. Mag short position, mag labas ng news to bring price down. Cash in.
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January 19, 2016, 01:45:26 PM
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Kung alam ko lang na gagawin ni hearns yan last week, nag short sana ako. Laki ng tubo ko. O yun ang ginawa nia?  Kahit nag exit sia, tumubo pa rin sia ng almost 100$ per bitcoin. Pwede ba mangyari to?

Oh? ibig sabihin kahihiyan ang ginawa niya sa bitcoin community? hehe...

Kuro kuro ko lang yan, base lang yan imahinasyon ko. Kaya tinatanong ko sa mga expert kung pwede ba mangyari ang ganon strategy. Mag short position, mag labas ng news to bring price down. Cash in.


$80 ang naging dip ng price ng bitcoin at that time. Sa tingin ko nabayaran yan ng nilipatan nyang project para magsalita ng ganun. Sinabi nya ano downside ng bitcoin para magkaroon ng focus dun sa linipatan nyang project so may marketing na ding involve. Tapos sa project na un, pwedeng may mga hawak silang bitcoins at para mapadami ang coins nila nag sell then buy sila knowing na bababa ang price pag naglabas ng issue si Hearn. At the end, additional funds sa project at kay Hearn kapalit ng paglipat nya. Just my two sats Smiley

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January 20, 2016, 12:37:01 AM
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When bitcoin is really and truly decentralized, any single individual will no longer have an effect on bitcoin. He was a core developer who lost his faith or his way or drive.

But even with his departure, the price is still way higher than it was a few years ago.

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January 20, 2016, 06:30:30 AM
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When bitcoin is really and truly decentralized, any single individual will no longer have an effect on bitcoin. He was a core developer who lost his faith or his way or drive.

But even with his departure, the price is still way higher than it was a few years ago.

But the way things are going now, a single country (China) has been taking the majority part of bitcoin industry whether it is mining or trading. If the Chinese billionaires decide to pump up the price they can do so. There are numerous reports that China helped in pumping the price to $500 last year. So if ang bitcoin ay may malaking backer, mahirap itong pabagsakin.

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January 20, 2016, 06:32:39 AM
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When bitcoin is really and truly decentralized, any single individual will no longer have an effect on bitcoin. He was a core developer who lost his faith or his way or drive.

But even with his departure, the price is still way higher than it was a few years ago.

But the way things are going now, a single country (China) has been taking the majority part of bitcoin industry whether it is mining or trading. If the Chinese billionaires decide to pump up the price they can do so. There are numerous reports that China helped in pumping the price to $500 last year. So if ang bitcoin ay may malaking backer, mahirap itong pabagsakin.

may point din, kasi kung madami na mga malalaking bitcoiner ay nasa china, bale ang lalabas nyan pwede nila imanipulate yung btc price kung gsto nila dahil kaya nilang mag control o mag dump kahit kelan
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January 20, 2016, 06:56:48 AM
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When bitcoin is really and truly decentralized, any single individual will no longer have an effect on bitcoin. He was a core developer who lost his faith or his way or drive.

But even with his departure, the price is still way higher than it was a few years ago.

But the way things are going now, a single country (China) has been taking the majority part of bitcoin industry whether it is mining or trading. If the Chinese billionaires decide to pump up the price they can do so. There are numerous reports that China helped in pumping the price to $500 last year. So if ang bitcoin ay may malaking backer, mahirap itong pabagsakin.

may point din, kasi kung madami na mga malalaking bitcoiner ay nasa china, bale ang lalabas nyan pwede nila imanipulate yung btc price kung gsto nila dahil kaya nilang mag control o mag dump kahit kelan

Pero there's the possibility na pipiliin nila ung steady increase for now para makabili karamihan ng tao sa kanila, ung sudden growth to $500 brought bitcoin to news everywhere which means mas madami ng nakakaalam ng bitcoin ngaun as compared nung nasa $200 palang to few months ago. Mas maganda para sa kanila kung pasakayin muna nila ang karamihan via steady growth kaysa ung sudden increase baka walang bumili at karamihan ay magbenta pag umangat ng bigla. Pag steady climb madaling magkaroon ng market adoption e kasi ang habol ng merchants stability ng mode of payment e.

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January 20, 2016, 01:26:20 PM
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makisawsaw lang mga kabayan, hindi kaya sinisiraan lang nila nag bitcoin dahil may niluluto silang bagong crypto currency na pwede nila makontrol or  i manipulate kagaya ng ginagawa nila sa fiat currency natin ngayon?
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January 20, 2016, 02:40:07 PM
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makisawsaw lang mga kabayan, hindi kaya sinisiraan lang nila nag bitcoin dahil may niluluto silang bagong crypto currency na pwede nila makontrol or  i manipulate kagaya ng ginagawa nila sa fiat currency natin ngayon?

Palagi namang may bagong crypto at kanya kanya sila ng pinapakitang advantages pero mahihirapan silang pabagsakin ang bitcoin kasi madaming investors e. Siguro slowly may mga lalabas jn na magandang coin lalo na ung mga kayang magtransfer in 1 minute or less pero di pa siguro ngaun, kulang ng publicity e.

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January 20, 2016, 02:59:15 PM
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Teka last week pa ito ah. Di ka ba nagtaka bakit bumaba price??

Pwede pa request? Iedit ang thread title kasi article lang naman yan at saka parang nakakahiya sa Unread Post lists haha. May Philippines pa kasing nakasulat. Cheesy

2 times na nanghatak yan si Hearn ng price. Baka drama niya lang yan pero babalik din. Dapat sinama niya kumpare niyang si Gavin na nagbenta e baka umabot pa ng $200 ang dip haha which is around $280-$300. Hehe.

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January 20, 2016, 03:30:23 PM
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There are 500+ crypto-currencies. Bitcoin is still number one. Litecoin is a far second, or perhaps in the top 10.

Maski 70% or 80% ang Chinese, hindi sila papayag na babagsak ang bitcoin, kasi there is still 20% to 30% na iba that will keep it alive. (And if they are heavily invested, syempre they want the coin to succeed.)

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January 20, 2016, 04:06:19 PM
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Sa palagay ko hindi hindi ma wawla ang bitcoin dahil nakasanayan ng gamitin ang bitcoin. seguro in the future mababago ang systema ng bitcoin dahil punong puno nang mga iligal ang bitcoin world pati na rin sa underworld(darknet) ito na rin ang ginagamit nilang transaction dahil na rin sa mga iliganl nilang ginagawa... makikita nyu yan sa underword using onion.. pro bitcoin ginagamit nilang transaction at may maraming nag bebenta ng hack paypal account sa murang halaga at maymga laman na 1k usd ipapasa sa bitcoin wallet nyu..
pra saakin mahihirapan talagang mawala ang bitcoin at hindi sa panahon na ito mawawala ang bitcoin...
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January 20, 2016, 05:39:27 PM
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No other altcoin na magiging kagaya ni bitcoin. Pweh yang mga promising coins daw. Look at deur ngayon na pumatok 2 digits satoshi na lang yata ang price. Clams , Eth eventually will follow. Pero they are here to balance yan ang maganda.

Mula nung natuto ako magexchange trading, kinalimutan ko na mag altcoin trading kasi talagang not worth sa aking time, para sa akin lang ah.

Saka about sa Hearn drama, di niya mapapabagsak mag isa ang bitcoin kahit magsama pa sila ng kumpare niya sa XT na magbenta ng coins. Yes reasonable talaga ang mga proposal niya pero iyon lang ba talaga ang gusto nila? Malaking kawalan si Hearn kung tutuusin sa bitcoin world pero we can advanced kahit wala siya. Di na bata si bitcoin kagaya ng nakaugalian ng mga old timer at naaubutan ang pagiging baby pa nito.

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No other altcoin na magiging kagaya ni bitcoin. Pweh yang mga promising coins daw. Look at deur ngayon na pumatok 2 digits satoshi na lang yata ang price. Clams , Eth eventually will follow. Pero they are here to balance yan ang maganda.

Mula nung natuto ako magexchange trading, kinalimutan ko na mag altcoin trading kasi talagang not worth sa aking time, para sa akin lang ah.

Saka about sa Hearn drama, di niya mapapabagsak mag isa ang bitcoin kahit magsama pa sila ng kumpare niya sa XT na magbenta ng coins. Yes reasonable talaga ang mga proposal niya pero iyon lang ba talaga ang gusto nila? Malaking kawalan si Hearn kung tutuusin sa bitcoin world pero we can advanced kahit wala siya. Di na bata si bitcoin kagaya ng nakaugalian ng mga old timer at naaubutan ang pagiging baby pa nito.
anu naman yang exchange trading na yan pra malaman natin share mo naman baka jan ako magaling ... pwede na ring pang dag dag sa pambili ng gatas..
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