"Brave" - New, faster browser with integrated BTC micropayments

[Erkallys]

It seems really promising. However, the restriction to use only BitGo's wallet is not really cool. That's still good but it could be a lot better.

[SuperCoinGuy]

The blocking of external advertisements will automatically eliminate a huge portion of the Bitcoin faucet users. The majority of new adopters comes from people who started out

with faucets. It sound good at first, because it incorporate micro payments but the blocking of advertisements has a significant impact. Just create a plugin for micro payments

for IE and Firefox and include it as a default function and we set. 

Apparently it blocks the ads already on the site and substitutes them with its own ads so you see ads just not what is already on the site. This should waste more bandwidth though because it's downloading ads on top of the page. Probably not good for mobile usage.

[gkv9]

That's great news that someone from one of the most used browsers' company has joined hands with BitGo in order to build such a great browser for BTC-integrated payments available...

But the only thing being disliked here is, they will replace the ads with their own ads, I guess no-ads version would definitely do much better...

[BellaBitBit]

This is fantastic news. Always been a fan of the Mozilla people and everyone loves faster.  Most important of course is the acceptance of BTC.

[franky1]

This makes me have second thought about them. The good part would be the would surely manage to introduce BTCitcoin to some of it's users and the bad part would be, not sure if it would be entirely safe to use browser base wallets,

the in browser feature should only be used for pocket money amount to pay someone a few cents as a tip..
for larger amounts it would be advisable to send it to a non bitgo address. same principles of only using coinbase or blockchain.info for daily spend and then cold store for lifetime savings

on the faq tab they said "we will use BTC only for permissionless payment delivery to user and publisher wallets that we will create using BitGo’s APIs" meaning we can't use our own created wallets unless it's created with BitGo's API which is a big turn off for limiting users to use BitGo wallets only (for those who don't know, BitGo is restricted for some countries).

well its just a feature.. nothing will stop you copying and pasting the bitcoin address from the page itself into your own client rather then within the browser extension/widget

[mixan]

The more applications in the way of bitcoin the better. But I don't think the majority of people using the internet for their daily browsing will have much interest in this as it does do much for them.
If they implemented a faucet like thing for using it, then I can see it appealing to people who don't use bitcoin at the moment. Sort of like an introduction to the bitcoin world with giving you a satoshi per site you surf 

[pawel7777]

I think some of you got a bit wrong picture. Brave will not strip publishers completely from ad revenue, nor will it remove all the ads. Not sure how exactly will that work, but as per arstechnica:

In exchange, Brave will take a 15 percent cut of the ad revenue. Instead of using tracking cookies that follow you around the Internet, Brave will use your local browsing history to target ads.
...
Of the remaining ad revenue, 55 percent will go to the publisher and 15 percent will go to the ad supplier. Curiously, the last 15 percent will be returned to the user, which they can then use to make micropayments to their favourite websites.

Obviously the publishers won't love it, but there's still an incentive for them (and not to block users who use Brave). And if those 15% for users will be converted and distributed in BTC - that's a pretty good news. What Bitcoin economy is lacking the most at the moment imho is not enough users earning BTC in any way. This could be small step ahead.

[criptix]

The more applications in the way of bitcoin the better. But I don't think the majority of people using the internet for their daily browsing will have much interest in this as it does do much for them.
If they implemented a faucet like thing for using it, then I can see it appealing to people who don't use bitcoin at the moment. Sort of like an introduction to the bitcoin world with giving you a satoshi per site you surf 

I think some of you got a bit wrong picture. Brave will not strip publishers completely from ad revenue, nor will it remove all the ads. Not sure how exactly will that work, but as per arstechnica:

In exchange, Brave will take a 15 percent cut of the ad revenue. Instead of using tracking cookies that follow you around the Internet, Brave will use your local browsing history to target ads.
...
Of the remaining ad revenue, 55 percent will go to the publisher and 15 percent will go to the ad supplier. Curiously, the last 15 percent will be returned to the user, which they can then use to make micropayments to their favourite websites.

Obviously the publishers won't love it, but there's still an incentive for them (and not to block users who use Brave). And if those 15% for users will be converted and distributed in BTC - that's a pretty good news. What Bitcoin economy is lacking the most at the moment imho is not enough users earning BTC in any way. This could be small step ahead.

exactly this.

basically it makes every site a possible faucet (i cant remember the last time i saw a website without ads)

[pawel7777]

A little follow up, interview with Brendan Eich by Bitcoin.com

Mozilla’s Co-Founder on His ‘Brave’ New Bitcoin-Powered Browser

https://news.bitcoin.com/mozillas-co-founder-brave-new-bitcoin-powered-browser/

[chek2fire]

I try to install it with no luck and with too many errors.

[Chris!]

This I a great idea. I'm definitely going to keep my eye on this. Thanks for the post!

[tkoham]

I wouldn't bet on the browser's Privacy just yet. The gist is that Brave Inc. doesn't collect information, but the browser definitely does. On a massive scale. They just offload the analytics to the user's computer and reap the benefits while saving on server costs. Worth a discussion here for sure. read the FAQ on their main site if you don't believe me.

This is fantastic news. Always been a fan of the Mozilla people and everyone loves faster.  Most important of course is the acceptance of BTC.

It's just the one mozilla guy that got booted for funding anti-gay lobbies, if I remember correctly.

[mkc]

I like the idea, one more browser is also good. Tired of chrome now, I.E. Sucks, Firefox also show ages. A new browser is always good. Just hope there are new features other than Bitcoin.
Can user get paid to go to various web sites? I think Google should pay us to use chrome, because they are collecting data.

[Rescue Squad]

I downloaded the developer edition and the browser is still in alpha stage very limited functionality. I would like to wait for a beta build with most of the features included to see how it will perform.

[ctlaltdefeat]

There's new project from Brendan Eich (co-founder of Mozilla and creator of the JavaScript) coming soon. It's a browser called 'Brave', which is supposed to be much faster, due to auto-blocking certain type of ads (and replacing them with their own ads).

https://www.brave.com/index.html

What's interesting, they do intend to implement integrated BTC payments, in partnership with BitGo. From FAQ:

8. How do you use Bitcoin (BTC)?


We’re still developing the system, now entirely in the open source on github.com, but at this point we know we will use BTC only for permissionless payment delivery to user and publisher wallets that we will create using BitGo’s APIs. We hope to keep funds in BTC only in monthly payment buffers, to reduce effects of volatility. We intend to let expert users “bring their own BTC” to self-fund their wallets and auto-micropay for as much of their browsing as they like.

I doubt whether they'll manage to capture large share of the market, but that still sounds like pretty big news.


Some related press coverage:
http://arstechnica.com/business/2016/01/mozilla-co-founder-unveils-brave-a-web-browser-that-blocks-ads-by-default/
http://www.cnet.com/news/is-the-ad-blocking-brave-browser-too-good-to-be-true/
http://www.pcworld.com/article/3025314/browsers/former-mozilla-ceo-reveals-brave-a-browser-that-speeds-up-the-web-by-blocking-all-ads.html
http://venturebeat.com/2016/01/20/brave-browser/

thanks for sharing,bookmarked one of this site,i wonder about this new browser,if that browser blocked ads and replace that ads with their ads,what benefit for us?it still unblock ads,because i hate ads who came like pop up windows.

[RealPhotoshoper]

There's new project from Brendan Eich (co-founder of Mozilla and creator of the JavaScript) coming soon. It's a browser called 'Brave', which is supposed to be much faster, due to auto-blocking certain type of ads (and replacing them with their own ads).

https://www.brave.com/index.html

What's interesting, they do intend to implement integrated BTC payments, in partnership with BitGo. From FAQ:

8. How do you use Bitcoin (BTC)?


We’re still developing the system, now entirely in the open source on github.com, but at this point we know we will use BTC only for permissionless payment delivery to user and publisher wallets that we will create using BitGo’s APIs. We hope to keep funds in BTC only in monthly payment buffers, to reduce effects of volatility. We intend to let expert users “bring their own BTC” to self-fund their wallets and auto-micropay for as much of their browsing as they like.

I doubt whether they'll manage to capture large share of the market, but that still sounds like pretty big news.


Some related press coverage:
http://arstechnica.com/business/2016/01/mozilla-co-founder-unveils-brave-a-web-browser-that-blocks-ads-by-default/
http://www.cnet.com/news/is-the-ad-blocking-brave-browser-too-good-to-be-true/
http://www.pcworld.com/article/3025314/browsers/former-mozilla-ceo-reveals-brave-a-browser-that-speeds-up-the-web-by-blocking-all-ads.html
http://venturebeat.com/2016/01/20/brave-browser/

i've been ope that official Brave website,but i dont found any clarification that this browser intergrated Bitcoin micropayment,or maybe i dont see it?can anyone tell me how its works (micropayment)?

[BTCBinary]

I've downloaded it and am using it both on my laptop and my smartphone. Finally got rid of those pesky commercials and shitty banners.
It has worked out fine to me so far.

[offlinedragon]

If it's secure then this would be great, a browser specialized for bitcoin! it's chrome based, Right?

[pooya87]

wow, this is very interesting. especially if it is anything like Mozilla FireFox (or any of its similar projects) that would be awesome.
and since it is also Open Source i am sure it is going to be a very good browser and will become popular among crypto users very fast.

[DimensionZ]

I think the Brave browser will be banned on almost all the nigh-traffic websites that rely heavily on showing paid ads for revenue just like they deal with the Adblock at the moment. At least with Brave we will be getting paid to watch someone else's ads which is not a deal breaker for me.