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December 28, 2012, 11:28:09 PM
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User sellbitcoins https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=71023 sells 20 BTC for US$ 286,00 via Paypal. I paid and he didn't transfer my Bitcoins since yesterday. His email is j.bird.btc@live.com and hist Paypal name is Jeffrey Carlstrom. Probably a fake name. I did the operation without much care because I was in a hurry yesterday, to make an arbitrage. I did it later, with a friend in Facebook. But I lost this 20 BTC or $286 anyway.

His last message was:

"I'm so  sorry I fell asleep! What's your btc address again?"

I sent him again, despite of the fact I had sent a lot of times. Anyone knows how is the easiest manner to cancel this purchase in Paypal? I'm afraid to say I was buying Bitcoins.

Please, anyone help me?  Huh What should I do now?

Thanks so much.
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December 28, 2012, 11:35:01 PM
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The Epiks Scammer is becoming quite notorious.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=119472.msg1286121#msg1286121

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=121031.msg1303805#msg1303805

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December 28, 2012, 11:37:23 PM
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Is he "epiks"?
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December 28, 2012, 11:38:27 PM
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He is using the same paypal account so yes it probably it.  Can you post any PM's or email you exchanged with him or transaction information, please.
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December 28, 2012, 11:41:42 PM
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Weird considering he was in a very big rush to buy bitcoin from me today.  Roll Eyes

My instinct said no so I turned him down, listen to your instinct.

"It is a voice that can tell us, who is friend and who is foe. Which ones to hold at arms length, and which ones to keep close. But too often we become distracted by fear, doubt, our own stubborn hopes. We refuse to listen."

Sorry mate.

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December 28, 2012, 11:42:05 PM
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Is it possible to revert the operation? Everybody say Paypal is a big risk to seller because is easy to revert. Is so that easy really? How can I do that?
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December 28, 2012, 11:43:40 PM
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File a dispute and see what happens. If it was "gifted"...well......

When the subject of buying BTC with Paypal comes up, I often remember this: 

Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

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December 28, 2012, 11:48:03 PM
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Is it possible to revert the operation? Everybody say Paypal is a big risk to seller because is easy to revert. Is so that easy really? How can I do that?

Call paypal customer service, and explain the situation.

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December 28, 2012, 11:51:31 PM
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No. Not gifted. I'll try to make a dispute. Thanks for the tip.

All our private messages:

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I'll sell 20btc for that price . What's your PayPal?

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Request sent. Please don't scam and do a charge back or anything!
What's your btc address?

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I'm so  sorry I fell asleep! What's your btc address again?


Some messages I sent him by email (I did not save my messages on forum output, my mistake):

(27/Dec)
Hi! I just sent to you. Did you receive?
Thank you very much!

(today)
Hi Bird! Please, send me the Bitcoins. I need it right now.
Thank you so much



Paypal stuffs:


Detalhes da transação   



      
Pagamento enviado (ID exclusivo da transação 7NA337372V964282R)

Transação original
 Data    Tipo    Status    Detalhes    Valor:
 27 DEZ 2012   Pagamento Para Jeffrey Carlstrom    Concluído    ...   -$286,00 USD

Transações relacionadas
 Data    Tipo    Status    Detalhes    Valor:
 27 DEZ 2012   Cobrança de cartão de crédito    ConcluídoSua transferência do seu cartão de crédito para a sua conta do PayPal foi concluída.Sua transferência do seu cartão de crédito para a sua conta do PayPal foi concluída.    Detalhes   R$607,94
 27 DEZ 2012   Conversão de moeda    Concluído    Detalhes   -R$607,94
 27 DEZ 2012   Conversão de moeda    Concluído    Detalhes   $286,00 USD

Enviado para:   
Jeffrey Carlstrom (O destinatário deste pagamento está Verificada)
E-mail:   
j.bird.btc@live.com
Valor total:   
-$286,00 USD (igual a -R$607,94)
Valor da tarifa:   
$0,00 USD
Valor líquido:   
-$286,00 USD

Conversão de:   
-R$607,94
Conversão para:   
$286,00 USD
Taxa de câmbio:   
1 Real = 0,470447 Dólares americanos
Em caso de câmbio internacional ou conversão de moeda ser necessário para a conclusão de alguma transação; isto será feito pelo PayPal através de uma instituição financeira independente.

Data:   
27 DEZ 2012
Hora:   
11:48:51 BRST
Status:   
Concluído

Assunto:   
Bit
Observação:   
Please send to 1LYd3qqT51churPkhhEtvxwjavWAYs6UJ
Tipo de fundos:   
Cartão de crédito
Fonte de recursos:   
R$607,94 - Visa Cartão de Crédito XXXX-XXXX-XXXX-5477
Esta transação será exibida em sua fatura como "PAYPAL *JBIRDBTC".
Parcelas:   
0

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I sent my address 1LYd3qqT51churPkhhEtvxwjavWAYs6UJ in the message above, in paypal transaction. I sent again by email and forum too.


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December 29, 2012, 12:04:36 AM
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Why moderators don't mark this guy as scammer? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=71023
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December 29, 2012, 12:55:35 AM
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Theymos gave him the scammer tag.  Let's see where Jeffrey turns up next.
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December 29, 2012, 01:10:22 AM
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Jeffrey Carlstrom
j.bird.btc@live.com
jeff@epikads.com
VERIFIED PREMIER
VS8DYKSKBSUSA

He has also used this email account:
Jake McIntyre ccphazed@gmail.com

This is an other email:
dsvirus@gmail.com

He may also be know as
James Woody (Everette, WA).

This is an inactive Wireless number he has used in the past.
206.498.8023


The list below contains all domains related to the email address dsvirus@gmail.com.
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The email dsvirus@gmail.com is related to these domains :

1.  backlinksextreme.info
2.  epiks.org
3.  extreme-fans.info
4.  extreme-proxies.info
5.  extremefans.info
6.  gelexia.com
7.  golfnowpromocode.net
8.  howtosetupaminecraftserver.com
9.  proxiesextreme.info
10.  sikko.org
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December 29, 2012, 01:31:59 AM
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here is an interesting bit of info:

Carlstrom, Jeff
dsvirus@gmail.com
1609 england ave
everett, Washington 98203.
United States
425-314-4519.
Technical Contact:
Carlstrom, Jeff dsvirus@gmail.

425-314-4519
This number is registered to a

JESSIE CASTRO

Jessie Castro

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1707 Merrill Creek Pkwy Apt 823
Everett
WA  98203-7111
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December 29, 2012, 01:33:37 AM
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Woow!!  Shocked You guys are amazing. So I was victim... Sad
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December 29, 2012, 01:55:01 AM
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Active Paypal Accounts:

Jeffrey Carlstrom  dsvirus@gmail.com     VERIFIED PREMIER     8M4X32CNKFTBS

Jeffrey Carlstrom  j.bird.btc@live.com     VERIFIED PREMIER      VS8DYKSKBSUSA
Jeffrey Carlstrom  j.cstrom@live.com       VERIFIED PREMIER      VS8DYKSKBSUSA

Jeffrey Carlstrom  ccphazed@gmail.com UNVERIFIED PREMIER  2T22AXAMBZ8UU
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December 30, 2012, 05:54:26 AM
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Active Paypal Accounts:

Jeffrey Carlstrom  dsvirus@gmail.com     VERIFIED PREMIER     8M4X32CNKFTBS

Jeffrey Carlstrom  j.bird.btc@live.com     VERIFIED PREMIER      VS8DYKSKBSUSA
Jeffrey Carlstrom  j.cstrom@live.com       VERIFIED PREMIER      VS8DYKSKBSUSA

Jeffrey Carlstrom  ccphazed@gmail.com UNVERIFIED PREMIER  2T22AXAMBZ8UU

I wouldn't be surprised if said user was using stolen information, such as a SSN to make all these accounts. Why else would he blatantly bastardize his own name? Regardless enough heat on the name should bring some action sooner or later.

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December 30, 2012, 06:54:07 AM
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It is being a big headache to me  Cry

It's not that easy, nor fast, to cancel the Paypal transfer.
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December 30, 2012, 11:05:41 AM
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Active Paypal Accounts:

Jeffrey Carlstrom  dsvirus@gmail.com     VERIFIED PREMIER     8M4X32CNKFTBS

Jeffrey Carlstrom  j.bird.btc@live.com     VERIFIED PREMIER      VS8DYKSKBSUSA
Jeffrey Carlstrom  j.cstrom@live.com       VERIFIED PREMIER      VS8DYKSKBSUSA

Jeffrey Carlstrom  ccphazed@gmail.com UNVERIFIED PREMIER  2T22AXAMBZ8UU

I wouldn't be surprised if said user was using stolen information, such as a SSN to make all these accounts. Why else would he blatantly bastardize his own name? Regardless enough heat on the name should bring some action sooner or later.

That is possible. But I don't believe so in this case. He also had a Wells Fargo bank account which he also used to make legitimate trades before he went rogue and started scamming people. He also contacted me private to tell me his accout was compromised as a excuse to avoid responsibility for the scamming yet he continues to scam and does nothing to clear his name.
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December 31, 2012, 01:03:38 AM
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I'd be afraid to try and scam anyone on these forums with the detectives that post here.

blease resbond -> 1BYJKxpntNn6TZbM5M5CWkEb8vr8vDcBrr
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January 02, 2013, 02:47:49 AM
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I also got scammed by this guy.

I'm hoping PayPal will give me my money back.

Payment was to j.bird.btc@live.com, and I "bought" 6 BFL singles from him for a total of $2900.
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