Bitcoin core value? - miners will switch to Bitcoin Classic

[bargainbin]

Which point is that? That people will be left stranded because it takes a month to download what amounts to a software update? Either your connection is horribly slow, or I'm forced to assume you're just FUDding.

You're joking right? If you think that everyone is in the position to upgrade or is aware of the current situation then we have no reasons to talk about. Here's a small example and I'll leave it at that:

I'm the owner of Lauda Dice, a very good and popular Dice site. Lauda is currently sick and has no idea what's going on in the Bitcoin ecosystem. Hard fork happens before Lauda recovers and leaves his service website broken.

Even deploying soft forks takes time, with hard forks it is much worse.

In teh hospital, incommunicado for a month? And your dice site is on autopilot? It runs itself?
Frankly, sounds like something I should be reading in Scam Accusations, and laughing my ass off.
And no one tells you? Because, presumably, no one uses it?

Let's see... An unatended dice site loses a few days' worth of revenues, or I give up on Bitcoin: A Peer-to-Peer Electronic Cash System...
It's a toughy, I'll grant you that...

jk, not tough at all. Pay more attention to your shitty gambling site. Not my fault you're sick/lazy, this isn't some Nanny State commie kindergarten, where everything stops to let the slowest/weakest catch up. Buck up, Bucko.

[BlindMayorBitcorn]

Lauda Dice

[steeev]

hard forking a change to solve a problem that doesn't exist in a pointless rush on the say so of a corporate lobby when a superior soft forked development that facilitates deeper progress for the project as a whole is imminent simply doesn't compute


here's andreas on segwit (LTB podcast) - first half is blocksize, 2nd half goes deeper

https://soundcloud.com/mindtomatter/ltb-e277-separating-signatures-with-segregated-witness




thinking back, it's been down from gavin's lofty 20MB, to the insidious XT 8MB (to start), now this 2MB 'classic' load of nothing.

driven down to 2MB and digging in - like a pushy salesman's foot in the door...

[BellaBitBit]

the r/btc subreddit bangs on and on like this all day

only about 10k subs on there, compared to about 170k on r/Bitcoin though...

looks like they're doing some overtime here

Can someone explain the difference between the atmosphere at Reddit vs BitcoinTalk.  Are you suggesting that r/Bitcoin is slanted to Classic and Bitcointalk is Core?  There is a process to learning all of this 

[-Tx-Rider]

What is wrong with Bitcoin Core? I am new here so..

[jonald_fyookball]

What is wrong with Bitcoin Core? I am new here so..

currently blocks are limited to 1MB so the network can only handle 3-7 transactions per second.

[MicroGuy]

What is wrong with Bitcoin Core? I am new here so..

They are owned by Blockstream™.

i wish gavin would not have lobbied exchanges or miners first. as that is a sign to force it before consensus.. though everyone seems to want 2mb.. and dont want to wait a year for blockstream to move their asses.. there should atleast be a push to get user adoption of the 2mb first.. before forcing it definetly not delaying user adoption either

Gavin works for Coinbase. So, it's a PAID lobby. Coinbase works for investors(we know who they are). The investors wants to recover the investments asap. How can they do that? By having more control over BTC.

Let's not forget that the Coinbase's investors are the same as the Bitstamp investors.

This is the truth whether anyone wants to believe it or not. Gavin is a paid puppet that works for the puppet masters (we know who they are) writing the paychecks.

[BlindMayorBitcorn]

What is wrong with Bitcoin Core? I am new here so..

bahhh

Facts for N00bs: No one is owned by anyone. Blockstream was founded by Greg and Adam. Gavin doesn't work for Coinbase but at MIT. Microguy has a goat farm.

[jonald_fyookball]

What is wrong with Bitcoin Core? I am new here so..

bahhh

Facts for N00bs: No one is owned by anyone. Blockstream was founded by Greg and Adam. Gavin doesn't work for Coinbase but at MIT. Microguy has a goat farm.

Gavin was hired as an adviser to Coinbase in 2013.  When did that change?

[funkenstein]

Your core coins are now being converted to cosbycoins.   1....    2....     

[BlindMayorBitcorn]

What is wrong with Bitcoin Core? I am new here so..

bahhh

Facts for N00bs: No one is owned by anyone. Blockstream was founded by Greg and Adam. Gavin doesn't work for Coinbase but at MIT. Microguy has a goat farm.

Gavin was hired as an adviser to Coinbase in 2013.  When did that change?

I stand slightly corrected.

[gentlemand]

the r/btc subreddit bangs on and on like this all day

only about 10k subs on there, compared to about 170k on r/Bitcoin though...

looks like they're doing some overtime here

Can someone explain the difference between the atmosphere at Reddit vs BitcoinTalk.  Are you suggesting that r/Bitcoin is slanted to Classic and Bitcointalk is Core?  There is a process to learning all of this  

No. Both are run by Theymos who is a core fan. For some reason much more open discussion is permitted here than on reddit. Dunno why.

Anyone can start a new sub on reddit so more toys are thrown out of prams there.

[mayax]

What is wrong with Bitcoin Core? I am new here so..

bahhh

Facts for N00bs: No one is owned by anyone. Blockstream was founded by Greg and Adam. Gavin doesn't work for Coinbase but at MIT. Microguy has a goat farm.

Gavin was hired as an adviser to Coinbase in 2013.  When did that change?

It was not changed. It's still paid. It's not something bad to be paid and to earn a lot of money. It's OK but you cannot say after that , you are neutral

[BlindMayorBitcorn]

But Microguy's goats tell him what to say. True story.




J/k Microguy. Keep it real home-slice.

[AliceWonderMiscreations]

Actual BTC are not in risk of dissappearing as they can fit in 2 MB blocks. Users are in a comfortable place IMO as they can choose whatever they like once it is developed, without risking their coins beforehand.

If the bitcoin classic come out in march before Core, and most people use that one. bitcoin will survive on that chain. For the people with their money in their own wallet, they will not lose money.

If bitcoin classic comes out in March, people will only switch to it if they have a reason.

Not that many do. I don't. And I actually really like Gavin.

[MicroGuy]

I stand corrected. It does look like the alert-key holding, coinbase loving, Satoshi runneroffer, XT/Classic traitoring, Gigibyte-block-making 'developer' is winning widespread praise from his peers for his outstanding loyalty, honesty, and innovative coding genius!!

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https://twitter.com/petertoddbtc/status/691075744278024192





https://twitter.com/saifedean/status/691034309780729856





https://twitter.com/DecentOS/status/691070160132816897





https://twitter.com/BitcoinErrorLog/status/691069235389448192





https://twitter.com/davoutplantaire/status/690810640517193728




https://twitter.com/Rolmopz/status/690863448612298752


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These are honestly like the first few tweets I found. Got tried of copying and pasting.  

[jonald_fyookball]

you're just cherry picking negativity.

For a more meaningful discussion involving both Gavin and Peter...

https://np.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/426nee/ambitious_protocol_limits/

[MicroGuy]

you're just cherry picking negativity.

For a more meaningful discussion involving both Gavin and Peter...

https://np.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/426nee/ambitious_protocol_limits/

That's a hell of a lot of cherries! 

[jonald_fyookball]

you're just cherry picking negativity.

For a more meaningful discussion involving both Gavin and Peter...

https://np.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/426nee/ambitious_protocol_limits/

That's a hell of a lot of cherries! 

Except for Peter Todd, who are these other clowns?

[MicroGuy]

you're just cherry picking negativity.

For a more meaningful discussion involving both Gavin and Peter...

https://np.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/426nee/ambitious_protocol_limits/

That's a hell of a lot of cherries!  

Except for Peter Todd, who are these other clowns?

Clowns?

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