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January 24, 2016, 12:48:22 AM Last edit: January 25, 2016, 07:51:24 PM by PonziBuddy |
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Let me explain how to properly invest in a ponzi. You put in say 50$.. you get back 100$. Now just put back 50$ again... this money is your profit, if it wasnt for the doubler your profit from it would not exist and the doubler would not exist if people werent putting money into it constantly, so you put in 50$ again and it pays out again. So you get paid, put another 50$ in... but this time, the doubler stops working and you lose your money. So what have you lost? You have lost nothing, that was the profit from the same doubler that screwed you. Look at it like you are playing with poker chips, that money would not exist if it wasnt for the bitcoin doubler. The fact that you can lose your money at anytime, that is the gamble. If you cant take it dont play these ponzi games... this is not jesus feeding thousands of people with a few fish and some bread. You lost and walked away with 50$ profit in the end. Now you just have to find another 'reliable' doubler. If the admin is smart these sites can work for months but it will collapse eventually and you should expect it to.
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January 24, 2016, 12:50:51 AM |
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Well, ive made thousands in the past few years with very little risk on the money i actually work hard for with this investment strategy and so have tons of people, but if you prefer dice more power to you. I dont have fear or worry when i know ive already made 100s of $$ from the ponzi im reinvesting in... i think many people just dont like the word 'ponzi' and are afraid of it. An honest ponzi is one that doesnt deny its a ponzi and pays out for at least a few months.
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January 24, 2016, 01:04:33 AM |
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You're basically saying invest with money & reinvest with profit, most people already do that. If they don't pay out the first time it's a net loss of -initial_investment_amount but if they pay out once and don't pay the next time you deposit, it's a net loss of $0 because you still have your initial amount. I have bad luck with ponzis, deposited for the first time in a paying one, and I lost 0.2 Bitcoin. Never again.
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January 24, 2016, 01:13:34 AM |
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Thats called investment my friend. Just the other week i bought bitcoin for 430$ a coin... next day it dropped to under 380$ a coin... did i cry? No, i went right on my way and continued my investments. You have to have your betting system properly in place. You have to have profits ready to handle the risks. You gotta make sure you do your homework and that doubler has been doing good for a few weeks. Just like investing in the stock market, there is a risk you lose your money on the first investment.
What i have said in this thread is not as obvious as you think to so many investors here...
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January 24, 2016, 02:59:05 AM |
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What i have said in this thread is not as obvious as you think to so many investors here...
Well you are right on that one. It seems as if most newbies start using the forum in this investor-based thread. Atleast I did start here :p So many rules but yea, no matter how obvious they are, not everybody knows them.
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January 24, 2016, 05:22:32 AM |
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This method does not work because at times some ponzi dont pay out at all, investment have to do with personal research, if you are sure the payment will still come why not invest double?
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January 24, 2016, 05:27:51 AM |
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This method does not work because at times some ponzi dont pay out at all, investment have to do with personal research, if you are sure the payment will still come why not invest double?
You can never be sure if they are going to pay. They might pay for 6 months, and then somehow stop paying right after you deposit. It happens, because these are ponzis & will ALWAYS stop paying. Just look at btcsprout & the amount that the guy ran with all because he had a bunch of fancy looking reports & paid out for 2-3 weeks.
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January 24, 2016, 06:15:00 AM |
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This method does not work because at times some ponzi dont pay out at all, investment have to do with personal research, if you are sure the payment will still come why not invest double?
You can never be sure if they are going to pay. They might pay for 6 months, and then somehow stop paying right after you deposit. It happens, because these are ponzis & will ALWAYS stop paying. Just look at btcsprout & the amount that the guy ran with all because he had a bunch of fancy looking reports & paid out for 2-3 weeks. That is true because it is all a blind investment but some people might still making profit with btcsprout, i often prefer martingale style but this time invest double when i receive payout. It is my own style.
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January 24, 2016, 06:19:08 AM |
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This method does not work because at times some ponzi dont pay out at all, investment have to do with personal research, if you are sure the payment will still come why not invest double?
You can never be sure if they are going to pay. They might pay for 6 months, and then somehow stop paying right after you deposit. It happens, because these are ponzis & will ALWAYS stop paying. Just look at btcsprout & the amount that the guy ran with all because he had a bunch of fancy looking reports & paid out for 2-3 weeks. That is true because it is all a blind investment but some people might still making profit with btcsprout, i often prefer martingale style but this time invest double when i receive payout. It is my own style. yes, but then you would already need 2 cycles completed, and as for the last few weeks, not many hyip's or ponzis last for more then a 2 cycles :p
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January 24, 2016, 06:25:03 AM |
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are you sure this method will be worked?if like that why not keep double your money at that time? ponzi will be ponzi...
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January 25, 2016, 07:49:24 PM |
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It's time for a pyramid revolution like what happened when people invented multi signature transactions to solve this exact issue people had with bitcoin markets years ago. This scamming shit was reaking havok with buyers before multi signature transactions.
The classic pyramid scheme is an archaic system for a brand new currency and when people actually start to work together to fix it, to code a new, better bitcoin doubler script.. you could call the 'method' patched if you understand what I am saying.
We need a doubler 2.0
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January 25, 2016, 07:59:12 PM |
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I can't believe this is even a thread!
You don't get anything do you?
More people lose than gain! The only winner is the ponzi owner. Big deal if you have made some money. You maybe of a small percent
This crap destroys crypto's name And before anyone spouts off about this can happen with any form of currency I know! We are here for crypto
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January 25, 2016, 08:01:06 PM |
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Dude.... don't make me bust out the big letters because I'm getting pissed.
It is YOU that doesn't get it. READ what I am saying.
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January 25, 2016, 08:12:39 PM |
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Dude.... don't make me bust out the big letters because I'm getting pissed.
It is YOU that doesn't get it. READ what I am saying.
OHK i had read it whole please i would like to add up my statement and please answer to me with valid answer Story starts here:- Suppose there is a bitcoindoubler.xyz site giving double in 48 hours i.e 2days So suppose if i invest say 50$ , my return would be 100$ . (You stated up in the main thread assuming that bitcoin doubler wouldnt scam at first) But if it scam me in the first round then ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) Its a loss of 50$ for me. You never know when a bitcoin ponzi will scam. They may stop early or may take up long time.But we cant risk our BTC assuming that a specific ponzi will work for a long time. And also you are not only one to play with ponzis .There are others also and they had lost their BTC too. Insted i would like to ask you to strike back the main post .Also i would like to point out a thing that : YOU SOMEHOW IS PROMOTING PONZI THAT IS NOT ACCEPTABLE HERE
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January 25, 2016, 08:22:02 PM |
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I have been investing in ponzis since bitcoin was less than a dollar. Over 5 years. Never once have I ran one. Would you like me to post my transactions of the money that I recently earned? Over 200$ in profit?.. tell me, will actual proof shut you up or will you keep on going?
I can invest this 200$ wherever the hell i want. It was free money.. I put in the risk, but I was successful and it is free money. So if I take half of this money and invest in another ponzi and lose that was my poor judgement in picking a shitty ponzi.. That doesn't mean every single one won't pay out just some of them. Its a different form of gambling but if you are smart you can make thousands from it without risking anything but the profit your earned from the ponzi in the first place
We have a language barrier here. Many of you guys Do not get how to actually make money from a ponzi. I have been doing this since before you knew what a bitcoin was. This was not my first account on this site.
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January 25, 2016, 08:56:51 PM |
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I have been investing in ponzis since bitcoin was less than a dollar. Over 5 years. Never once have I ran one. Would you like me to post my transactions of the money that I recently earned? Over 200$ in profit?.. tell me, will actual proof shut you up or will you keep on going?
I can invest this 200$ wherever the hell i want. It was free money.. I put in the risk, but I was successful and it is free money. So if I take half of this money and invest in another ponzi and lose that was my poor judgement in picking a shitty ponzi.. That doesn't mean every single one won't pay out just some of them. Its a different form of gambling but if you are smart you can make thousands from it without risking anything but the profit your earned from the ponzi in the first place
We have a language barrier here. Many of you guys Do not get how to actually make money from a ponzi. I have been doing this since before you knew what a bitcoin was. This was not my first account on this site.
Sorry you maybe a good investor in ponzi.But you are somehow promoting ponzi which is not acceptable .You are not promoting a specific ponzi but it is still not acceptable because a PONZI is a PONZI.No matter what returns they give they are still there started up only for eating up bitcoins. Rest you can make it up on your own whether you want to keep it going or not..Am not going to discuss with you anymore
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@Ponzibuddy If you are playing that long why didn't you mention they should spread the risk? I see it similar in structure though. Play a Ponzi (I hate the word investment in these games) but preferably spread your initial (play/spending money) over a month in several projects. Always be skeptical and lower your expectations. Rule 1 get Your initial back ASAP, you might want to take an extra cut of 10 to 20%, use the rest for new plays or rounds. Put your initial in a different wallet orso, it shouldn't be accessible easy when playing. The extra step to access them gives you the possibility to reflect once more if you have the BTCBTC in your eyes. ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) research new HYIPs/Ponzi's and keep researching, this forum is not the only place to find them. Try different ones. I mean different ones in originality, scripts, looks etc. With the new capital (the former profits or as some would call it the smaller new initial, matter of opinion) try out several projects don't focus on one. They always collapse and rarely all together at the same time. Don't invest because you want to spend it all that day. Patience is virtue. A small payment in an uncertain project gives either a small loss or a small profit. Either way you got it covered by saving your initial plus an extra cut. ALWAYS I repeat ALWAYS keep a cut of the new profits to cover future losses or a happy spending spree and take them out of the pile of coins you use for these games. Accept losses. Never try to make up your losses with bigger investments, it is a trap I saw too many people fall in. If you lost all of your new profits your balance would still be positive because of withholding the extra cut. So once in a while just take your profits, cash them out and do something fun with it. It ain't profit if you didn't enjoy spending it. Being virtual rich doesn't give you the memories you would call life. I've been playing Ponzi's and HYIPs way before internet was regular and what crypto has done for us players is that we don't need to do shit for it. Just throw some coin in it and wait. Although it would certainly help to make your profits a certainty, there is no need to attract new investors like we needed to do 2 or 3 decades ago. Also the minimum deposits are low nowadays. No need to get a second mortgage to get in. Just don't get blinded by riches you might get, focus in the coin you spend on your own wellbeing (whatever that might be for you)
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Well, ive made thousands in the past few years with very little risk on the money i actually work hard for with this investment strategy and so have tons of people, but if you prefer dice more power to you. I dont have fear or worry when i know ive already made 100s of $$ from the ponzi im reinvesting in... i think many people just dont like the word 'ponzi' and are afraid of it. An honest ponzi is one that doesnt deny its a ponzi and pays out for at least a few months.
Blockchain evidence or it didn't happen. You are so full of shit, brown matter is squirting out of your ears. It smells and I'm sick of it. Even if you made "thousands" (of what, DOGE?), you say it was with little risk, which is a big fat LIE.
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Well, ive made thousands in the past few years with very little risk on the money i actually work hard for with this investment strategy and so have tons of people, but if you prefer dice more power to you. I dont have fear or worry when i know ive already made 100s of $$ from the ponzi im reinvesting in... i think many people just dont like the word 'ponzi' and are afraid of it. An honest ponzi is one that doesnt deny its a ponzi and pays out for at least a few months.
Blockchain evidence or it didn't happen. You are so full of shit, brown matter is squirting out of your ears. It smells and I'm sick of it. Even if you made "thousands" (of what, DOGE?), you say it was with little risk, which is a big fat LIE. Oh yeah i skipped that part .Thanks @ThePharmacist for pointing that out
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