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January 24, 2016, 01:06:30 AM
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What are your opinions on this? Will the block size problem be resolved or will the halving happen first?
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January 24, 2016, 01:10:52 AM
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What are your opinions on this? Will the block size problem be resolved or will the halving happen first?

If history is any indication, then the halving will first commence.
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January 24, 2016, 01:13:56 AM
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I think the halving will happen before the block size thing gets resolved. The block size arguments have dragged on for month after month, and there are so many stake holders involved that reaching consensus could drag on for another year. It could be quickly resolved if somebody devises a coding solution that's so brilliant everyone immediately accepts it, but I don't think anyone will.
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January 24, 2016, 01:50:39 AM
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An interesting question. The halving is one thing that does seem to be agreed upon so that's likely to be first. I'd be happier and feel more positive if it was vice versa but that's life.
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January 24, 2016, 02:01:22 AM
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Of course halving will hit us first. Seeing how majority of miners (Chinese side) already decided to stick with standard bitcoin core and don't upgrade anything I see no way how we can see bigger blocks anytime soon.


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January 24, 2016, 02:13:40 AM
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The halving will probably come first, but that doesn't mean we won't have a capacity increase. SegWit is supposed to come out in April, which is two months before the halving. SegWit will bring with it some capacity increase.
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January 24, 2016, 02:24:53 AM
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Halving first, then blocksize solution. At this point it seems to be that a solution for blocksize will not be found until it really becomes a problem, sadly. Hope that is the other way around.

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January 24, 2016, 02:51:18 AM
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We need "consensus" for the block size debate to be resolved. I wouldn't put my money on that happening any time soon.
So I would go for halving.


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January 24, 2016, 07:24:00 AM
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I think we will get first the halving and then the block size adjustment will follow. I hope these events will cause the price to increase Smiley

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January 24, 2016, 07:55:54 AM
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the roadmap is telling me that the segwit thign will be implemented in april, so i say the block size, unless i'm missing something

if you mean the normal increase to 2mb, this is not going to happen in any case already
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the halving sounds like a Stephen King novel

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Block size increase will happen after the halving. Because the the debate is ongoing for many months and there is no quick solution at the moment. But halving is planned on the timetable.

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with what i see from bitcoin developers until now, i say block size debate is not going to be solved this easily and it will take a very long time. because of that i vote block halving to be first.

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What are your opinions on this? Will the block size problem be resolved or will the halving happen first?

I din't think that the problem of block size will be resolved so easy. The main core developer (Gavin Andresen) it is supporter of "another" bitcoin. With him even another charismatic developer as Jeff Garzik. The others remaining at bitcoincore are unknown people and with less contributes in the actual bitcoin (as it is actually). I don't see any point in which these two groups can be together. Every each of those has already its bitcoin and is working for it. So, according to me, not only before halving but even to much time after halving there it will not be a solution of this problem. Being not a technician (devs or programmer) cannot be able to tell if this division (if can be successful both variants of bitcoin) could affect the halving but normally not. It would be the the halving of the bitcoin of today and not of the bitcoin classic. Anyhow if both are bitcoin and have the same code and development (except the block size) can (or must) be even the halving of the other one. Anyhow this is not something that is much important for this thread so have no meaning to be analyzed more.
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I din't think that the problem of block size will be resolved so easy. The main core developer (Gavin Andresen) it is supporter of "another" bitcoin. With him even another charismatic developer as Jeff Garzik. The others remaining at bitcoincore are unknown people and with less contributes in the actual bitcoin (as it is actually). I don't see any point in which these two groups can be together.
This is just nonsense. Gavin is far from being 'main core' developer. The group that is working on Bitcoin Core is much bigger and more skilled than the one working for Bitcoin Classic.

with what i see from bitcoin developers until now, i say block size debate is not going to be solved this easily and it will take a very long time. because of that i vote block halving to be first.
Even if they make a decision right now, rushing to deploy it is dangerous. Hard forks need time.

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January 28, 2016, 10:42:11 AM
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What I hope : 1 - Block size issue getting solved to end the nonsense drama. 2 - Block halving.

What I think will happen : 1 - Block halving. 2 - Block size issue being solved.

If the block size issue is getting solved first, then we can have a real HARD pump when we go towards the block halving.
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January 28, 2016, 10:52:48 AM
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Halving first, then blocksize solution. At this point it seems to be that a solution for blocksize will not be found until it really becomes a problem, sadly. Hope that is the other way around.


There is too much drag on the block size increase. But if the community cannot find a solution, the bitcoin will hardfork.
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I din't think that the problem of block size will be resolved so easy. The main core developer (Gavin Andresen) it is supporter of "another" bitcoin. With him even another charismatic developer as Jeff Garzik. The others remaining at bitcoincore are unknown people and with less contributes in the actual bitcoin (as it is actually). I don't see any point in which these two groups can be together.
This is just nonsense. Gavin is far from being 'main core' developer. The group that is working on Bitcoin Core is much bigger and more skilled than the one working for Bitcoin Classic.


For that I can understand it is the second one contributor on the development of the Bitcoin Core if it is taken as a point of reference this website:  

https://bitcoin.org/en/development

And in which I found the below data:



Anyhow, as I told in my post I am not an expert in such field and here the numbers cannot have that importance given or taken by me. But for sure I know another fact which cannot be never bypassed by no one. Gavin Andresen was the only person to whom Satoshi gave the codes of bitcoin and if so must be the most professionally able and prepared person in this field according to the inventor of bitcoin. Otherwise have no sense that was the chosen and the only One who has the trust from Satoshi.
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For that I can understand it is the second one contributor on the development of the Bitcoin Core if it is taken as a point of reference this website:  
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This is due to his contributions in the past, the amount of commits that he makes have been heavily reduced. His profile shows:
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Gavin Andresen was the only person to whom Satoshi gave the codes of bitcoin and if so must be the most professionally able and prepared person in this field according to the inventor of bitcoin. Otherwise have no sense that was the chosen and the only One who has the trust from Satoshi.
This is because he seemed to be the best candidate at that time. This has turned out wrong and is possibly one of the reasons why Satoshi went missing (the visit to the CIA).

What I think will happen : 1 - Block halving. 2 - Block size issue being solved.
It doesn't get solved. It will be a kick down the road if we focus on the 'block size' and don't run off-chain solutions.

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I din't think that the problem of block size will be resolved so easy. The main core developer (Gavin Andresen) it is supporter of "another" bitcoin. With him even another charismatic developer as Jeff Garzik. The others remaining at bitcoincore are unknown people and with less contributes in the actual bitcoin (as it is actually). I don't see any point in which these two groups can be together.
This is just nonsense. Gavin is far from being 'main core' developer. The group that is working on Bitcoin Core is much bigger and more skilled than the one working for Bitcoin Classic.


For that I can understand it is the second one contributor on the development of the Bitcoin Core if it is taken as a point of reference this website:  

https://bitcoin.org/en/development

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and wladimir seems the first and he is still working on core, so i'm with this guy than anyone else on the team there
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