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January 25, 2016, 07:26:45 PM |
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Why is the most part of the community ignoring the fundamental problems bitcoin has?
I'm just flabbergasted every time I see people either ignore the problems, claim they are no problem at all, or say 'oh it eill be fixed when it becomes a problem.'.
I can't believe we are letting such a wonderful project die slowly without even attempting to fix what went wrong.
Many of the problems Satoshi planned to have fixed years ago, every day it will become harder to fix it as the network grows, until it doesn't and dies.
My question is... why?
Are too many of you invested in Altcoins that it benefits you to kill bitcoin? Are the developers compromised by banks or government or do they have a different agenda?
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Amph
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January 25, 2016, 07:30:21 PM |
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you're talking about scalability? there is a plan to have a boost on that around april, just wait segwit will put us in the "fresh air zone", there are also other issue which will be fixed, like malleability, so merchants hopefully will begin to accept without worry too much, zero conf tx... and anyway we can have scalability reaching the volume of visa, without the stupid limit they are advocating about the bandwidth, cpu and storage https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Scalability |
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January 25, 2016, 08:26:01 PM |
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i wanted to reply: replace "problems" with "me" but then realized a contradiction, so i dedcided not to write at all.
on the other hand, i cannot let you win.
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watashi-kokoto
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January 25, 2016, 08:29:55 PM |
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I would argue that scalability is not a problem at all
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onlinedragon
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January 25, 2016, 08:30:04 PM |
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Not all people are ignoring and it's normal that not all people know the in and outs. Some just enjoy the possibilities of Bitcoin and let other people do the work were they supposed to be good in.
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hee-ho.
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January 25, 2016, 08:31:37 PM
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what problems are you talking about? can't answer it for sure without knowing it.
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The Sceptical Chymist
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January 25, 2016, 08:40:56 PM |
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i wanted to reply: replace "problems" with "me" but then realized a contradiction, so i dedcided not to write at all.
on the other hand, i cannot let you win.
I LOL'ed at this; you are quite correct. My technical understanding of bitcoin is not that great. I hear words to the effect that there is a problem with the block size and something about a hard fork which will produce two bitcoin variants. What else are we looking at as far as this goes--and I mean problems that could actually kill bitcoin. I do read what's on this forum quite a bit but I think I'm a bit dense when it comes to the mechanics of bitcoin. But kwukduck, you're just a drama queen. |
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K128kevin2
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January 26, 2016, 03:01:43 AM |
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Why is the most part of the community ignoring the fundamental problems bitcoin has?
I'm just flabbergasted every time I see people either ignore the problems, claim they are no problem at all, or say 'oh it eill be fixed when it becomes a problem.'.
I can't believe we are letting such a wonderful project die slowly without even attempting to fix what went wrong.
Many of the problems Satoshi planned to have fixed years ago, every day it will become harder to fix it as the network grows, until it doesn't and dies.
My question is... why?
Are too many of you invested in Altcoins that it benefits you to kill bitcoin? Are the developers compromised by banks or government or do they have a different agenda?
Can you please list some of the problems you are referring to? |
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futureofbitcoin
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January 26, 2016, 03:02:26 AM |
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I used to think that kwukduck is a troll, because everyone said so. But more and more, I'm beginning to understand how he came to be. The amount of stupidity in this forum really is absolutely toxic. If all bitcoiners were like that, there is no hope for bitcoin to succeed. Fortunately, there are intelligent people who don't bother to waste their time in this toxic environment and actually get real work done (I'm not one of them  ). All I can say is, I hope that those people can eventually fix most of the problems and allow bitcoin to succeed. Certainly I don't have the knowledge/power to do so. And fortunately, neither do any of the idiots writing on this forum. |
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January 26, 2016, 03:09:10 AM |
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Nothing has been done yet because the "problems" are not really big enough problems to be worthy of the risk of what could happen if rash decisions are made in haste and it gets forked up..
There is plenty of time to think and do this right the first time, the biggest threat to bitcoin would be trying to do this in a hurry and messing it all up IMO..
I think..
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bitbaby
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January 26, 2016, 03:13:27 AM |
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Everything takes time, let the Core engineers worry about this and work out a solution which doesn't require a hard fork. The more you guys push the hard fork, the more it feels like there are personal gains behind this whole agenda.
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futureofbitcoin
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January 26, 2016, 03:16:06 AM |
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Nothing has been done yet because the "problems" are not really big enough problems to be worthy of the risk of what could happen if rash decisions are made in haste and it gets forked up..
There is plenty of time to think and do this right the first time, the biggest threat to bitcoin would be trying to do this in a hurry and messing it all up IMO..
I think..
The actual "problem" of the blocksize is, I think, is not a big deal. What is a problem, is the thinking behind the people on either side. Extremely toxic. So many bitcoiners are delusional. Some are delusional, dreaming that it'll take over the world and kill fiat. Others are ignorant, thinking that an increase of 2x the current price is the best bitcoin can hope for, because there's no way you can get rich just by holding something, right? Then there are the delusional libertarians who think that their ideals are the way, and that everyone will eventually come to realize how right they are. HA! They think that normal people will care about "decentralization", "not backed by government", etc. They think that there's no way a government/bank coin can compete against bitcoin, because it's centralized. They are not aware, or they don't admit to there being many threats to bitcoin's survival, because they're so delusional to their ideals. |
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oblomov
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January 26, 2016, 03:33:14 AM |
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Bull markets climb a wall of worry, as the saying goes on Wall Street.
There will always be problems with an investment, and the existence of the problems is why the asset does not trade at its full potential value.
In other words, the BTC price reflects the potential value of BTC adjusting for the risks that you mention, and other risks.
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January 26, 2016, 03:42:10 AM |
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Nobody is ignoring problems. There are just differences in the methods of fixing the problems. Over time, this will be solved. You just have to be patient.  |
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maokoto
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January 26, 2016, 04:14:45 AM |
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As I see it, problems are potential/future problems. As far as I am concerned, Bitcoin continues to work just as is supposed to do. I do transfer, buy, and sell almost everyday with no problem.
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spiderbrain
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January 26, 2016, 11:07:59 AM |
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I'm not ignoring problems, but I'm not quite sure how to make the different developer groups hang out and come to a compromise instead of all making their own bitcoin clients (including those that remain in core). Any practical suggestions welcome! I think there is a lot of hyperbole on both sides at the moment, bitcoin isn't scaling well, but it's not broken, either.
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January 26, 2016, 11:37:52 AM |
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I doubt most of them even know what the problems are or what could be turned into one.However there is a softfork in sometime soon or at least the forum ad's say so,maybe it could take us to some new level ? until then,wait.
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January 26, 2016, 11:57:54 AM |
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Shuzan held out his short staff and said, "If you call this a short staff, you oppose its reality. If you do not call it a short staff, you ignore the fact. Now what do you wish to call this?"
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abs350
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January 26, 2016, 12:08:20 PM |
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Hey kwuk just admit you're talking shit
Bitcoin still works and thats a fact.
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January 26, 2016, 12:30:20 PM |
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your post looks like an attempt to spread FUD (fear , Uncertainty, and Doubt)
what problems are you talking about, you need to be specific. which problem is it that is going to kill bitcoin slowly?!!
since bitcoin is still in its early stages, it is bound to have many problems but they get fixed over time.
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