Part 3 – Much more on why clues suggest Peter Todd is probably Satoshi

[Gleb Gamow]

I'm going with Nick Szabo even though he denied.

I'm going with Marshall Long because of his fat stinkin' ass size he's yet to deny that he's Satoshi Nakamoto and some some other dude.

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[jonald_fyookball]

Here we go again I doubt we'll ever figure out the answer to this question.

Not quick, but simple.

Step 1.  Eliminate everyone who is not Satoshi. 

Step 2.  The person/person left is/are Satoshi.

I'll start:

Not Sylvester Stallone
 
Not any of my nieces or nephews (total 8 people).

Not Hashfastdoc

Not Mark Karpeles

Not John Riggins

Not Sarah Palin

That's 13 people eliminated.

If everyone on Facebook eliminated 13 unique people, we'd know who Satoshi is.

Not Leroy Fodor. That's 14. If everybody on the planet eliminated 1 unique person, the one left...

I'll go further and eliminate everybody born after January 1, 2000. That narrows it down considerably. Further, all women and dark-complected males.

Pretty sure its not Mickey Mouse, Lil Wayne, or Snookie.

 

[bill gator]

Theymos was ~18 when he he created the first block explorer, Peter Todd was 16 when he was discussing p2p payments with Hal Finny. I'm starting to believe that bitcoin was created by a gang of teenagers and just got out of hand in the process.

"Okay, hear me out! Here's the plan to take control of the world's money supply from them white banker dudes. First, we create this Japanese dude..."

This would be the best backstory for a rapper I've ever heard.
On a side note, Gleb, you crack me the hell up.

Edit: Not Scott Grimes, Not Patricia Sanders

[BlindMayorBitcorn]

Here we go again I doubt we'll ever figure out the answer to this question.

Not quick, but simple.

Step 1.  Eliminate everyone who is not Satoshi.  

Not Sylvester Stallone
 
Not any of my nieces or nephews (total 8 people).

Not Hashfastdoc

Not Mark Karpeles

Not John Riggins

Not Sarah Palin

Edit: Not Scott Grimes, Not Patricia Sanders

Not Leroy Fodor.

Pretty sure its not Mickey Mouse, Lil Wayne, or Snookie.

Not Bill Murray, William S. Burroughs, or Jared the Subway guy.

[stoat]

Why are you denying the obvious facts in front of your faces?

Satoshi Nakamoto is Nick Szabo.

Think about it, why would "Satoshi" reference Hal Finney and Wei Dai but not the main key player out of the three people Hal Nick and Wei?

Why would he not reference arguably the most important out of those three people?

It doesn't take Hercule Poirot to see that Satoshi is Nick Szabo.

[Mr Felt]

Maybe I'm wrong, maybe its this guy - he seems to claim to be Satoshi:

https://twitter.com/Eastfist

      

[CreativeCarol]

He definitely cannot be that at all. Satoshi is an old Japanese or Chinese man that enjoys his privacy. Respect his wishes please.

[Mr Felt]

This person claims to have authored the Bitcoin whitepaper in their Linkedin profile - also worked for "Leviathan Security Group" :


https://www.linkedin.com/in/intoverflow
http://imgur.com/a/93xOp

http://stackexchange.com/users/167136/tim-carstens
http://imgur.com/4ny53Nh

https://web.math.princeton.edu/~khwilson/toorcamp/group_intro.pdf (PPT titled Introduction to Groups and Elliptic Curves - co-Authored w/ a K Wilson of Princeton).

https://plus.google.com/113459451476066214383/posts

http://www.edsconf.com/2013-archive/
http://imgur.com/pDPf13v

[BellaBitBit]

When I think about who could be Satoshi I think it could be:

-person under 35
-super talented developer
-calm cool and collected
-still in public view around bitcoin but not claiming they are Satoshi
-not asian (name Satoshi used as distraction, makes people look for someone asian)

All these considered it could be Peter Todd. He fits all of the above. 

Whoever it is they have their reasons for remaining anon.

[Mr Felt]

When I think about who could be Satoshi I think it could be:

-person under 35
-super talented developer
-calm cool and collected
-still in public view around bitcoin but not claiming they are Satoshi
-not asian (name Satoshi used as distraction, makes people look for someone asian)

All these considered it could be Peter Todd. He fits all of the above. 

Whoever it is they have their reasons for remaining anon.

Yep.  I do think its person younger than previously thought - like PT.  Seems like it is the youngins' that often disrupt things in the tech world. The person linked to above, Tim, also fits the bill.

[Gleb Gamow]

This person claims to have authored the Bitcoin whitepaper in their Linkedin profile - also worked for "Leviathan Security Group" :


https://www.linkedin.com/in/intoverflow
http://imgur.com/a/93xOp

http://stackexchange.com/users/167136/tim-carstens
http://imgur.com/4ny53Nh

https://web.math.princeton.edu/~khwilson/toorcamp/group_intro.pdf (PPT titled Introduction to Groups and Elliptic Curves - co-Authored w/ a K Wilson of Princeton).

https://plus.google.com/113459451476066214383/posts

http://www.edsconf.com/2013-archive/
http://imgur.com/pDPf13v

The following, with apologies to your noble efferts: (at first, I thought this guy was Atlas)

https://intoverflow.wordpress.com/2008/10/05/recent-activities/
Jives with this: http://web.archive.org/web/20081225062810/http://intoverflow.wordpress.com/2008/10/05/recent-activities/

Recent activities

Everything is in full swing now at Utah. I’m very busy with lots of things that I like.

In algebraic geometry, we are using the notes of Milne to develop a theory of varieties in terms of the maximal spectrum of a ring. In parallel with this, I’ve been studying category theory with a friend, and translating everything that I can from my classes into that language as an exercise.

I’m participating in the GSBS seminar on game theory and evolutionary biology. So far it’s been a bunch of examples of first-order ODEs and some of their interesting behavior (chaos, bifurcations, etc), although I expect it will eventually get into something more interesting.

http://web.archive.org/web/20081224113659/http://intoverflow.wordpress.com/about/

About

My name is Tim, and I am an undergraduate math student in Seattle, Washington. I enjoy turtles, coffee, and cohomology (I mean, I enjoy it as much as the next guy, anyway). I’m not a serious researcher or anything, I just like to see how things work.  The long term plan is to go to graduate school to study some mixture of geometry and analysis.

In the past half decade I’ve worked at a startup, enjoyed two summers at Boeing studying artificial intelligence, and one summer working for Uncle Sam.

Here is what I look like on the Washington DC Metro:

[Mr Felt]

Publicly claiming to have authored the Bitcoin Whitepaper on your Linkedin Account has to be akin to claim you're Satoshi Nakamoto or a meaningful (and possibly rogue) part of a team of folks who used "Satoshi Nakamoto" as a collective pseudonym. After the Craig Wright thing, it seems odd that this would just be floating out there.  Can't make up my mind on this one.

[Gleb Gamow]

Publicly claiming to have authored the Bitcoin Whitepaper on your Linkedin Account has to be akin to claim you're Satoshi Nakamoto or a meaningful (and possibly rogue) part of a team of folks who used "Satoshi Nakamoto" as a collective pseudonym. After the Craig Wright thing, it seems odd that this would just be floating out there.  Can't make up my mind on this one.

The only logical conclusion I can come up with is that Tim has gone Full Wright. Basically, he just ended his career after putting in so many years of study.

[Mr Felt]

Possibly.  Not sure how long that linkedin page has existed with the authorship claim for the bitcoin whitepaper.

[Gleb Gamow]

Possibly.  Not sure how long that linkedin page has existed with the authorship claim for the bitcoin whitepaper.

Okay, I've figured it out. Tim has a strong humor side, like myself, putting up that he published SN's wp for humor purposes only, for anybody can see from his history on the Net that he's not capable of producing such work, let alone had the time while still attending school, with most his whereabouts then and now known.

[RodeoX]

Perhaps Satoshi went dark for the same reason Mohamed was buried in an unmarked grave. It is not the man that is important, it's the message.

[thejaytiesto]

Perhaps Satoshi went dark for the same reason Mohamed was buried in an unmarked grave. It is not the man that is important, it's the message.

I think satoshi went dark because he knew the consequences of developing something that would basically change the status quo in a awy that has never been challenged before. I mean we have seen developers getting their lives threatened, imagine being the actual creator that spawned the whole thing. It was the perfect scenario for him to put that seed out there and leave forever. The moment he comes back he will be an instant target for a lot of people (well he is now, but imagine if he made his persona public... it would be a mistake).

[Gleb Gamow]

Perhaps Satoshi went dark for the same reason Mohamed was buried in an unmarked grave. It is not the man that is important, it's the message.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tomb_of_the_Unknowns#Identification_of_the_Unknown

Identification of the Unknown

In 1994, Ted Sampley, a POW/MIA activist, determined that the remains of the Vietnam Unknown were likely those of Air Force 1st Lt. Michael Joseph Blassie, who was shot down near An Lộc, Vietnam, in 1972. Sampley published an article in his newsletter and contacted Blassie's family, who attempted to pursue the case with the Air Force's casualty office without result. In January 1998 CBS News broadcast a report based on Sampley's investigation which brought political pressure to support the identification of the remains. The body was exhumed on May 14, 1998. Based on mitochondrial DNA testing, Department of Defense scientists confirmed the remains were those of Blassie. The identification was announced on June 30, 1998, and on July 10, Blassie's remains arrived home to his family in St. Louis, Missouri; he was reinterred at Jefferson Barracks National Cemetery on July 11.

[Mr Felt]

Perhaps Satoshi went dark for the same reason Mohamed was buried in an unmarked grave. It is not the man that is important, it's the message.

It likely matters very little who Satoshi, S.A.W., is. However, being human, it is impossible not be inquisitive. Humans come hardwired to wonder where we came from and why we're here.  Likewise, its hard to not ask: who is Satoshi, what makes him/her/other/the team tick? None of the people who I think are Satoshi candidates are ordinary, they all seem wildly intelligent.

One thing I've noticed in my hunt is that Satoshi was very well read (this is a feather in the hat of those that think Szabo is Satoshi). There are a lot of publications about e-cash-like software from 2007 and 2008. For example, this paper - a working paper from the group that ultimately founded Ripple - is clearly on the cusp of Bitcoin (just a few months pre-bitcoin). http://opencoin.org/library/opencoin_chaum_report.pdf/view.   But it doesn't go far enough - it doesn't throw P-o-W into the mix.  You can see the mailing list going back to 2007 here: https://sourceforge.net/p/opencoin/mailman/opencoin-devel/. 

Satoshi spotted the PoW gap and borrowed a tool from Dr. Back to fill it.

Other interesting electronic currency papers reminiscent of Bitcoin from the time period in which Satoshi was writing:

www.cs.fiu.edu/~carbunar/upayments_techrep.pdf
https://cs.gmu.edu/~astavrou/research/Par_PET_2008.pdf
www-users.cs.umn.edu/~vkher/papers/2007_vkher_kyd.pdf
www.fang.ece.ufl.edu/mypaper/twc08lai.pdf
www.cse.nd.edu/~mblanton/papers/acns08.pdf
https://eprint.iacr.org/2007/148.pdf
digitalpiglet.org/research/sion2007cec.pdf

It would have been really fun to be writing in this field in 2007 to 2008. Satoshi must have read some of these.

One of the more interesting non-digital currency papers from the time period involves decentralization, might be instructive: http://localdemocracy.net/2008/01/01/authority-over-forests-negotiating-democratic-decentralization-in-senegal/

[Mr Felt]

I would consider this:

https://rft.osrfoundation.org/news.html (see "Method of Farfield 3D Scanning")

"[V]enturing into more complex ideas" (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2228.msg29479#msg29479).  

Think about the 3D Scanning project vis-a-vis DARPA's objectives as well as the 21.co - machine to machine transactions, controls, etc. I always liked the Szabo = Satoshi theory because I see Szabo as working on complex ideas geared to human survival, which involves space colonization (you'd need a new money, economy, nanotech, etc. for all that to work). Bitcoin is a great idea for a money to be used in colonies on Mars for example. Last year's musing on this issue, sorta: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1159614.msg12220026#msg12220026

EDIT - More

Like PT, Tim is also interested in time stamping:

https://github.com/tcarstens/verlang
fileadmin.cs.lth.se/cs/Personal/Amr_Ergawy/dist-algos-papers/4.pdf
http://christophermeiklejohn.com/coq/erlang/2013/11/04/verified-vector-clocks-an-experience-report-part-1.html
http://arxiv.org/abs/1406.4291 (paper cites his work)
Tim pumped about some citations to his work: https://twitter.com/intoverflow/status/614396035406782464